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Good Sunday morning to all of you helpful people............

the etch looks even better today than it did yesterday.........is that normal or just my imagination?

Just finished spraying on metal protector.........all over it.......not just the etch.

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Could you put the ?meteorite? outside in the sun and take some pics? see which angle shows patterns best. Can you see "thumbprints" (regmaglypts) anywhere around the whole meteorite?

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Here you go James R., just took these a few minutes ago..........

I put metal protector on the etched one and nothing on the other a little larger one........

They both came from the main mass that's still in the ground...........at one time they were side by side on the top of the mass, someone had knocked them loose probably with a pick.

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Hi All:

As you can all see in the photos, this meteorite is shocked pretty badly. Does the fact a meteorite may be shocked or not - figure into some type of a grading system? I know weathering can be a factor when grading stony meteorites and sometimes even irons. What about some type of grading system for the shock factor on irons?

Steve

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garimpo,

Wow, that is one weathered chunk of Iron/Nickel (FeNi)

As per the report that you received several years ago, the oxide layer showed 30.08 % O (oxide),

64.92 % Fe (Iron), and 5.01 % Ni (Nickel). The Metallic phase showed 93.52 % Iron (Fe) and 6.48% Nickel (Ni). :hmmmmmm:

The 1/2 ton chunk will give the chop saw a real workout.... :rofl2: ......chop, grind and polish with plenty of liquid or you risk getting very :sick0021: :pukes: :sick0026: .......All kidding aside, I personally would not cut any more than necessary for classification purposes. Leave the cutting, polishing and etching to the pro`s.

Wish you a whole bunch of luck with this project, a contract with the rancher would be just the ticket... :icon1:

Jim

Paleface you did such a good job of a break down, how would you compair the first report to this one, I'm pretty sure they are from the same fall.

Found 1992

Iron (IAB)

Four masses have been recovered: (1) 29 kg, (2) 25.2 kg, (3) 300 g, and (4) 18 kg, on the property of Mr. Wilson Rezende. Mass (1) was found by a cattleman in 1992, masses (2) and (3) were found in 1994 and 1999 respectively by Célio Rezende, and mass (4) by miners prospecting for gold in 2000. Classification (M. E. Zucolotto, MNRJ; J. Wasson UCLA): cohenite-schreibersite-rich iron. Bulk composition: Co = 0.46%, Ni = 6.43%, Ga = 89.6 ppm, As = 11.6 ppm, Ir = 3.36 ppm, Au = 1.46 ppm. The composition is indistinguishable from Campo del Cielo. Specimens: type specimen, mass (2), MNRJ, Brazil; main mass

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Good Sunday morning meteorite fans/collectors................here's pics of the 2nd "garimpeiro" meteorite. It weighs 2.105 kg (4.65lb)

I would like your input as to how I should have it cut,direction, thickness of piece's etc.

Thanks

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Got out today, no rain yet, and went to the meteorite ranch to talk to the owner............

three houses there..........two for workers and one for the owner.

Talked to one of the workers and it seems like the owner is in really bad health, heart problems, and has moved to the capitol, Goiania 250 miles away where his son also lives...........the son is now in charge of the ranch..........only met him once........not a very pleasant person.

A couple of weeks ago the son a four of the hired hand hooked a team of oxen to a cart and went up the mountain to where the big meteorite was still in the ground..............no more...........they dug it up and carted it away.............all 300kg+.........the people I talked to didn't know if it was sold or if they were just moving it, I think it was probably sold.

Now I'll have to wait and talk to the son about authorization for beeping.

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That news is the mother of all bummers, Garimpo. You should have heard Jill's moan when I read your post aloud to her. You would have thought a close relative died. I'm heading over to where I keep my Johnnie Walker Black Label for just such occasions.

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Micro Nugget since you and "Johnny" are already chilled out tell Jill to calm down a bit.

The removal or sale (whichever) is really not that bad a news for me, I couldn't afford to buy, transport it and have it cut, sanded and etched anyway.

300kg is a lot of rock to handle.

What I would like to do now is explore the area with my detector and see just how big the strownfield

is..........I suspect it's going to be big.

I even had the silly idea that maybe some collectors would like to pay the ranch owner on a per day basic to hunt for irons there and then pay him a certain price per gram for any irons they find........don't know if folks would be interested or not.

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sad news garimpo, still good luck beeping. What are our chances of getting the gps co-ords for the site, you mention before there was a very large crater in the vicinity of the metal parts? maybe once your done beeping?

alex

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Good morning all, yea alex suppose coords would be alright, don't think anyone is crazy enough to try it on their own..........(maybe not):

14°31.671"S, 048°45.485"W

That's where the big iron was located, just below it is a possible crater.

A German company was trying to sell the iron but their coords were .6 of a mile off course, probably on purpose.

Since we have really severe lightening storms here, I have a question for everyone since on top of that ridge where the iron was are several trees that look like they've been blow to bits, now here's my question: would a lot of iron meteorites in the ground attract lightening more than normal? :feedback:

Makes me wonder about up there all day waving around a Minelab lightening rod with a 12x24 "antenna".

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The lightning theory sounds plausable. It may have something behind it. How much higher up is the possible meteorite embedded hill from the surounding area? is it higher than the tree line?

Joe

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Joe, the meteorite WAS in a depression about the size of the average house in area and just below the rim............the trees that were blow to bits were just a few feet higher about two hundred yards from the iron........also where the trees are is where two more depressions are just like the one the meteorite was in.

Can't wait to get my detector up there.

Other new on a sad note Joe..............do you hear "taps" playing?.............in my returned mail today was the envelope that had Bill Southerns little piece of iron in it...........the key words here are: "returned" and "had"..........it seems like the mail sorting machine in Jamaica, NY like the iron, at least that's what the letter said.........any meteorite collectors work there?

Pics of the envelope below, notice the exit hole on the left side in the black area and how wrinkled the envelope is.

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Don,

When I wnet to the post office to get mine, when they told me it was returned. They asked me what was inside. They said all they could see with the XRay it was a small piece of iron. I told them it was a meteorite, they were pretty interested and wanted to know more, but I did not have much time to explain. Anyway they told me it was sent back, the wierd thing is that the postcard that was left at my house said it was the first attempt and said they would try and redeliver. Let me know if it is in the returned envelope when you get if back from me. Nect time I would put them ine a small metal ring box, this way they cant xray and see it is a meteorite. Also when filling out a customs slip never write that the contentes is a meteorite always say mineral sample. This may prevent theft in the PO.

Thanks,

Joe

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Hi Joe, yea had my doubts when the post office here said to put the pieces in a plastic envelop..........should have went with my instincts and used a box instead as I always have in the past.

When sending something from another country into the USA always put on the international declaration the object/subject as a (sterilized mineral sample), remember those three words or your shipment could be put into quarantine for several months.

In the past all I've ever shipped to the USA is gold nuggets with the proper declaration and haven't had any problems.

Don't worry Joe, more where that came from.

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Here is my latest Meteorite List message

Dear list,

on behalf of the owner from Brazil, who has no access to the list, I would like to inform those interested, that the 300kg main mass of the Uruacú meteorite is up for sale.

The negotiation basis is 20k $, shipping to the US is approx 1k $.

If seriuosly interested please ask for photos which I will gladly provide.

Thanks for the opportunity to post this, also in the name of the owner of the meteorite

Svend

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www.niger-meteorite-recon.de

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nice web site, hey i have a question- like garimpo's patch of meteorites, would other locations of known finds be likely to consist of a strewn fields, with more undiscovered rocks?

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Hi Alex, I guess anything is possible especially with meteorites but with one this big and with several pieces already found I think the possibility that it came down to earth and buried itself in the gravels only in one small area is small.

Someone with more knowledge than I have will have to answer your question about other falls.

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Alex,

Yea there is a pretty good chance that where there was one meteorite found there will likely be more. Meteorites rarely fall in just one mass, usually breaks up into a few pieces, sometimes hundreds or even thousands of fragments. Expecially irons.

Thanks,

Joe

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Since in the near future I'll be going back to the Uruacu meteorite fall and hopefully doing some beeping, would anybody here be interested in buying "whole" irons.

By whole I mean uncut, unmolested.

The reason for asking is if I send them to the USA for cutting, polishing and etching and pay the freight then the cost is going to be high..........so I was wondering if some people would rather have a whole meteorite than a piece of one?

If there's no interest then I'm not going to lug the heavy things down that mountain and through the jungle for nothing.

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Since in the near future I'll be going back to the Uruacu meteorite fall and hopefully doing some beeping, would anybody here be interested in buying "whole" irons.

By whole I mean uncut, unmolested.

The reason for asking is if I send them to the USA for cutting, polishing and etching and pay the freight then the cost is going to be high..........so I was wondering if some people would rather have a whole meteorite than a piece of one?

If there's no interest then I'm not going to lug the heavy things down that mountain and through the jungle for nothing.

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Don:

If you can find them- I'm sure you can get someone to buy them. It'll be much easier to sell the small pieces then the big masses like the 300kg that was found.

Steve

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Don,

I will buy a full individual. I will pay full shipping cost also. If you want I will still be willing to pay for the shipment that got returned if you want. I really want a piece, slice, frag, or individual of this meteorite. Haven't heard from you for a while, everything ok?

Happy Hunting,

Joe

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Joe and Steve, doing fine here................been busy trying to find gold sites on Google Earth............

going to get a list of the known sites withing 100 miles of here and then do some investigating with the GPS coords. ....

if possible I'm going to try to limit the size of "small" meteorites that I bring back to around 1kg and a max of 2kg...........

forget the cost of the "sample" Joe, that was my foolish mistake.........should have known better than to use the documents envelope instead of a box.............

of the three I mailed only one got through............could be that's the only Uruacu meteorite in the USA.

next month after the "eagle $hit$"(my check gets here) I'm going to send this 1kg that I've already cut the end off of, to Bobba Debt for cutting so..............

stand by for the "rest of the story"............I love Paul Harvey.

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