Jump to content
Nugget Shooter Forums

DRY WASHER question


WRANGLER

Recommended Posts

I really like the Keene 12 volt or hand driven puffer! Very nice and gets the flour gold too.

I'd have to look, but I think I even sell them, but haven't seen them in Lifstyles catalog lately...

Bill

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hi all, can anyone help a gringo? Wantig to buy a dry washer, but looking for one that is easy to operate, light, a puffer type. Any info will help.....Thanks, WRANGLER.

Wrangler,

I've been using the Keene puffer for 3 years now and it does one thing really well.....IT GETS THE GOLD. It run off a 12 volt battery or you can hand crank it. The only problem I have with it is the fact that it weighs about 38lbs. with the motor and all on it.

Bob

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I had a nice fold up job, used a honda 2hp engine (hard to get now for reasonable rates). it was a puffer made of wood and canvas.

wore it out and built another one, same setup.

wore it out and built a steel framed one and put it on wheels. has a 3 hp briggs i got from Jackssmallengines.com. I use a 1/2 belt and swamp cooler pulleys. not exactly light, but still manageable.

puffers are pro and con rigs, but I feel that I get better recovery using it. My grizzly is 3/4" raised expanded metal (as opposed to 1/2" flat that most commercial prefabs use).

The riffle tray uses double knit about 3 layers thick, and reverse bevel riffles to catch the goods.

The thing I don't like about the setup is that the engine in right near the top of the grizzly and gets dirt shovelled onto it sometimes. though I think next time I will buy an engine with gear reduction, as that should allow better speed control. With the setup now, it's a clumsy idle that runs slower or faster depending on gasoline, air filter dirt, and heat or ambient temp.

I can run 6 yards a day and not kill myself, but of you want to run light, get an echo blower and a fan box of aluminum. besides these put up and take down easy.

If you want to figure out tools, the normal round and sqaure point shovel, railroad pick (wood handle), gravel rake, and a few pry bars, maybe even a sledge.

next step up would be a rototiller, 3/16" or thicker tines. beef up the transmission housing before taking it to the rockpile. I welded some rebar on the tines to help pick the rocks, after seeing some dude in meadview with the setup. Maybe you can find a good old craftsman or poulan tiller, if not, look at the special order catalog of Ace hardware- DR has a good stout tiller for about $4bills.

Another investment would be a gasoline vacuum cleaner (you can buy one or make one out of an echo blower and a 5-gallon bucket). There are kits, but I just bought mine prefabbed, and boy howdy, did I get nuggets the first time out!

You want your dirt to just trickle off the drywasher, as that will be the most efficient. AND have an adjustable gate on your grizzly hopper. Some fan rigs like the Keene electrostatics work better without the metered feed- throw a shovel full in and the static and heat of the keene blower will do its magic. You shouldn't be working so much that you are pulling a Chaplin at the Machine Works shift. shovel a bit, let the rig work while you lean on the shovel or take an occasional swig of cold beer or something.

6 cubic yards of dirt may sound like a lot, but for every hour, you are spending about 20 minutes piling the dirt or swinging a pick and working your shovel; 20-30 minutes feeding your drywasher, ten minutes cleaning out your concentrates, and ten minutes resting or goofing off. In the 20-30 minutes of feeding the goat, you're running about 1/2 of a yard, so your work load is about 6-8 hours, all told.

If you set up a recirc rig, using cutiff 55gal barrels as the catch and silt rigs, you'll be running anywhere from 1/4 cy to 1/3 cy per hour, depending on the clay makeup or sand component. The advantage here is when you shut off the trash pump, you'll actually see the clean(ed) gold sitting right there in the box. The disadvantage being that you'll have to muck out the silt barrels and recharge them with clean(er) water. If you plan to set something up, plan on obtaining 6 barrels- 2 for the contraption and plumbing, and 4 for hauling recharge water.

If you are getting gold with your drywasher, think about running the tailings through a recirc as a lot of gold get caught up inside of dirt or clay clods, and aren't easily broken up enough to allow peak recovery with a drywasher. This is true if you run across some typical arizona red dirt that is full of gypsum. Wherever you swing a pick in it, the impact streaks will be white. This type of dirt is all over the desert placers of Arizona, though it seems to be most prevalent in Joshua Tree areas. Swinging a pick in it is like working into something made of rubber as it is darn resilient. My recirc has a hopper that will hold a milk crate, allowing me to shake and agitate the soil and rock mix, while drenching the works with water. Once I am satisfied that anything of value has dropped into the hopper and sluice, I just pick it up and pitch the remaining contents.

Gold mining will get you and keep you in shape. with most detectorists, the exercise isn't so much the problem as the stamina of continually swinging a head and concentrating on the sounds. I don't know of too many detectorists that have a buzz and still get thier target. drywashers on the other hand, problably need a buzz to keep going and working the mexican backhoe (shovel)

(no offense to any mexicans out there. I could imagine that Mexicans gave us the refined shovel. They gave us the cowboy hats and cowboy boots, spurs, and lariat, maybe even many cowboy song formats. The drywasher is a mexican invention, and the best gold pans used in the motherlode came from the mexicans too. Dowsing, while not a Mexican invention, was a tool used by the Spaniards to locate key gold, silver, and copper deposits in the New World. The Mexicans did develop the way to convert silver sulphide to Silver Chloride (without that knowledge, the Comstock Lode wouldn't have played such a pivotal role in the Civil War), and about 1/3 of mining terminology has Mexican roots. So who knows, maybe I am living high on the hog, and when i come back to the next life, I will be living the life of a mexican laborer. I am certainly broken in on a few of their tricks, not the least of which is how to properly use a shovel to feed a drywasher.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 4 weeks later...
Guest Wishbone-NM

Howdy UNLOKALBLOKE,

Somebody just has to step up and say "Thank you" for all the good information about drywashing. Took you a while there to get it all out and well worth the read B)

I'm primarily a "Nuggetshooter" but started out sluicing AND drywashing. I love it all and still find time to drywash! There's just something about drywashing that gets into the bloodstream. For my drywashing I love to use the old fashioned bellows hand crank type but use the constant air type when I need to move a lot of dirt to get gold.

Still there's nothing like the peace and quite of a puffer going "flop, flop, flop" early in the morning on a cold but clear winter's day :wub:

Wishbone-NM

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest Wishbone-NM

Howdy Wrangler,

There's a prospector by the name of "Russ Ford" that frequents these forums and he makes a type of puffer drywasher for sale. He has a web site too but I don't have the web address right off the top of my head :arrowheadsmiley:

I'm sure that Bill (Southern) will know and might jump in here if he reads this. Russ makes an old fashioned (and beautiful) bellows drywasher that was created by a gentleman named Harold Beck (now deceased) away back in the days of the "Great Depression" B) Mr. Beck always painted those beauties 'RED' and that was his trademark. They work great and Russ carries on the the tradition after buying Mr. Becks plans and the right to build them just as Mr. Beck did so many years ago.

Just found Russ's web site for you. Check it out :grin:

www.russford.com

Wishbone-NM

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Howdy Wrangler,

There's a prospector by the name of "Russ Ford" that frequents these forums and he makes a type of puffer drywasher for sale. He has a web site too but I don't have the web address right off the top of my head :arrowheadsmiley:

I'm sure that Bill (Southern) will know and might jump in here if he reads this. Russ makes an old fashioned (and beautiful) bellows drywasher that was created by a gentleman named Harold Beck (now deceased) away back in the days of the "Great Depression" B) Mr. Beck always painted those beauties 'RED' and that was his trademark. They work great and Russ carries on the the tradition after buying Mr. Becks plans and the right to build them just as Mr. Beck did so many years ago.

Just found Russ's web site for you. Check it out :grin:

www.russford.com

Wishbone-NM

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Good link wishbone-NM

I've used the Beck Dry Washer for years - and glad to hear that Russ Ford will continue a good thing

I also just bought this combo unit because it smaller --and also works very well

http://www.azdesertgold.com/ ...........buzztail

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...
Thanks but I'm wanting a puffer..

Wrangler,

If you haven't got a drywasher yet, check our this item on ebay

New handmade folding drywasher Item number: 300032107084

29older yet

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hey Wrangler not trying to knock the guy on eBay at all but you can get the plans for that puffer over at Bill & Linda's Prospecting Page click here

I am putting one together right now for fun, I'm hoping to go visit 29 Prospector at his place someday.

Sounds like that would be a good place to see how well it works.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hey Wrangler not trying to knock the guy on eBay at all but you can get the plans for that puffer over at Bill & Linda's Prospecting Page click here

I am putting one together right now for fun, I'm hoping to go visit 29 Prospector at his place someday.

Sounds like that would be a good place to see how well it works.

come on over, just let me know so I can be ready too.

29

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

Wahoo! :ROFL:

I see that there are a couple of guys who own dry washers from azdesert. I bought one a couple of months ago and started to do some dry washing out in the Gold Basin area. Got a transfer at work and ended up not having the time to use it. I am bringing it out to the outing on the 20th and hope someone can give me some tips.

I prefer my Lobo Super Traq but if i gotta dig then what the heck.

Aloha,

Kaimi aka Stan

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Wahoo! :ROFL:

I see that there are a couple of guys who own dry washers from azdesert. I bought one a couple of months ago and started to do some dry washing out in the Gold Basin area. Got a transfer at work and ended up not having the time to use it. I am bringing it out to the outing on the 20th and hope someone can give me some tips.

I prefer my Lobo Super Traq but if i gotta dig then what the heck.

Aloha,

Kaimi aka Stan

Kaimi,

I hope to get there around noon Friday. Look me up and I'll help if I can. I've got a red Toyota with a tent trailer.

Bob

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Will do 29!

I should be getting out there a little earlier, I hope. Cant miss me in my 92 blue jeep wrangler w/ black hardtop.

I have been told that my shade of blue can be seen for miles out in the desert.

Looking forward to figuring out my dry washer once and for all. :ROFL:

Aloha,

Kaimi aka Stan B)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I am gonna try to make it out to gold basin early friday, I will be happy to share what limited knowledge I have of drywashing and point you where I have found gold...both of you :ROFL:

Now I ain't got no magic finger like 'ol John B but I have found a little gold out there.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Mahalo AZ for the heads up! :ROFL:

Looking forward to all the help I can get.

Aloha,

Kaimi aka Stan B)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I got a little demo of the keene puffer on my pagehttp://www.myspace.com/amune138

i can barley keep up with it by myself!!!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

AZdigger,

Buddy, we were hoping that you would join us. I know you sold the drywasher, but how about the gold buddy? I figured we would all dig and drywash while you ran the cons? :hahaha: :hahaha:

Bob :ROFL:

Kaimi,

I will be more tan happy to help. I'm bringing my little keene puffer don't want to work to hard :hahaha: :hahaha:

Bob :ROFL::miner::ROFL:

Lord Gold,

Your right that little puffer will wear one man out. :ROFL::ROFL: I like that little guy, anyway I just bought a 151 keene, now thats a production machine. I can keep 5 busy all day. :*&$*(: :*&$*(:

:hahaha: :miner: 29er :miner: :hahaha: :ROFL::ROFL:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

I've looked at many drywashers over the years but have not heard of this one. My father had a Beck and a Jack Douglas both wood puffers and heavy.

I use a Keene Puffer and it weighs between 30-38 pounds, depending on hand crank or 12v motor.

I also have a Keene 151 and I like both. They get the fine as well as the bigger pieces.

Feel free to ask me anything about drywashing and I will try to help.

Bob :ROFL::miner::ROFL::ROFL:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 6 years later...

WOW Reuben !!!! you picked a pretty old post to tap into.
You may have been better off starting a new one.
29 Prospector Bob Duncan has passed away on us quite awhile back. Brings back good memories of him.
As far as your questions try a new post and the very best you could hope for is that someone will offer to meet up with you so you can get some hands on experience.
Right now its most likely WET from the rain the past couple days so actually drywashin is out of the question.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...