Ordinary rock Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Curious as to what this may be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GotAU? Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) Its a brown rock… Sorry, but that’s all one can tell from your photos. We need a size scale - photograph of it near a known object like a coin, and more clues like did you see if it is magnetic and did you do a streak test? Use unglazed white tile or the underside of the toilet tank lid to do a streak test. Just rub the rock on it in a line and look at the color. I think it might be a form of iron called Hematite, which leaves a red-brown streak, or magnetite, which leaves a gray-black streak. Edited July 27, 2021 by GotAU? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shokmelt Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 It is always difficult to say for sure when you are just looking at photos, especially in the absence of various testing results information, but I think that might very well be a meteorite. It's a good find for sure. You should polish that window that you opened through a few grades of sandpaper until you have a good flat and smooth surface, and then post some pictures of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordinary rock Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 14 hours ago, Shokmelt said: It is always difficult to say for sure when you are just looking at photos, especially in the absence of various testing results information, but I think that might very well be a meteorite. It's a good find for sure. You should polish that window that you opened through a few grades of sandpaper until you have a good flat and smooth surface, and then post some pictures of that. It has a kinda purplish streak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordinary rock Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 I know those pics suck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GotAU? Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Magnetic? (See if it sticks to a magnet but also see if it attracts iron like a small staple) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GotAU? Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 I think it is Hematite - type of iron ore. Indigenous people and artists break it up to make ochre, a reddish brown pigment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 If the streak is black..chances are it's magnetite. If the streak is reddish brown..chances are it's hematite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shokmelt Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 What we really need for this one is some better pics. Try taking some pics outdoors in bright sunlight and or in "open shade"(like in the side shadow of a building or a car-as opposed to under a tree or a canopy). It would also be helpful to have a series of photos of the non-flat (top side) from 3 or 4 different rotated angles. And how it responds to a magnet would be very helpful too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordinary rock Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, Shokmelt said: What we really need for this one is some better pics. Try taking some pics outdoors in bright sunlight and or in "open shade"(like in the side shadow of a building or a car-as opposed to under a tree or a canopy). It would also be helpful to have a series of photos of the non-flat (top side) from 3 or 4 different rotated angles. And how it responds to a magnet would be very helpful too. I'm sorry I forgot to tell you it was magnetic I don't think sometimes I'll get you some more picks. I'm sure with my luck it's nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordinary rock Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 I've done alot of streak tests but this one in particular was different from others because of the purple color. I guess maybe that makes it red? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobAK Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 I agree with the guys that think hematite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shokmelt Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 23 minutes ago, Ordinary rock said: I've done alot of streak tests but this one in particular was different from others because of the purple color. I guess maybe that makes it red? It looks reddish in the streak test pic. I was going by your assertion that it looks purple, as cameras don't always render true color well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedrock Bob Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Ordinary rock said: I've done alot of streak tests but this one in particular was different from others because of the purple color. I guess maybe that makes it red? Yes. A "red" streak is any hue of red from light pink to dark chocolate. A "grey" streak is from light grey to coal black. "Purple" is a hue of red. Remember that rocks are combinations of minerals. They will give you the streak color of any minerals that touch the streak plate. So a single mineral will yield a true color. A rock may reveal a combination of colors depending on the minerals it is comprised of. No matter what color you perceive the streak to be, if it leaves a streak it is not a meteorite. If it is magnetic and leaves a streak It is an oxidized terrestrial iron. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shokmelt Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 I mostly agree with that, Bob. The streak test is more about identifying minerals, rather than rocks. That being said, the ubiquitous nature of mineralized iron does make it a useful test. I would just not want for someone to cast away some rare, here-to-fore unknown achondrite based "solely" on the fact that it failed a streak test. I'm also not implying that I think that's what this is. I'm jus' say'n'. CAUTION: The above is not intended to provide false hope to all of those out there who are clinging to some delusional belief that they have a Martian sedimentary rock. However, it is also not intended to encourage disbelief in the possibility of the existence of Martian sedimentary rock meteorites. On a side note: I do recall that back in the 1970's there was a popular streak test for rocks. A positive test would often produce loud and shrill shrieking sounds, and leave behind some blush color. I think it was intended to indicate some brass content in the rocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordinary rock Posted August 3, 2021 Author Share Posted August 3, 2021 On 7/30/2021 at 11:10 PM, Shokmelt said: I mostly agree with that, Bob. The streak test is more about identifying minerals, rather than rocks. That being said, the ubiquitous nature of mineralized iron does make it a useful test. I would just not want for someone to cast away some rare, here-to-fore unknown achondrite based "solely" on the fact that it failed a streak test. I'm also not implying that I think that's what this is. I'm jus' say'n'. CAUTION: The above is not intended to provide false hope to all of those out there who are clinging to some delusional belief that they have a Martian sedimentary rock. However, it is also not intended to encourage disbelief in the possibility of the existence of Martian sedimentary rock meteorites. On a side note: I do recall that back in the 1970's there was a popular streak test for rocks. A positive test would often produce loud and shrill shrieking sounds, and leave behind some blush color. I think it was intended to indicate some brass content in the rocks. Picture saturation. Hope that's some better pictures, it's out side in the light only the darn light makes it where I can't see the screen to observe the quality of said photographs, but whatevs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shokmelt Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Thank you, Ordinary rock. These are much better pictures. I appreciate the follow up. Honestly, I was really expecting that better pics of the top side and the window would lead to disappointment. On the contrary, I can see some surface features that are very encouraging. I still think that it's a very good candidate. Although if it is actually a meteorite, it might be one that would require an oxygen isotope test to produce reasonably convincing evidence of that. I think it would be worth it to have an expert look at it in person. At any rate, I would take care of that little guy, and maybe go look for some more like it where you found that one if possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordinary rock Posted August 4, 2021 Author Share Posted August 4, 2021 I actually have found a few around the samish size and I kept it because my sister bought me one one time that had the same looking interior. I thought maybe she got a fake one because it didn't have the pattern in it but I guess it was the wrong type because it ended up being real. Well that's good news or not bad news. I have a question about testing. I have previously used meteoriteLab.com said to be the new england meteoritical society. Does anybody know anything about them? Are they legit or just pocketing funds because they make it seem official when they send one back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 40 minutes ago, Ordinary rock said: I have a question about testing. I have previously used meteoriteLab.com said to be the new england meteoritical society. Does anybody know anything about them? Are they legit or just pocketing funds because they make it seem official when they send one back. They've been around for many years and are 100% legitimate, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordinary rock Posted August 5, 2021 Author Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/4/2021 at 10:57 AM, Morlock said: They've been around for many years and are 100% legitimate, Cool. Thanks will send it to em and see what they say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordinary rock Posted August 17, 2021 Author Share Posted August 17, 2021 Ok so I finally got time to go pick up a few more and find some of my other ones that look like this one so here are some pics. They are not the best since I didn't have any daylight to photograph them in so here's my best. Maybe this will help decide if it's not one. And they maybe different all together, hell, I'm pretty dense so it's definitely a possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedrock Bob Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 It's hematite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardtimehermit Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Not a meteorite, keep up the hunt. ht Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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