middleforkminer2 345 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 I got the “Moderna” shot #1 this past Saturday and the first day, I halfway thought I might have been injected with a placebo because I had no reaction...not even injection site soreness....yesterday, I woke up and the injection site was a little sore...not bad, but I could definitely tell that I’d gotten a shot. Last night, I slept a full 9 hrs. and the funny thing is, I think I’m seeing some unexpected beneficial side effects....chest congestion from COPD seems significantly better, my alertness sharper and a funny sense of subdued well being.... I know that the vaccine doesn’t start working right off the bat and I honestly don’t think what I’m currently experiencing is psychological....I’ll keep y’all posted but am wondering if anybody else has had a similar experience??? 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Bedrock Bob 4,180 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 The second shot will cause a lot more reaction. I have not had one yet but everyone I know that has received a second shot has been sick, feverish, aches and pains, runny nose etc. for a day or two after. My elderly parents felt nothing at all. But everyone in the younger bunch says it is pretty rough after the second dose for a short period. Im hoping to get a chance at one soon. Here in New Mexico they are only allowing first responders, elderly and high risk to receive vaccines. All the shots are controlled by the State. 30 miles away in Texas just about anyone can get one if they compete for it. You have to know where shots are available and be there early to stand in line. There are no guarantees you can get one and many people try for days before they get one. And then the second dose is no guarantee either. It is basically a free for all and a lot of people wont be able to get the second dose on time or maybe not at all. They say the single dose J&J vaccine will be offered soon. If people are going to have to compete for vaccine with no guarantee of a second dose this is probably worth waiting for. It will be at least another 5-6 weeks before I could get either vaccine without traveling out of state. But im not too worried as both my elderly parents and my daughter in law are all fully vaccinated. My son and I are the only ones that have not been able to get one yet. We are both really careful and double masking and figure we can hold out a long as it takes. Link to post Share on other sites
middleforkminer2 345 Posted February 15 Author Share Posted February 15 Yeah, I get a little angry about the lack of planning and inconsistency of priority of getting vaccinated....I’m 69 so I qualified in my COUNTY, but in a couple of neighboring counties, the supposed age minimum for us old folks is 70......the funny thing is, is that I got the shot at a Rite-Aid in Stanislaus county and I live in Tuolumne County...I registered for the shot on a Rite Aid web site that was linked to a state web site that was a redirect from our county health department web site..... another thing that puzzles me is how I feel today... I haven’t felt this good in years and from my understanding of how this vaccine works, there’s no way that how I’m feeling could possibly be related to getting this shot other than psychological.... 3 Link to post Share on other sites
middleforkminer2 345 Posted February 15 Author Share Posted February 15 FWIW, There was no line inside the drug store....it was by appointment only and the appointments were spaced 1/2 hr. apart.... Link to post Share on other sites
grubstake 679 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 I got mine first one at the Fresno Va, no side effects, I get my second one on the 5th, My wife got hers in Merced at the Mercy hospital, No side effects either, we are both heart patients and both have diabetes, she gets her second shot on the 10th. and we are both 72 years young. Grubstake 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Stillweaver hillbelli 346 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 I will not be taking any Experimental Biologic Agents. Link to post Share on other sites
Morlock 1,763 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 38 minutes ago, Stillweaver hillbelli said: I will not be taking any Experimental Biologic Agents. Afraid of needles? Link to post Share on other sites
Stillweaver hillbelli 346 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 (edited) When I give blood I watch when the needle goes in. I have no faith in pharmaceutical industry and am not afraid of a little Kung flu. Edited February 15 by Stillweaver hillbelli Link to post Share on other sites
Bedrock Bob 4,180 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 4 hours ago, grubstake said: I got mine first one at the Fresno Va, no side effects, I get my second one on the 5th, My wife got hers in Merced at the Mercy hospital, No side effects either, we are both heart patients and both have diabetes, she gets her second shot on the 10th. and we are both 72 years young. Grubstake I took my mom on Saturday morning. She is 93. My 96 year old stepfather got his second shot last week. I think older folks don't have much trouble with the vaccine. They say the stronger your immune system the stronger your reaction to that second shot. People in their 20's and 30's are feeling lots of side effects but older people don't seem to have much trouble with it. I have known several people who have had covid and it is no joke. Most folks hardly even knew they were sick. But a couple people died from it and a half dozen got sick bad. My sister in law was on oxygen for a week and has severely damaged lungs. A good buddy of mine lost his 30 year old grandson last month to covid. He was a combat vet and a police officer in Houston. He felt sick one evening and died the next day. It's like rolling the dice. It seems about one person in five get real sick and the rest get over it in a week or don't even notice they are sick. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
grubstake 679 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Before i went to Vietnam, my company lined up and we went through a gontlet, shots with an air injector in both arms, I think we got around 6 shots all on the same day, for different thing, Never hurt me a bit! Grubstake 5 Link to post Share on other sites
DarkSilicate 24 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 "shots with an air injector in both arms" Man that brings back memories. I remember looking at my left shoulder as I walked away from those shots and seeing some of it coming back out. All those shots didn't keep me from getting dysentery as soon as I got over there. : ( 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Stillweaver hillbelli 346 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 19 minutes ago, DarkSilicate said: All those shots didn't keep me from getting dysentery as soon as I got over there. : ( Access to clean water and soap helps. I dont imagine there was much of that in the jungle. I think that and cholera were the greatest causes of death during the great Western migration along the Oregon trail. . Link to post Share on other sites
DarkSilicate 24 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 I was on a base so we did have clean water and soap, however, the people washing the vegetables in the chow hall must have skipped the clean water part. I think there was around 30 of us new to the base that all got sick the first week in country. Not a good memory. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Stillweaver hillbelli 346 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) 15 hours ago, grubstake said: I think we got around 6 shots all on the same day, Sounds like one of the days of Marine bootcamp, for me, in '86. Then, before going over to Camp Foster in '88, there were several, if I recall correctly. A bunch before that under the parents Kaiser plan, that every kid growing up in the 60's would go through at that time, as required by the DOE AMA, and local school boards. I had the Chicken pox ,Mumps infections, though, and came out fine. Every little cut or injury, I'd be carted off to the hospital for a Tetanus shot, or the booster shot. '88 was the last vaccine shots I received. Edited February 16 by Stillweaver hillbelli Link to post Share on other sites
Stillweaver hillbelli 346 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) 12 hours ago, DarkSilicate said: ... the people washing the vegetables in the chow hall must have skipped the clean water part. ... Or someone sick in the scullery , low or fluctuating pressures in the water supply piping to the kitchen and scullery. ,or heads. Back in the day , laudnum was not a rare medicine for folks to use when afflicted with dysentary. Did you just gut it out and it went away or, got a big dose of antibiotic / penicillin in your 6? One of those, I remember , maybe 25 yrs back hurt more than the cat that bit me on the knuckle, to the bone. I went out of the hospital with bad limp. That intramuscular antibiotic hurt like < (me screaming). That cat bite was no joke, as the knuckle started swelling quickly, as well as my hand, just not so fast, sort of a spreading heat. The AB in the 6 stopped all that. Hazard pay should be required for bathing a cat. Edited February 16 by Stillweaver hillbelli Link to post Share on other sites
Bedrock Bob 4,180 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 19 minutes ago, Stillweaver hillbelli said: Sounds like one of the days of Marine bootcamp, for me, in '86. Then, before going over to Camp Foster in '88, there were several, if I recall correctly. A bunch afore that under the parents Kaiser plan, that every kid growing up in the 60's would go through, Polio,TB ,and whatever req'd at that time by the DOE and AMA. I had the Chicken pox ,Mumps infections, and came out fine. Every little cut or injury, I'd be carted off to the hospital for a Tetanus shot, or the booster shot. '88 was the last vaccine shots I received. I suspected that childhood trauma was the cause of your problems. It is wonderful that you feel comfortable enough to share this with the group. I'm sure it was difficult to have parents with a health plan and access to vaccinations. I couldn't imagine the horror you went through growing up in an environment like that. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Stillweaver hillbelli 346 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 20 minutes ago, Bedrock Bob said: I suspected that childhood trauma was the cause of your problems. It is wonderful that you feel comfortable enough to share this with the group. I'm sure it was difficult to have parents with a health plan and access to vaccinations. I couldn't imagine the horror you went through growing up in an environment like that. You misread me ,your Proterozoicness . We're sharing about shots, aren't we? Where is the horror ? Link to post Share on other sites
Bedrock Bob 4,180 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 54 minutes ago, Stillweaver hillbelli said: Where is the horror ? Evidentally with vaccines. Link to post Share on other sites
Stillweaver hillbelli 346 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) I don't see the need in my case, bob, to take THIS experimental biologic agent. The vaccines from '88 and before were taken, willingly. Not much bothered by cold or flu. Edited February 16 by Stillweaver hillbelli Link to post Share on other sites
Bedrock Bob 4,180 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 53 minutes ago, Stillweaver hillbelli said: I don't see the need in my case, bob, to take THIS experimental biologic agent. The vaccines from '88 and before were taken, willingly. Not much bothered by cold or flu. It is not uncommon for childhood trauma to manifest itself later in life. This would explain why you began having these feelings in the late 80's. We all have fears and insecurities my friend. To be able to express yours here on this forum is a huge step toward recovery. It must have been very difficult for you. I'm sure your story will help other forum members who have similar problems with vaccinations. Good luck my friend. And God bless. Link to post Share on other sites
Stillweaver hillbelli 346 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 The only feelings I have are that I don't need a shot in my arm everytime a new boogey man is trotted out. I don' t fault those that do. Some have said that the "vaccine" doesn't meet the technical definition. As such, the phrase, experimental biologic agent, comes to mind. Link to post Share on other sites
Stillweaver hillbelli 346 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 9 minutes ago, Bedrock Bob said: Good luck my friend. And God bless. And to you Link to post Share on other sites
Bedrock Bob 4,180 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 36 minutes ago, Stillweaver hillbelli said: The only feelings I have are that I don't need a shot in my arm everytime a new boogey man is trotted out. I don' t fault those that do. Some have said that the "vaccine" doesn't meet the technical definition. As such, the phrase, experimental biologic agent, comes to mind. You don't need to justify your decisions to us. You have made it clear you are not getting the vaccine and that is just groovy. We will accept you with all your flaws and fears. We are after all just humans. Is there anything else you need to get off your chest about vaccines? We're here to listen if you feel the need to expound. Link to post Share on other sites
Stillweaver hillbelli 346 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Thanks, bob. Your concern for my well being is heartening . Your opinion that it is a problem to have a healthy cynical skepticism toward big Pharma makes me want to return the favor. Link to post Share on other sites
middleforkminer2 345 Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 18 hours ago, Stillweaver hillbelli said: The only feelings I have are that I don't need a shot in my arm everytime a new boogey man is trotted out. I don' t fault those that do. Some have said that the "vaccine" doesn't meet the technical definition. As such, the phrase, experimental biologic agent, comes to mind. Actually, I’m pretty sure it does meet the technical definition....the only difference is that instead of using a dead virus, only a piece of “spike protein” from the corona part of the virus is used... that’s a dumbed down explanation, but it’s what the mRNA vaccines do and even though the technology is considered new, it’s been used in other vaccines....everybody has the freedom of choice as far as I’m concerned. No way I’d fault someone for not thinking the way I do..... 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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