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It was just pointed out that the GPAA didn't renew 4 claims at Gold Basin. 
Quote: "The annual BLM fees on those 4 claims were $5,280. I'm not privy to the GPAA reasons but I imagine that has something to do with it."

Question for royalty proponents:
How much of a royalty do you suppose would be fair after paying all those BLM fees? 

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Personally, I'd like it if the government quit raising taxes, quit dreaming of ways -- like this royalties scheme -- to milk more money out of Americans and cut about 1/2 of the bureaucrats out of gov

As we speak there is a mining company that has done just about everything wrong they can out here in Nevada, between Eureka and Ely  off of hwy.50 First they destroyed miles of historic hwy. 40 by hau

They pay royalties to extract oil. Why not minerals?  They pay royalties to the State. To private owners. Why not to the people? Public Land belongs to the people. Corporations who intend to

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1 hour ago, Dakota Slim said:

It was just pointed out that the GPAA didn't renew 4 claims at Gold Basin. 
Quote: "The annual BLM fees on those 4 claims were $5,280. I'm not privy to the GPAA reasons but I imagine that has something to do with it."

Question for royalty proponents:
How much of a royalty do you suppose would be fair after paying all those BLM fees? 

None. There is no producing mine so royalties would not be appropriate. 

At no time has anyone suggested that claim holders, weekenders or prospectors be subject to royalties.

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42 minutes ago, Bedrock Bob said:

None. There is no producing mine so royalties would not be appropriate. 

At no time has anyone suggested that claim holders, weekenders or prospectors be subject to royalties.

Ahem....

Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), Tom Udall (D-N.M.), Martin Heinrich (D-N.M.), Michael Bennet (D-Colo.), Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), Jeffrey Merkley (D-Ore.), Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), Cory Booker (D-N.J.) and Edward Markey (D-Mass.) wrote to the Energy and Natural Resources Committee leadership requesting a hearing on the Hardrock Mining and Reclamation Act to provide a forum for states, environmental groups, and industry to discuss mining reform.

"The bill requires companies to pay royalties for the first time for the ability to extract mineral resources like gold, silver, and copper from public lands..."

Read on! https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=E0A06230-3193-419F-85C1-EBA20D0059C0

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21 hours ago, Bedrock Bob said:

It looks like the Pebble Mine won't be paying royalties any time soon...

https://www.npr.org/2020/11/25/939010891/army-corps-of-engineers-denies-permit-to-controversial-alaska-gold-mine

 

Like all mining companies, they are paying claim fees. They also have employees who pay income taxes, property taxes and local and state sales taxes. The whole point of this thread is that some, including those proposing these royalties, think taking money away from one person and giving it to another (redistributing wealth) and creating layer upon layer of bureaucracy is how the US government should operate. 
Others think cutting taxes and regulations help businesses grow, innovate and create private sector jobs. 

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Its ok, we will all be jobless soon! Then the whats "mine is yours and whats yours is yours" will kick in, then ill just go on a huge hunting and prospecting trip. It will all be paid for right??? We will ALL be taken care of haha, there is nothing to worry about. Heck maybe i want royalties now too!! Why not take something that I didn't work for?

Happy Thanksgiving All!! Be safe out there.

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9 hours ago, Bedrock Bob said:

Slim,

I think you are completely unaware of what "some" want or why they want it.

I want my royalties.

 

Thanks Bob You just proved my point. Nothing is yours. You simply want a piece of someone else's pie, and you want to hire some bureaucrats to go get it for you. 
Nobody is asking for a cut of the wild game you take off public property. Nobody wants a piece of the bottles or cactuses you have collected and nobody has insisted that you go clean up the broken pieces of glass from the bottles you shot up out there in the NM outback although I think that would be a good idea. 

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11 hours ago, nugget108 said:

Its ok, we will all be jobless soon!

Did the demand for mined metals just evaporate?  Why would your job be in jeopardy?

The one of the most fundamental aspects of business is supply and demand.  If there is demand, someone will supply it.

I just find it hard to believe that those at the very top (1%) would just close up shop if their profit margins were taxed by a few percent.  All the other extraction industries pay something and they remain in business and profitable.

 

11 hours ago, nugget108 said:

Why not take something that I didn't work for?

Your company takes something that doesn't belong to it.

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1 hour ago, LukeJ said:

Did the demand for mined metals just evaporate?  Why would your job be in jeopardy?

The one of the most fundamental aspects of business is supply and demand.  If there is demand, someone will supply it.

I just find it hard to believe that those at the very top (1%) would just close up shop if their profit margins were taxed by a few percent.  All the other extraction industries pay something and they remain in business and profitable.

 

Your company takes something that doesn't belong to it.

Funny Luke, according to your past comments, your company or "trade" buys what my company "takes"!! Kind of ironic huh?

And my top portion of my comment was directed towards the new SOCIALIST type programs we are about to enter into here in the next few weeks. Make you a deal Luke, ill send you a picture of my unemployment check if you send me a picture of yours!!!! 

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46 minutes ago, nugget108 said:

Funny Luke, according to your past comments, your company or "trade" buys what my company "takes"!! Kind of ironic huh?

And my top portion of my comment was directed towards the new SOCIALIST type programs we are about to enter into here in the next few weeks. Make you a deal Luke, ill send you a picture of my unemployment check if you send me a picture of yours!!!! 

What is a "socialist type" program?

Like roads? Police? Fire Department? Social Security? Water and sewage?

What "socialist type" programs are you speaking about that will cause someone to be unemployed?

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1 hour ago, nugget108 said:

Funny Luke, according to your past comments, your company or "trade" buys what my company "takes"!! Kind of ironic huh?

And my top portion of my comment was directed towards the new SOCIALIST type programs we are about to enter into here in the next few weeks. Make you a deal Luke, ill send you a picture of my unemployment check if you send me a picture of yours!!!! 

Why all the negativity Dan?  You seem so sure you know what you're talking about.  Stop believing all the rhetoric designed to keep you in fear.

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1 hour ago, Bedrock Bob said:

What is a "socialist type" program?

Like roads? Police? Fire Department? Social Security? Water and sewage?

What "socialist type" programs are you speaking about that will cause someone to be unemployed?

Don't forget Medicare and VA benefits.

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2 hours ago, nugget108 said:

Funny Luke, according to your past comments, your company or "trade" buys what my company "takes"!! Kind of ironic huh?

So what's worse, dealing in stolen goods or buying stolen goods?  :inocent:

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