Jadee 20 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Hello all This meteorite just arrived the other day that I won on ebay. I had to take pictures of this indoors because it was a cloudy day so I am going to retake the pictures tomorrow in morning sunlight from all angles. However one decent picture came out: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GotAU? 105 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 (edited) Congrats! I commend and share your enthusiasm for wanting to collect meteorites, they certainly are amazing. Can you share a link to the original EBay sale and/or to the seller? Just curious to see their other meteorites. Also check out all the meteorite references here to learn more about them, lots of good stuff here for beginners like you and me! Edited August 16, 2020 by GotAU? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jadee 20 Posted August 17, 2020 Author Share Posted August 17, 2020 Yes the seller's link is: https://www.ebay.com/usr/scirocco-fossil-trade?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2754 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jadee 20 Posted August 17, 2020 Author Share Posted August 17, 2020 Here are the better pictures I took this morning. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
billpeters 389 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Jadee, I am skeptical. A lot of scirocco's 382 posts look like meteor-wrongs. There are no meteorites designated with a B9 prefix. His numbers have no recognized meaning. I would take your rock and turn over the back of a porcelain toilet tank top and scratch your rock enough to leave a streak. It won't hurt the value of your rock in the least. If it leaves a dark grey , black or red streak it is NOT a meteorite, but probably contains magnetite. Check it for being magnetic. If it has a moderately strong pull it probably is NOT a meteorite. Let us know the results. billpeters 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Morlock 1,722 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 7 hours ago, billpeters said: Jadee, I am skeptical. A lot of scirocco's 382 posts look like meteor-wrongs. There are no meteorites designated with a B9 prefix. His numbers have no recognized meaning. I would take your rock and turn over the back of a porcelain toilet tank top and scratch your rock enough to leave a streak. It won't hurt the value of your rock in the least. If it leaves a dark grey , black or red streak it is NOT a meteorite, but probably contains magnetite. Check it for being magnetic. If it has a moderately strong pull it probably is NOT a meteorite. Let us know the results. billpeters I agree. it looks like a lot of his so called meteorites listed on eBay are meteorwrongs. The B9 designation is nothing but a personal way to identify his listings and has nothing to do with meteorites. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GotAU? 105 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, billpeters said: Jadee, I am skeptical. A lot of scirocco's 382 posts look like meteor-wrongs. There are no meteorites designated with a B9 prefix. His numbers have no recognized meaning. I would take your rock and turn over the back of a porcelain toilet tank top and scratch your rock enough to leave a streak. It won't hurt the value of your rock in the least. If it leaves a dark grey , black or red streak it is NOT a meteorite, but probably contains magnetite. Check it for being magnetic. If it has a moderately strong pull it probably is NOT a meteorite. Let us know the results. billpeters I was curious about that too, and am still learning about identifying and knowing the differences between meteorites and meteorwrongs. Hence I wanted to see the seller’s inventory... Edited August 17, 2020 by GotAU? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jadee 20 Posted August 18, 2020 Author Share Posted August 18, 2020 Thank you, guys for being honest with me and I will look into saying something to ebay about this. I had a kind of sinking feeling when I opened up the box with the meteorite there and only a card from the business 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GotAU? 105 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jadee said: Thank you, guys for being honest with me and I will look into saying something to ebay about this. I had a kind of sinking feeling when I opened up the box with the meteorite there and only a card from the business Check this, and if you really want to be sure, there is contact info on it to have you send in photos, but I think the others are right. https://meteorites.ucla.edu/static/custom/documents/howto.pdf 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jadee 20 Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share Posted August 20, 2020 I sent the seller a message just simply saying that there are some doubts as to the "meteorite's" authenticity and that I needed more substantial proof. I got this through a bid auction. Did a test on the rock on the back of some porcelain and it was a black streak What should I do next? I am going to contact Ebay and tell them about what I have found along with as many pictures and posted facts as to what meteorites look like; I will do whatever it takes to make sure no one else fall prey to scam artist's like these! 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Morlock 1,722 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 48 minutes ago, Jadee said: I sent the seller a message just simply saying that there are some doubts as to the "meteorite's" authenticity and that I needed more substantial proof. I got this through a bid auction. Did a test on the rock on the back of some porcelain and it was a black streak What should I do next? I am going to contact Ebay and tell them about what I have found along with as many pictures and posted facts as to what meteorites look like; I will do whatever it takes to make sure no one else fall prey to scam artist's like these! Yeah. I'm not surprised. I looked up the seller on eBay. Their was one guy who sold plain rocks or iron minerals as meteorites in eBay and was from Colorado. First name was Stephen. I bet it's the same guy. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GotAU? 105 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Jadee said: I sent the seller a message just simply saying that there are some doubts as to the "meteorite's" authenticity and that I needed more substantial proof. I got this through a bid auction. Did a test on the rock on the back of some porcelain and it was a black streak What should I do next? I am going to contact Ebay and tell them about what I have found along with as many pictures and posted facts as to what meteorites look like; I will do whatever it takes to make sure no one else fall prey to scam artist's like these! Send photos of it to that UCLA link that is on the meteorite id poster I posted above- There are experts here, but you would carry a lot more weight having a mote from UCLA telling you if it’s real or not when you’re making a claim with eBay. Good luck with that and I’m sorry about your disappointing purchase, don’t let it stop you from collecting real ones! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jadee 20 Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share Posted August 20, 2020 This is that seller's letter he sent me after I asked for a refund: 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mikestang 926 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Cut it in half and let's see the inside, that would go a long way. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Au Seeker 3,173 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 5 hours ago, Jadee said: This is that seller's letter he sent me after I asked for a refund: 4 hours ago, Mikestang said: Cut it in half and let's see the inside, that would go a long way. I also advise if you can't cut it in half to at least cut/file a "window" so the interior can be viewed, seeing the inside will tell for sure if it's a meteorite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jadee 20 Posted August 21, 2020 Author Share Posted August 21, 2020 Okay, I will cut a window and show what I find 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rocky 344 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Sean is a awesome dude who has a tremendous amount of experience with meteorites. This is no doubt a weathered NWA meteorite IMO. The streak test only applies to freshly fallen meteorites and only on the fusion crust. A streak test does not apply to this stone, it is too old and weathered along with no fusion crust and the results have no meaningful diagnostic use. All said and done it will not hurt the value at all to cut it in half for the experience as well as to expose the shiny flecks of metal that are likely within. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jadee 20 Posted September 30, 2020 Author Share Posted September 30, 2020 Wow Thank you very much for letting me know. I must get in touch with him and pay him plus I want to give him a few Minnesota treasures some Lake Superior agates to apologize. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jimale 40 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 On 8/18/2020 at 8:10 AM, Jadee said: Thank you, guys for being honest with me and I will look into saying something to ebay about this. I had a kind of sinking feeling when I opened up the box with the meteorite there and only a card from the business Jadee, This is how a fresh fallen meteorite looks like. This one have just picked today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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