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On 5/31/2020 at 8:04 PM, Bedrock Bob said:

Black clothing can mean only one thing.

They must be an ANTIFA sleeper cell. A coven of far left terrorists hell bent on the destruction of everything our soldiers fought and died for.

They were probably drunk on human blood and target practicing on puppies right before the cops rolled up.

The cops should have keeled on their necks for 8 minutes and 46 seconds. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/twitter-takes-down-washington-protest-disinformation-bot-behavior-n1221456

If this happens online, it could very well be happening on the streets as well.

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14 minutes ago, Bedrock Bob said:

I don't think so. Not after kneeling for 8 minutes and 46 seconds on the man's neck.

It is just a tactic to try and take the focus off of what that cop did to this man. He killed him. He knelt on him until he was sure he was dead. Three others stood beside him and let it happen.

The cop murdered him plain and simple. Like so many others for so many years.Time to fix the problem and call this exactly what it is.

Your loosing focus Bob. The information was quoted as coming from Hennipen Co. Coroner's report. He is supposed to be a neutral 3rd party with no interest in the outcome of the case. So he has to give factual information to the prosecutor. I get what you're saying, and I agree, that's what it looked like. But looks can and will be deceiving at times. And that's why a search for the truth is so important. Otherwise, big surprises in the courtroom can lose the case and the defendant could get off, even if guilty.

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8 hours ago, LukeJ said:

No.  I just thought I'd repeat a term that has been popularized these last few years.

It doesn't matter how true a statement might be, once 'Fake news' has been proclaimed.

It's the flip side of the coin.

Why would you post anything you weren't sure was true?

Because Slim was busy reviewing earth quake data and couldn't go to Minnesota and interview the Coroner under oath? Come on Luke, I said it was a news source, for any fact checkers that wanted to research it. That's fair and reasonable. By the way, I like the term. And the truth does matter, and it doesn't go away. So we'll see. And if it's fake news, I'll be among the first to condemn it as such.

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About two dozen Boogaloo Bois assembled just down from the police station to start trouble in Las Cruces tonight. All of them from out of town.

They weren't here to engage in peaceful protest. They are far right militant cop hating extremists. No doubt looking to turn the protest into a riot, discredit the movement and cause problems with the police.

These ain't ANTIFA my friends. They are at the opposite end of the political spectrum. 

If we want to stop the violence in the streets we need to admit who is causing it. And it isn't the protesters. It is groups with entirely different motives taking advantage of the situation to further their own ends.

 

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4 hours ago, Bedrock Bob said:

You are in some sort of fantasy land Mac. Your assumptions about me are as far off base as your assumptions about our society.

I'll let you know when I get mad, Hispanic or take a job as a social worker. Until then keep shooting in the dark. Maybe you will get lucky.

If anyone is butt hurt about the description "pale white man" just let me know and I'll edit it. I wasnt trying to offend anyone. All you gotta do is ask me politely and tell me you would like me to change it. I definitely don't think it is racist but if you do then let me know.

Please tell me why you think it is racist because I just dont see it. But I don't want to offend the pale white man any more than the light skinned Latinos or the dark skinned African Americans. Heaven forbid I offend the coffee and cream mulatto. 

It's just a discussion Mac. You aren't shaking anyone's world with your opinions. They line right up with the party line and we have heard them all before. I disagree with some and I agree with some. Wrestling with you over the part I disagree with is something I enjoy but not something that really makes much difference to me in the course of my day.

You can still pretend though. I can be whatever color you want to imagine. I can be a radical liberal if you want me to be. Or a revolutionary or a social worker. You can visualize me however you want. I don't mind at all.

You don't have to imagine though. If you want to know what reality is I'll tell you. But you will have to ask me politely. 

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I appreciate your ex-post facto edits and corrections Bob, a lot of it didn't make sense before due to misspelled words, typos etc, but at least now I can read what you are saying. It still doesn't make sense but since, as you said, it's not shaking anyone's world, I guess it's harmless enough.

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43 minutes ago, Bedrock Bob said:

I don't think so. Not after kneeling for 8 minutes and 46 seconds on the man's neck.

It is just a tactic to try and take the focus off of what that cop did to this man. He killed him. He knelt on him until he was sure he was dead. Three others stood beside him and let it happen.

The cop murdered him plain and simple. Like so many others for so many years.Time to fix the problem and call this exactly what it is.

We all agree the cop murdered George Floyd. What problem are the the rioters, looters and arsonists fixing?
Mr. Floyd is gone but the rioters, looters and arsonists are still at large and committing additional crimes. 
These are not humans. Animals is too nice of a term. They are scum and need to pay for their crimes. Most Americans agree.
   

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I love it when the guy hanging on the driver's door falls and bangs his head.

 

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33 minutes ago, Bedrock Bob said:

About two dozen Boogaloo Bois assembled just down from the police station to start trouble in Las Cruces tonight. All of them from out of town.

They weren't here to engage in peaceful protest. They are far right militant cop hating extremists. No doubt looking to turn the protest into a riot, discredit the movement and cause problems with the police.

These ain't ANTIFA my friends. They are at the opposite end of the political spectrum. 

If we want to stop the violence in the streets we need to admit who is causing it. And it isn't the protesters. It is groups with entirely different motives taking advantage of the situation to further their own ends.

 

There is a grain of truth in what you say Bob. There are far right militants, (but what you forgot to mention), there are also far left militants that cause problems. Looks like the Left may have taken the night off. But both groups have radical agendas as does ANTIFA. So why stick up for, or defend any of them?

You also failed to mention the looters in your colloquy,  many of which are protesters that loot, pillage and commit acts of violence as a manifestation of their anger (and some do it to justify their behavior, and victim hood) Fortunately, Las Cruces has thus far been spared.

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1 hour ago, BMc said:

There is a grain of truth in what you say Bob. There are far right militants, (but what you forgot to mention), there are also far left militants that cause problems. Looks like the Left may have taken the night off. But both groups have radical agendas as does ANTIFA. So why stick up for, or defend any of them?

You also failed to mention the looters in your colloquy,  many of which are protesters that loot, pillage and commit acts of violence as a manifestation of their anger (and some do it to justify their behavior, and victim hood) Fortunately, Las Cruces has thus far been spared.

I didn't mention them because there were none at the protest.

Just the Boogaloo Bois. Not ANTIFA. Not radical left agitators. No looters to be seen. Just armed right wing racists here to cause trouble.

Las Cruces was spared tonight because the police got control of the situation before this scum could start trouble.

We have had peaceful protest and will continue to do so as long as outsiders with ulterior motives are identified and stopped.

It wasn't a dissertation on every possible group that causes trouble across the nation. It was what happened in Las Cruces today and the armed right wing racist group that was assembling "to protect businesses from rioters and looters". 

There is no rioting here and we don't need this waste of human skin to show up armed to the teeth to "protect" us. Our police are doing a fine job and our anti fascists have always supported peaceful protest in our community. They support the police and as long as they remain peaceful the police are supporting them.

As long as they remain peaceful so do I.

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2 hours ago, Bedrock Bob said:

I dont support a "confiscatory" tax policy nor a redistribution of wealth.

Nor do I support Socialism.

I do support a living minimum wage and I do expect the super rich to pay their fair share in taxes.

I also support a reasonable universal health care program that covers basic needs for everyone. As well as funding to provide minimum education.

None of that is anywhere close to Socialism. But then you know that. You just want to argue. And call me a "Socialist". 

It is you trying on shoes you think might look good on me. None of them fit so far. I prefer something a little more butch but if you like to imagine me a Latino social worker in golden slippers let your freak run wild.

 

 "pay their fair share" 

I love that phrase! What it means is let the radicals decide "whats fair" That's hilarious! And yes, "fair share" would absolutely be a confiscatory tax rate and would result in power and wealth being redistributed as a permanent government control system. Who doesn't like free stuff and a Nanny state? Perfect! If you like a one party system . . .

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6 minutes ago, Bedrock Bob said:

agrei didn't mention them Mac because there were none at the protest.

Just the Boogaloo Bois. Not ANTIFA. 

Las Cruces was spared tonight because the police got control of the situation before this scum could start trouble.

We have had peaceful protest and will continue to do so as long as outsiders with ulterior motives are identified and stopped.

"agrei didn't mention them Mac because there were none at the protest"

Great! Good luck with that.

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44 minutes ago, BMc said:

 "pay their fair share" 

I love that phrase! What it means is let the radicals decide "whats fair" That's hilarious! And yes, "fair share" would absolutely be a confiscatory tax rate and would result in power and wealth being redistributed as a permanent government control system. Who doesn't like free stuff and a Nanny state? Perfect! If you like a one party system . . .

That is not what it means. That is just your once fertile imagination running away with you again. 

 

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1 hour ago, BMc said:

"agrei didn't mention them Mac because there were none at the protest"

Great! Good luck with that.

You are grasping at anything aren't you Mac?

Stay calm buddy!  You are making a fool of yourself. Worse than the Poodle story and even the alien abduction tale.

Just pick a concept and honestly debate it. You are thrashing around hoping you can fault me for something and it is just not working. You have lowered yourself to spell checking unedited posts to try and make headway.

Take a deep breath and try really hard to stay on topic. I know you can do it!

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2 hours ago, Dakota Slim said:

We all agree the cop murdered George Floyd. What problem are the the rioters, looters and arsonists fixing?
Mr. Floyd is gone but the rioters, looters and arsonists are still at large and committing additional crimes. 
These are not humans. Animals is too nice of a term. They are scum and need to pay for their crimes. Most Americans agree.
   

We all agree that the arsonists, rioters and looters need to be punished. Everyone who has posted on this thread has made that clear.

What's your point Slim? To say they are "scum", "animals" and "not human"? 

They aren't animals Slim. And they are human. Humans that are breaking the law. I hope the rioting stops and the criminals are brought to justice too.

Somehow I get the idea that is just not good enough for you. 

 

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5 hours ago, Bedrock Bob said:

You are grasping at anything aren't you Mac?

Stay calm buddy!  You are making a fool of yourself. Worse than the Poodle story and even the alien abduction tale.

Just pick a concept and honestly debate it. You are thrashing around hoping you can fault me for something and it is just not working. You have lowered yourself to spell checking unedited posts to try and make headway.

Take a deep breath and try really hard to stay on topic. I know you can do it!

:laught16:

Was that a spell check error? OK, whatever you say Bob. I posted it to call your attention to it because I didn't know what it was. Looked like it might be a groups initials that I wasn't familiar with or something. At least I alerted you to a a jumbled up mess that didn't make sense. Seriously Bob, If it's about editing, I would encourage you to edit a little more before you spew this stuff out, instead of waiting to see my response, then changing your whole post to try to create the illusion that I'm "thrashing around", (and relying on me to do your clean up for you) 

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8 hours ago, BMc said:

Because Slim was busy reviewing earth quake data and couldn't go to Minnesota and interview the Coroner under oath? Come on Luke, I said it was a news source, for any fact checkers that wanted to research it. That's fair and reasonable. By the way, I like the term. And the truth does matter, and it doesn't go away. So we'll see. And if it's fake news, I'll be among the first to condemn it as such.

Turns out, it's not "Fake News" Now you have an apparent real conflict and contradiction between two of the prosecution's experts that performed separate autopsies. Hate to say it, but stuff like this is what sometimes leads to hung juries and mistrials, and worst case scenario; even possible acquittal. 

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7 hours ago, Bedrock Bob said:

I didn't mention them because there were none at the protest.

Just the Boogaloo Bois. Not ANTIFA. Not radical left agitators. No looters to be seen. Just armed right wing racists here to cause trouble.

Las Cruces was spared tonight because the police got control of the situation before this scum could start trouble.

We have had peaceful protest and will continue to do so as long as outsiders with ulterior motives are identified and stopped.

It wasn't a dissertation on every possible group that causes trouble across the nation. It was what happened in Las Cruces today and the armed right wing racist group that was assembling "to protect businesses from rioters and looters". 

There is no rioting here and we don't need this waste of human skin to show up armed to the teeth to "protect" us. Our police are doing a fine job and our anti fascists have always supported peaceful protest in our community. They support the police and as long as they remain peaceful the police are supporting them.

As long as they remain peaceful so do I.

"our anti fascists have always supported peaceful protest in our community"

Well I guess your organization is doing a fine job then, huh Bob?

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12 hours ago, LukeJ said:

I think they've put that largely behind them.

Which could be why they seem to be doing better than us these days.

"Delta is ready when you are . . . " :)

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You don't think ISIS has people here? 
How do you like the chaos and anarchy now?

 

slim,
no ISIS is not "here" now.
I have never liked the chaos or anarchy and have never posted anything about either,
so why bother with such a ridiculous and ignorant insinuation?

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1 hour ago, BMc said:

"our anti fascists have always supported peaceful protest in our community"

Well I guess your organization is doing a fine job then, huh Bob?

I've always been puzzled by the term "anti fascists". Who are the alleged fascists?

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6 minutes ago, Dakota Slim said:

I've always been puzzled by the term "anti fascists". Who are the alleged fascists?

Do you need someone to explain it to you Slim?

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15 minutes ago, FlakMagnet said:

You don't think ISIS has people here? 
How do you like the chaos and anarchy now?

 

slim,
no ISIS is not "here" now.
I have never liked the chaos or anarchy and have never posted anything about either,
so why bother with such a ridiculous and ignorant insinuation?

Hi David. I distinctly remember the following post you made which was Skip edited to remove criticism. As for ISIS in the US, have a look at the following link or Google it. Certainly in our diverse society and the fact that our borders were so easily penetrated, one can not rule out anything. Then, of course, ISIS can freely recruit new members though any number of means.

 

On 4/23/2020 at 9:32 AM, Dakota Slim said:

I think you can probably agree that we either have law and order in this country or we have chaos and anarchy. 

I don't agree at all. We have an erosion of many aspects of 'law and order', It's not either/or…that kind of simplistic mind set does't work.

 

Edited  by Au Seeker
to remove criticism

 

https://extremism.gwu.edu/isis-america

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13 minutes ago, Bedrock Bob said:

Do you need someone to explain it to you Slim?

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I don't blame you for not wanting to go down that rabbit hole Bob,  :200:  It might not work out so well for you . . . but then again, who knows? 

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18 minutes ago, Bedrock Bob said:

Do you need someone to explain it to you Slim?

:laught16:

Sure bob. Give it your best shot. 

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