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22 minutes ago, Dakota Slim said:

 I presume you heard about that gal in Texas who was fined and thrown in jail -- and then released.  
Here's a link...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/abbott-issues-executive-order-eliminating-jail-as-punishment-for-violating-coronavirus-restrictions

Isn't that a political issue?  Even Fox 'news' classified it as such.

I don't think people should be jailed for not observing restrictions.

However,  business owners should be penalized for putting others at risk if they open up against regulations.

If the stimulus money had gone to where it was needed, these people could afford to be more patient.

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7 minutes ago, LukeJ said:

Isn't that a political issue?  Even Fox 'news' classified it as such.

I don't think people should be jailed for not observing restrictions.

However,  business owners should be penalized for putting others at risk if they open up against regulations.

If the stimulus money had gone to where it was needed, these people could afford to be more patient.

Well, it certainly had to do with COVID-19 and mediation. That seems to be a very political issue at this time but justice certainly shouldn't be political. 

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Getting back to facts about this virus, as of today there have been about 1.3 million cases, 217,000 people have recovered, 77,000 have died and 17,000 people are in critical condition in the US.
It should be noted that the death count is fuzzy. That is, many people who were already in very bad shape -- and even in hospice -- who died have been reportedly been counted as COVID-19 victims. I'm not sure why that is, but this was touched on earlier in this thread and I suggested that in places like NY where there were many deaths, it made more sense to treat the sick than to use medical personnel to determine the actual cause of death.
This virus is still going strong, and people need to keep that in mind as businesses reopen. 

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Over half the deaths in the US are in Jersey, Massachuchi, and New Yuk.

It didn't help matters when Cuomo sent breeders to nursing homes,  and turned a blind eye away from the rolling homeless shelters, er, subway cars.

At least now, he's attempting to sanitize the cars, daily, but if you don't kick out the bums, the status quo of filth and disease spreading will continue.

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-hydroxychloroquine/malaria-drug-touted-by-trump-for-coronavirus-fails-another-test-idUSKBN22J3FP

 

1 hour ago, Dakota Slim said:

Getting back to facts about this virus, as of today there have been about 1.3 million cases, 217,000 people have recovered, 77,000 have died and 17,000 people are in critical condition in the US.

This virus is still going strong, and people need to keep that in mind as businesses reopen. 

Thanks for the facts Slim.  Hopefully people will heed your warning.

 

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1 hour ago, LukeJ said:

That reuters.com article is misleading. The latest I heard was that hyroxychloroquine ALONG with Zpak AND zinc worked wonders on people who were treated as soon as symptoms appeared. The reuters article doesn't mention Zpac or zinc and the patients may have had (or did have) advanced cases. 

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Zinc is the key factor.. Less than $5  for 

months' dose.

 

The hydroxy  (synthetic quinine)costs less

than $4.

I haven't checked on tonic water,lately, but it contains(used to) QUININE).

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13 hours ago, Morlock said:

This is another person with a huge, fantastic stable brain.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judy_Mikovits

Some people believe we've never put a man on the moon. Others believe the earth is flat. She fits right into  those conspiracy minded people who ignore the facts.

Really, ??conflate a PhD with flat earther's?Right... nice Alinsky tactic.....

Tryagain...

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2 hours ago, Dakota Slim said:

That reuters.com article is misleading. The latest I heard was that hyroxychloroquine ALONG with Zpak AND zinc worked wonders on people who were treated as soon as symptoms appeared. The reuters article doesn't mention Zpac or zinc and the patients may have had (or did have) advanced cases. 

Do you know what 'Zpac' is?  :89:   Are You or Weaver doctors?  Do you have any knowledge of science at all?

Zpac, otherwise know as azithromycin, is an antibiotic.  Antibiotics kill bacteria.  Not virus'.  :shhhhh:

"Latest you heard..."   Really?  From where?  Who?  YouTube?  Google?  Seriously?   :idunno:

This article is the latest news on this particular subject as of 5 hours ago. 

Is there some newer development?

 

 

Decades old hydroxychloroquine, which is also used to treat lupus and rheumatoid arthritis, also showed no benefit when combined with the antibiotic azithromycin, Schluger’s team reported. Azithromycin alone also showed no benefit.

 

Last month, doctors at the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs reported that hydroxychloroquine did not help COVID-19 patients and might pose a higher risk of death.

That analysis of medical records showed a death rate of 28% when the drug was given in addition to standard treatments, compared to 11% with standard care alone.

 

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Every man takes the limits of his own field of vision for the limits of the world.

Arthur Schopenhauer

 

Arthur Schopenhauer (1788—1860)

Schopenhauer.jpgArthur Schopenhauer has been dubbed the artist’s philosopher on account of the inspiration his aesthetics has provided to artists of all stripes. He is also known as the philosopher of pessimism, as he articulated a worldview that challenges the value of existence.

 

 

Hmmmm…..   The philosopher of pessimism.

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Nate Silver: 'Basic error' on coronavirus stories reveal media’s true goals

FiveThirtyEight editor Nate Silver said the mainstream media is not giving proper context to stories on the rise of coronavirus cases, which he calls a “basic error” that reveals an agenda to prioritize narratives that “sound smart” over accuracy and truth.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/nate-silver-coronavirus-media

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It's just my humble opinion but I'd say it's time to reopen this country. People are smart enough to social distance themselves and business owners are people. Without businesses there are no jobs. We all know who needs the most protection. Let's roll. 

 

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Nevada moving into Phase One ahead of schedule

 

Nevada Gov. Steve Sisolak, looking rather tired, said Thursday that the state is moving forward into Phase One of his four-phase plan starting Saturday, nearly a week ahead of schedule.

 In Sisolak’s Phase One restaurants, retail stores, salons and cosmetologists, may reopen their doors to the public starting this 12:01 a.m. Saturday. That said, Sisolak rambled through a series of contradictions within that announced framework. One announcement still missing: Casinos and other gaming businesses will not be allowed to reopen in Phase One, which is in effect through May 30. Phase One originally was scheduled to be enacted May 15, giving hope that the timelines for subsequent phases may be moved up as well. Many of the state’s casinos are hoping for a Memorial Day weekend reopening. Memorial Day is Monday, May 25. 

http://www.mohavedailynews.com/news/nevada-moving-into-phase-one-ahead-of-schedule/article_13cc55ee-90ff-11ea-88e9-ebaaf5998e01.html

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40 minutes ago, Dakota Slim said:

It's just my humble opinion but I'd say it's time to reopen this country. People are smart enough to social distance themselves and business owners are people. Without businesses there are no jobs. We all know who needs the most protection. Let's roll. 

 

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The States are all "rolling" based on their individual situation. So if things aren't "rolling" fast enough for you just contact your governor or representative.

Yes, we know who needs protection. And if you disagree with what is going on in your area then contact your community and State leaders!

Where I live we acted early and fairly restrictively. We are opening things up with some clear guidelines and most people are complying. I think the balance between the economy and the disease was handled as well as it could have been. So I don't have any big gripes.

Most places are up and running at half throttle. My business was (is and will be) impacted severely. Despite my losses I think we should proceed with extreme caution. But I do think we should proceed and allow some businesses to open with strict guidelines.

So far I think most States are handling the "reopening" well. It was a painful thing to loose two months and then be severely limited for the near future. There is no doubt it was a severe blow. Some won't recover and lots of jobs won't come back. But people will figure out how to build again. They always do.

I don't see anyone losing their liberties. Nor do I see anything wrong with being asked to abide by the State guidelines. In some cases the guidelines were too restrictive. But I don't see any "constitutional" issues at all. Others may and that is their choice. It will be interesting how those arguments play out across the nation. 

Those arguments will be decided in the high courts by men who understand the constitution. Not on the internet forums by men who do not.

Let your elected leaders know how you feel if you have objections. If you think things are too restrictive where you live and it is time to "roll" then voice those opinions in a place it will do some good!

Meanwhile, in New Mexico we are rolling. Slowly and carefully. Very few have suffered much so far. The community is TOGETHER and is taking care of each other well. We can hold out a lot longer if we need to. And we will continue to support each other in the tough times ahead.

Because that is how we roll.

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30 minutes ago, Bedrock Bob said:

The States are all "rolling" based on their individual situation. So if things aren't "rolling" fast enough for you just contact your governor or representative.

Yes, we know who needs protection. And if you disagree with what is going on in your area then contact your community and State leaders!

Where I live we acted early and fairly restrictively. We are opening things up with some clear guidelines and most people are complying. I think the balance between the economy and the disease was handled as well as it could have been. So I don't have any big gripes.

Most places are up and running at half throttle. My business was (is and will be) impacted severely. Despite my losses I think we should proceed with extreme caution. But I do think we should proceed and allow some businesses to open with strict guidelines.

So far I think most States are handling the "reopening" well. It was a painful thing to loose two months and then be severely limited for the near future. There is no doubt it was a severe blow. Some won't recover and lots of jobs won't come back. But people will figure out how to build again. They always do.

I don't see anyone losing their liberties. Nor do I see anything wrong with being asked to abide by the State guidelines. In some cases the guidelines were too restrictive. But I don't see any "constitutional" issues at all. Others may and that is their choice. It will be interesting how those arguments play out across the nation. 

Those arguments will be decided in the high courts by men who understand the constitution. Not on the internet forums by men who do not.

Let your elected leaders know how you feel if you have objections. If you think things are too restrictive where you live and it is time to "roll" then voice those opinions in a place it will do some good!

Meanwhile, in New Mexico we are rolling. Slowly and carefully. Very few have suffered much so far. The community is TOGETHER and is taking care of each other well. We can hold out a lot longer if we need to. And we will continue to support each other in the tough times ahead.

Because that is how we roll.

Then we agree? I'm so glad you are rolling over there in NM and very few have suffered. After the fiasco in Gallop I thought all hell had broken loose. 

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https://news.yahoo.com/in-a-hurry-to-reopen-state-arizona-governor-disbands-scientific-panel-that-modeled-outbreak-180726870.html

 

“I can say, scientifically, no, it’s not safe to reopen unless you’re planning on, you know, shutting down again after a couple of weeks,” Tim Lant, a mathematical epidemiologist at ASU, told the Republic prior to Ducey’s decision to go against the team’s modeling.

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24 minutes ago, Dakota Slim said:

Then we agree? I'm so glad you are rolling over there in NM and very few have suffered. After the fiasco in Gallop I thought all hell had broken loose. 

Do you mean Gallup?

New Mexico is doing well. We have been lucky as well as careful. 

And we are being careful in Gallup too. It is still locked down. As well as the reservation. They are extending the lockdown in coordination with the Navajo Nation.

It is a great example of why the entire nation does not just "get rolling" at once. Where there are hotspots (like the Navajo Nation) things need to close to limit spread. Where things are not so bad (like the rest of the State) things can open up a bit.

You don't have to be uninformed and think "all he'll has broken loose". You can always use Google to select any site with good ratings. They all have accurate news on the situation with the Navajo Nation as well as New Mexico. 

I don't know if you will accept the "facts" from this site but it is where New Mexicans go to get info for our State. You can even view cases by zip code or county. And there is a link to the Navajo Nation so you can learn about what is happening there too.

https://www.kob.com/albuquerque-news/cases-rise-to-2757-on-navajo-nation-88-total-reported-deaths/5723516/?cat=500

https://cvprovider.nmhealth.org/public-dashboard.html

https://www.ndoh.navajo-nsn.gov/COVID-19

 

 

 

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