Railguy Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 I've always seen this on the farm where I grew up. We always call it iron ore . Recently I ran metal detector over it and it didn't set it off. It's only in a small area and I've never seen it any where else. Some of the bigger pieces have sandstone in them. I've found sandstone that appear to be stained by something. Recently I found a sandstone broken and the staining goes into it a ways. Thanks railguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 I would call that some type of breccia. A metal detector shouldn't go off on it even if it did contain iron. Nice example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_day Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 It looks incredibly similar to a jasper we have in California. Can’t say what you’ve got there though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railguy Posted November 30, 2019 Author Share Posted November 30, 2019 More pics Sandstone stained with the iron rust like substance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railguy Posted November 30, 2019 Author Share Posted November 30, 2019 5 hours ago, d_day said: It looks incredibly similar to a jasper we have in California. Can’t say what you’ve got there though. I hung native American artifacts. I've seen jasper. This is nothing like the jasper around here. The yellowish piecee in the stone looked like what I've always called "clay stone". The rocks look sedimentary possibly fused together by the iron looking material . I should say some of the rocks are quite large maybe 5 ft. Across. In the field there is 2 places where its sticking out of the ground. No telling how big it is. I guess it's big enough that it wasn't moved just farmed around. Another thing I should say is the area where it's at is slate. And there is spings everywhere. Water literally comes up through paved roads.I have a gravel driveway when it rains there r two springs in it. I have iron and sulfer in my well water. Rocks r not magnetic. TMI? Thanks railguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railguy Posted November 30, 2019 Author Share Posted November 30, 2019 Rock in question with sandstone in it. Railguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railguy Posted November 30, 2019 Author Share Posted November 30, 2019 6 hours ago, Morlock said: I would call that some type of breccia. A metal detector shouldn't go off on it even if it did contain iron. Nice example. It does look like that. I live at the foot of the Appalachian mountains lots of lime stone around . It fascinates me that this was once sea floor. These rocks look like their made up of sediment of a large river. No rivers here now. Is it possible the iron if it is iron is from a meteor? Thanks railguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_day Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 38 minutes ago, Railguy said: I hung native American artifacts. I've seen jasper. This is nothing like the jasper around here. The yellowish piecee in the stone looked like what I've always called "clay stone". The rocks look sedimentary possibly fused together by the iron looking material . I should say some of the rocks are quite large maybe 5 ft. Across. In the field there is 2 places where its sticking out of the ground. No telling how big it is. I guess it's big enough that it wasn't moved just farmed around. Another thing I should say is the area where it's at is slate. And there is spings everywhere. Water literally comes up through paved roads.I have a gravel driveway when it rains there r two springs in it. I have iron and sulfer in my well water. Rocks r not magnetic. TMI? Thanks railguy I wasn’t suggesting it was jasper. It just looks a lot like jasper I’ve collected from a place called lavic siding. The pic you posted of the very large boulder makes me think you’re on the right track with sedimentary. It sure looks like some sort of conglomerate cemented together by iron bearing sands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveZ Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, d_day said: I wasn’t suggesting it was jasper. It just looks a lot like jasper I’ve collected from a place called lavic siding. The pic you posted of the very large boulder makes me think you’re on the right track with sedimentary. It sure looks like some sort of conglomerate cemented together by iron bearing sands. I'm with d_day. Conglomerate ...although the bigger rough chunks in it did make think breccia at first glance. The second pic shows what looks to my eye like rounded, water-worn (mostly sedimentary)cobble mixed together with the (sedimentary)chunky rough stuff.... The definitions are so similar.... ""Breccia and conglomerate are very similar rocks. They are both clastic sedimentary rocks composed of particles larger than two millimeters in diameter. The difference is in the shape of the large particles. In breccia the large particles are angular in shape, but in conglomerate the particles are rounded."" You wanna call it both?? Earlier this year, I walked a trail around the edge of a lake where a huge wall of nearly identical conglomerate had been carved out to make the trail. While looking at it up close, hematite and magnetite "black sands" are what I kinda assumed were forming the iron cement. Edited December 1, 2019 by DaveZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railguy Posted December 1, 2019 Author Share Posted December 1, 2019 7 hours ago, Railguy said: Rock in question with sandstone in it. Railguy I should have said earlier this is about soft ball size. Railguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railguy Posted December 1, 2019 Author Share Posted December 1, 2019 8 hours ago, Railguy said: More pics Sandstone stained with the iron rust like substance. This rock is about 10-12 inchs across. Railguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedrock Bob Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 The second photo is awesome conglomerate bedrock that the sandstone cement has undergone hematite replacement. The first photos are the same stuff only from an altered zone. Maybe at the boundary of another formation where the conglomerate has been subjected to heat/pressure or stretching. Leastwise that is what it looks like to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedrock Bob Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 32 minutes ago, Railguy said: This rock is about 10-12 inchs across. Railguy That right there is more hematite replacing the organics in the sandstone and leaving only silica crystals. This happens by electrolysis from a slightly acidic or alkaline solution. Iron carried in water trades places with carbon in the sandstone and forms hematite. It is exactly the same process that is working on the cement in that conglomerate. Or it could be something else. I really don't know much about rocks. I just am a really good BS'er. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railguy Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 I noticed on Wikipedia there a yellow hemetite, could that be the yellow in the yellow stones? Railguy On 11/30/2019 at 11:32 AM, Railguy said: More pics Sandstone stained with the iron rust like substance. This rock is about 10-12 inchs across. Railguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedrock Bob Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 12 hours ago, Railguy said: I noticed on Wikipedia there a yellow hemetite, could that be the yellow in the yellow stones? Railguy This rock is about 10-12 inchs across. Railguy Indeed it could be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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