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There will be a shower of stones in El Paso tomorrow. Possibly several. I am going down to witness the fall and collect a stone or two. 

I figure I'll have some tacos pastor and a big glass of horchata at Don Cuco's. Maybe go by the cigar shop and score a puro. Then try to get as close to the action as I can without getting too caught up in the event. I will photograph and recover as many fallen stones as I can. These will be available to interested parties after I return from the riot... er … fall.

Depending on the outcome of the event these items could be valuable collectables. Bullets from a massacre, glass from a famous wreck or a handful of dirt from Jim Morrison's grave are all things that fetch a good price. Stones from the riot that started an American race war would definitely be something to have.

The prospects of that or something similar happening in El Paso tomorrow are very good IMHO. I certainly hope that does not happen but it won't hurt to go down and collect a few rocks if it does.

As an avid rock collector it is a heck of an opportunity. I don't know anyone who might have a rock hurled in anger in their collection. Or one involved in a stoning.  It is bound to be an adventure and any rocks recovered will surely have a unique story behind them.

Wish me luck!

 

 

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Perseids does not peak for another few days.

Antifa " rocks " are a bunch of worthless...

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Posted (edited)

If you say so.

Neither the Perseids nor ANTIFA have anything  to do with what is happening in El Paso today. :idunno:

Edited by Bedrock Bob
Please don't try to shut this thread down by injecting your personal political opinions. They are quite irrelevant.

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3 hours ago, Bedrock Bob said:

If you say so.

Neither the Perseids nor ANTIFA have anything  to do with what is happening in El Paso today. :idunno:

Well I know that POTUS is visiting and protests are planned, as well as ANTIFA making a showing.  If anyone would be throwing rocks,  ."stones from the riot",,,it would be them.

And, ANTIFA rocks are worthless.Their value  is zero when assayed.

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BB said, "Stones from the riot that started an American race war would definitely be something to have."

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That was in Chicago in1919.  Illinois is a bit up river from Texas, dontcha think?

Are you trying to shut down your own thread?

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I am at the airport where the Peoples Front of Judaea is gathered for the arrival of the guest of honor. That is supposed to happen at four.

Was downtown where the Judaean Peoples Front and the Popular Front are assembled. It is all love. Many people are speaking. Lots of emotion but lots of forgiveness too. The leaders know it is volatile but the people of el paso are awesome.

It is going to be a long night. I don't see things getting out of hand but it is a big city. And people are super emotional after what happened.

The rock hunting is dismal so far. But the tacos were fantastic and the sense of community and love are huge. So I have already found treasure.

Just for the record ANTIFA didn't kill a bunch of folks here. A violent, hateful racist did. We should not try to pretend who is the threat to the public here in El Paso. Please show a little  respect for what has happened here.

Typing with my thumb so I am signing off. Live on assignment from El Paso this is Bedrock Bob.

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14 minutes ago, Bedrock Bob said:

 

Just for the record ANTIFA didn't...Live on assignment from El Paso this is Bedrock Bob.

You mentioned  riots and rock throwing.   And they're coming down to that great republic...

 

That is their modus operandi...I just put 2 and 2 togeth er.

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4 hours ago, Bedrock Bob said:

A violent, hateful racist did. We should not try to pretend who is the threat to the public here in El Paso.

Gangs are a big problem. EL PASO PD has a pretty good handle on it, though, when compared to other cities(52 shot/ 7dead in Chicago over the weekend...Chicago dead ..

but since those are individual shootings and primarily black on black violence, it doesn't fit the narrative of" angry white males are the terrorists" that the lamestream media would have us believe.

The violence project

Yup there are too many crazies on antidepressants and whose only connection to the outside  world  is the internet.   Sad thing is,they telegraph their  intentions  long before  they go off the deep end.   THE LINK was a 2 year study of mass shootings going back to the  '60's to present.

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The violence in El Paso fits the "white male terrorist" narrative perfectly. It also fits the historical pattern of violent racism along the border committed by white male terrorists. A pattern that is well documented since the mid 1800's.

You can disagree with the press it gets but you can't disagree that it is happening. You can stand in judgement of the guy who punches Nazis in the face for sport as well. But after something like this happens you can't do either without seeming sympathetic to a violent racist or supportive of fascists who hide behind constitutional freedoms to spread hate in our streets.

I would like to think that you weren't a person who would embrace or empower racism or hate speech. But you certainly are not offering any discussion outside of those topics.

I wanted this to be a fun thing and maybe bring back a point of view from El Paso that came from a unique non-political angle. Maybe tell a story about a rock that someone might enjoy. But you had other ideas for this thread and seem to be intent on defending some (IMHO) really dark ideals that have nothing to do with the topic.

So go for it! I'll take the treasure I found in El Paso and tell my story elsewhere. I'm not about to try and spin a story over all your noise.

You need to learn to relax and let things unfold rather than always try to direct them the way you want them to go. You are way too busy telling everyone how it is to figure out how far out in right field you really are. Who knows, you might learn something if you stopped trying to know it all. Just sayin'. :idunno:

 

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2 hours ago, Bedrock Bob said:

The violence in El Paso fits the "white male terrorist" narrative perfectly. It also fits the historical pattern of violent racism along the border ...

Yes,I agree, but it is not representative of violence in this country overall.

Racist action used to be the rule.

Now it is the exception,by and large.

I cannot be racialist such as you seem to be.   I would hate to think you want to put everyone into a caste system ,and wont follow that example as put forth by the media that white males are all angry racists and must be shunned, or asians must be discriminated against for college admissions,to cites a couple examples.

 

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What does any of that have to do with the topic? Who exactly is your audience here? Me?

I was trying to set up a story about a stone I collected on a journey to El Paso. You insisted on monopolizing the thread with your personal partisan opinions. You need to back up, let others post and let a thread develop without interference.

No one is expecting you to agree with my personal opinions. But I do expect you to butt out and allow me to develop a thread and spin a story without your political posturing.  I'm asking you respectfully and politely and I think you should honor that.

If I say something you disagree with then lets discuss it. But it is a dick move to immediately derail a thread and turn it into something it was never intended to be just for your own personal satisfaction. And that is exactly what you have done here. 

Im asking you politely to back up a bit and give me some room when I post. I insist. I will do the same for you. So why don't we just agree to respect each other's space a bit more?

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On 8/6/2019 at 9:17 PM, Bedrock Bob said:

Stones from the riot that started an American race war would definitely be something to have.

The prospects of that or something similar happening in El Paso tomorrow are very good IMHO. I certainly hope that does  not happen....

 

 

So tell your story,Bob.

I still say you are off  by 100 years in the past and should be in Chicago where the race riot was.

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And I still say you are off topic and don't know when to STFU. :25r30wi:

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You know guys, this whole thing is off topic. We tried to have a forum for this stuff a few years ago but it caught fire and imploded. It caused a lot of unneeded hard feelings. Please leave it here and move on. This is a gold forum first and foremost let's keep it that way. Jump on Facebook if you want to toss bombs (or rocks)…we don't need it here.

Stop.

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5 hours ago, Bedrock Bob said:

What does any of that have to do with the topic? Who exactly is your audience here? Me?

I was trying to set up a story about a stone I collected on a journey to El Paso. You insisted on monopolizing the thread with your personal partisan opinions. You need to back up, let others post and let a thread develop without interference.

No one is expecting you to agree with my personal opinions. But I do expect you to butt out and allow me to develop a thread and spin a story without your political posturing.  I'm asking you respectfully and politely and I think you should honor that.

If I say something you disagree with then lets discuss it. But it is a dick move to immediately derail a thread and turn it into something it was never intended to be just for your own personal satisfaction. And that is exactly what you have done here. 

Im asking you politely to back up a bit and give me some room when I post. I insist. I will do the same for you. So why don't we just agree to respect each other's space a bit more?

That's right. This is bob's forum -- er thread. He writes the rules. 

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2 hours ago, Dakota Slim said:

That's right. This is bob's forum -- er thread. He writes the rules. 

My honest mistake,  It was not my intent to take over, just to respond to Bob's comments.   I did not know this is his blog.

All are now free to respond as my overbearing nature will now refrain from posting in any future Bob'SBlogs.

My sincere apologies to other potential posters that were unable to post.

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29 minutes ago, Stillweaver hillbelli said:

My honest mistake,  It was not my intent to take over, just to respond to Bob's comments.   I did not know this is his blog.

All are now free to respond as my overbearing nature will now refrain from posting in any future Bob'SBlogs.

My sincere apologies to other potential posters that were unable to post.

"That's right. This is bob's forum -- er thread. He writes the rules"

I think Dakota Slim was being a bit facetious. I could be wrong but I don't think anyone missed a chance to post and Flak's attempt at re-direction, may have saved a little spilled beer from turning into bar brawl.

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On ‎8‎/‎8‎/‎2019 at 8:43 PM, Stillweaver hillbelli said:

My honest mistake,  It was not my intent to take over, just to respond to Bob's comments.   I did not know this is his blog.

All are now free to respond as my overbearing nature will now refrain from posting in any future Bob'SBlogs.

My sincere apologies to other potential posters that were unable to post.

Its all good StillHill. Your opinion is always welcomed. You just get a bit carried away. You took the thread in exactly the direction I was trying to avoid and marched on in that direction even after I urged you to stop. Its no big deal. That's just you and that's just fine.

I know you partisan guys get carried away about your politics but everything is not always about politics. The shooting was not about politics. The communities reaction was not about politics. I wanted an opportunity to discuss this as a member of the community rather than from the perspective of a far removed partisan onlooker. I hope you understand how your rapid fire posts from the perspective of a far removed partisan onlooker made that impossible. 

Try to understand that for people in this community what happened is not political.  The media and politicians make it about politics and the partisans can't see beyond that. I wanted to get past that discussion and bring back something real from El Paso. I realize there is no appetite for reality in the political fight and I should have never attempted to offer any. Especially here.

I should have known that there is no way we could ever discuss what actually is happening in El Paso without being sucked into that pit. So we won't! It is as simple as that!

 

 


 

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16 hours ago, Relichunter2016 said:

Bait and switch tactic....love it...Peace to all.

Don't worry. Anything that you catch on bait like this is not fit to eat. I'm just fishing for sport and throwing them back in the lake after I land them. :laught16: 

Shalom, Hare Krishna and Namaste.

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Hey, B. Bob, I am genuinely interested in "what is actually happening in El Paso" ... Can you splain?   Cheers, Unc

 

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15 hours ago, Uncle Ron said:

Hey, B. Bob, I am genuinely interested in "what is actually happening in El Paso" ... Can you splain?   Cheers, Unc

 

Thanks for asking Ron!

Basically what I saw was unity. El Paso came together as a community to be with community. The left and right screamed their frustrations at one another but the partisans shouting about politics were the vast minority. People hyper focused on politics do not represent the people of this country nor El Paso. This was overwhelmingly evident.

For every "liberal" and every "conservative" there were ten non-partisans and five more anti-partisans. The left wanted to talk about the faults of the right and vice versa. But nine out of ten in the crowd wanted to talk about how they BOTH have led us to this point. And how they BOTH played a negative role. And how partisanship itself is more to blame for what is happening than anything else.

The overwhelming thread of common truth that ran through everyone is that we were all targets. Left, right, brown white. We as a country have whined, griped, accused and misrepresented, hated and divided ourselves into a position that is dangerous as hell. And political rhetoric on both sides is fueling it.

Everyone agreed that the community as a whole was a target. But they felt safe in the crowd surrounded by their community. They were all in the streets and they felt safe with their neighbor even after a massacre. Safe enough to go to the streets and speak their mind even if their neighbor disagreed with them. They felt that it was outsiders that brought hate into the community. Not their neighbor that shares a differing viewpoint. They place community over ideology.

I didn't see the lefties calling the righties racists or fascists. These were their neighbors and they knew better. I didn't see right wingers claim that the lefties were open border, communist or "pro criminal". They knew it was not true and they could not accuse them of it when standing face to face. They disagreed and spoke their mind but they did not say the things to each other that is said on the internet. They had to keep it real.

I think it was an excellent exercise for them. They actually communicated. They saw each other as human. Something that people high on extreme politics and typing on the internet generally refuse to do. 

I saw a small fraction of lefties and righties doing what lefties and righties do. And cameras focused on them. Behind them a vast crowd that represented El Paso rather than a political ideology. Independents, Democrats, Republicans, non-partisans, anti-partisans, disenfranchised.... every one a target for hate. Every one a proud member of their community. Every one willing to be tolerant of his neighbors viewpoints even if they disagreed. Every one wishing the partisans on either side would come back from crazytown and allow the majority a voice.

I was going to tell the story of where I collected my rock. Walking back to the truck through the streets of downtown El Paso as the crowd dispersed. And of an old lady with an ice chest with cold water who could not be part of the group because she could not walk along with the crowd. So she brought her ice chest and sat in a spot so she could offer a drink to those walking to and from the gathering. It was a way she could be involved and help. 

In our discussion over a plastic bottle of water I heard her opinion and she heard mine. She offered me a rock because I had not collected one yet. She just picked it up from the ground and handed it to me. Nothing particularly special. A piece of limestone from the Franklin Mountains. But she gave it to me with a smile and made it precious. She would have done that regardless of my color. Regardless of my opinion or politics. She gave it to me because I was part of the community and she trusted me. And those things are a lot more important than ideology. Especially after these murders.

Her opinion was that if the murderer been able to experience a sense of community and fellowship with other humans he would not have been hateful. She said if he had been raised in El Paso he would not have been like that. He may have been a good man if he was from the borderland. If he knew us he would not have hated us. If he had a sense of community he may not have hated at all.

As I walked back through the streets to my truck I wondered about myself and how I would have been different had I been raised in another place without the sense of love and community. What would I have been if racism and hate was tolerated in the place I grew up?  

I thought about how I went in search of a stone hurled in anger and got the opposite. I pondered the value of a stone thrown in a riot as compared to a stone given to me by an old Mexican lady who also gave me a drink and a conversation. I realized that people often have no idea what is precious or valuable if it can't be quantified by an assay. 

So that is the basics of my rock hunt in El Paso. I was going to do a little creative writing using these impressions but instead will just give you the condensed version. 

Thanks for showing an interest Ron. Have a great day and I hope you find a hunk of gold as big as your ol' smelly foot.

Bob

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