Uncle Ron Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 The epicenter of the earthquakes in Kali now is my old hometown of Trona...Tons of mining in the area and I'm wondering if the two faults where the quakes are now might be a good area to prospect...Hotter than hell and you have to dodge military guards in the area since it is a closed naval weapons area...Many of my friends who still live there have had moderate but expensive damage to their homes...Chimneys toppled, rock walls down, roads and highway cracked badly...In the past 30 or so hours there have been more than 200 quakes ... When I grew up there we had one or two quakes every day ... Only those over about 4.5 mag were even noticed by us ... No quakes in the big AZ! ... Cheers, Unc 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Jim Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 I've been through there a few times in the last 10 years, Ron. isn't that where the hs kids play football on a dirt field? Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Ron Posted July 6, 2019 Author Share Posted July 6, 2019 Yes, Jim...My Dad was the football coach in Trona and I played there throughout highschool...That sand (not dirt) field gave us Trona boys a huge advantage ...Imagine playing all your fb games on the beach! ... Loved the town and the people but, sadly, it is in such disrepair it's painful to go there now... Cheers, Unc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Jim Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 yeah, it's difficult to go back to where you were raised. Too many changes from your memories. jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank c Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 I was reading an article that made it sound like Trona took a beating. Showed fires and such damages roads broken apart etc. Not looking too good for So Cal lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Didn't anyone in Arizona feel it? I've felt quakes where the epicenter was 300 miles away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedrock Bob Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 I felt it in New Mexico. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Ron Posted July 6, 2019 Author Share Posted July 6, 2019 Wow...The 7.1 quake destroyed a lot of homes in Trona...Several of my lifelong friends there lost their homes and one friend got hit with a cabinet full of dishes that fell on him and he got cut up pretty bad...People were trying to leave but couldn't because the road out was thrashed, broken up and big boulders blocked it....Serious stuff... Unc 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlakMagnet Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Ron so sorry to hear about Trona. They bore the brunt of the quakes and hardly anyone is talking about it. I wish all the residents well and hope their troubles are over for now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy M Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Ron, my best wishes go out to those affected. During the 1992 Landers 7.9 quake Jeanie and I were in our house when it collapsed around us. Total mess. We were 1/3 mile from the fault line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlakMagnet Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Yeah Jim, I bet that was an eye-opener. It's hard to describe to anyone what being in a big one is like. And certainly the news doesn't really help, it's too sensationalized. Hope all is well with you. David 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desertpilot Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 I used to spend a ton of time in the Panamints and would stop in Trona for gas and lunch. It’s a bummer seeing all the damage. I suppose allot of the places I used to go underground around there are probably collapsed as well. I wonder if the smelter stack at Panamint City survived? The desert around Trona is really cool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlakMagnet Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 I always wanted to detect around there but couldn't find any relevant information. I feel bad for Trona. It had fallen on hard times even before the quake. Now it's in real trouble. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Ron Posted July 10, 2019 Author Share Posted July 10, 2019 The people of Trona had a town hall meeting this AM with local and county bureaucrats and it sounded pretty encouraging, all things considered...It appears there's lot of $$$ available from Feds, State and County to help the people and the town rebuild, hopefully bigger and better than the recent "before"... The politicians were extremely encouraging and made lots of promises and much of the $$$ availability info seems pretty legit ... The most encouraging things folks have heard lately and it seems to have lifted spirits ... Apparently there's beaucoup FEMA funds for local infrastructure and personal regrouping as well! We all hope! Cheers, Unc 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Ron Posted July 11, 2019 Author Share Posted July 11, 2019 On 7/6/2019 at 8:42 AM, Bedrock Bob said: I felt it in New Mexico. I didn't know Carol King was in New Mexico, Bob......Cheers, Unc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedrock Bob Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Uncle Ron said: I didn't know Carol King was in New Mexico, Bob......Cheers, Unc I think the closest she got was Boulder, Colorado back in the 70's. I know I told this story on Nuggetshooter a dozen years ago but here it is again. Just in case someone gets a kick out of it. Back when that big quake hit Japan and melted that nuclear reactor they said the wave travelled across the entire globe. It was a hundred miles wide and a foot tall. They measured the movement of the wave through New Mexico by how much it disrupted the VLA radio telescope west of Soccorro. They said the sphere of the earth grew a foot in diameter at the equator from that quake. It actually changed the length of time it takes the earth to do a full rotation by a nanosecond or so. Right outside the village of Tecolote, east of Santa Fe there is a big sandstone outcrop. Under the huge blocks of stone there is a layer of bright blue clay. The ancients used to dig the clay from under the rocks and made a big overhang. Years later they built a road right by it. Modern potters go there and park on the side of the road and dig at the two foot wide seam of material. Over the centuries the outcrop has been undermined and is a big sandstone overhang running beside the road for several hundred yards. The day the shock wave went through New Mexico there was a group of pottery and ceramic artists from Santa Fe filling buckets with clay. They had just finished grubbing a few buckets each from under the giant blocks of sandstone. These blocks were as big as doublewide mobile homes and had been undermined 10-12 feet. The folks were sitting there on the side of the road having a sandwich and getting ready to drive back to town when two of these giant slabs broke off and slid into the excavation. The sides of those slabs were just inches away from the vehicles parked on the shoulder. I'm talking a 12 foot cliff 40 feet long suddenly breaking off and sliding down the hill. It stopped at the bar ditch. I was driving back from Las Vegas (New Mexico) and was passing that spot a few minutes after the slabs fell. I was listening to the PBS station and they were talking about the quake and the shock wave and all that. There were a dozen people all standing on the road and several cars stopped. It was quite a scene. I am convinced that shock wave gave those big slabs just enough push to collapse. I checked out the reports from the USGS and the stuff at NOAA and the timing was pretty much right on. You gotta figure a big azz vibration like that flowing through the earth is going to knock a lot of stuff loose that is not bolted down right. Anyhoo, as I was driving away they were playing Carole King's tune. I hear that song every time I think of an earthquake now. Hope they get it all squared away in your home town Ron. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlakMagnet Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 yes, Trona needs an uplift but not the earthquake kind. Hoping some of these funds help make their way better and easier, they deserve another chance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakota Slim Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 It's still rocking & rolling over there.https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/ One poor guy in Pahrump had his old jeep up on a jack and blocks when one of the big ones hit and the jeep fell on him and killed him. https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-ridgecrest-earthquakes-death-nevada-20190709-story.html Be careful out there. I had my RV jacked up one time at the Cargo Muchachos and a quake knocked it off the jack. Fortunately I wasn't working on it at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 I'm sorry I didn't see this thread before starting another on the same subject,, Search supervolcano caldera china lake to get an eyefull... It is rocking/ rollin, for sure and it all seems to be concentrated along a line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Ron Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 Wow! The caldera under Trona & China Lake is as big or bigger that the super caldera under Yellowstone, one of largest in the world! Wow! I had no idea I grew up on top of a big bubbling volcano! ...Thanks for sharing that...Cheers, Unc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlakMagnet Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Caldura - a large volcanic crater, especially one formed by a major eruption leading to the collapse of the mouth of the volcano. gulp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedrock Bob Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Are you guys talking about the caldera up by Mammoth? Isn't that one called "Long Valley"? I am not aware of any USGS reports on a caldera under China Lake. Only some theories posted on the internet by Russian trolls. Any talk about a caldera under China Lake is just wild conjecture at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlakMagnet Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Hi Bob, This is from the article I linked below. “The California Volcano Observatory will continue to monitor the situation for any sign of volcanic activity and provide updates as warranted.” The Coso Volcanic Field is on the eastern side of the Sierra Nevada mountains at the northern end of the Mojave Desert, about 40 miles north of Ridgecrest. The field covers roughly 150 square miles, mainly within the Naval Air Weapons Station at China Lake. https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1151965/california-volcano-eruption-california-earthquake-coso-volcanic-field-latest-news-update There are other articles although some are more sensationalistic than others. But from the amount of lava on the surface between Mojave and Bishop, it certainly seems as though this has been an area of huge volcanic activity. Have you seen it? I will try to find more. Best... RELATED ARTICLES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlakMagnet Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 here is the most recent post by usgs on the area https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanoes/coso_volcanic_field/status.html So there is a difference between a caldera and a volcanic field. The Ridgecrest / China Lake area is a volcanic field The area near Mammoth Lakes is a caldera. (the Long Valley Caldera you were speaking of Bob) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 6 hours ago, Bedrock Bob said: Any talk about a caldera under China Lake is just wild conjecture at this point. Da comrade, but there have been earthquaking 500 in the day last in area 40 kilometers by 20 kilometers near , how you say earthquaking headquarters? Dosvidania Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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