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Saw an ad for Saffordite recently. Seems like there's a debate whether they are tektites or just plain obsidian. Modern technology should be able to put this issue to rest. Or maybe it has. Anyone have any opinions as to what these really are.

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Of course the Crystal Gazers and New Agers want them to be cosmic...the less enlightened believe they are earthly...

Almost is not a certainty...

Mike, if you were to venture a scientific guess, what percentage of Certainty would it be?

0 to 100 being the scale

fred

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Obsidian,

Saffordites are a lovely lavender colored natural glass stone found only in one place on Earth. Often called Saffordite tektites or sometimes referred to as Arizona Tektites, they are really members of the obsidian glass family of rocks. Saffordite stones are mysterious in many ways. For example, Saffordite hunting has been enjoyed by many people for years and yet the source where Saffordites originate has never been found. They may have been moved by water many miles during the ages they have been in the ground.

Saffordite (Cintamani Stone)
Saffordites usually have a round or oval shape which supports the idea that they have been tumbled and shaped by agitation in flowing water. The surface of Saffordites is usually pitted with cup-shaped depressions similar to the ones found in tektites. Some Saffordites are gemmy clear and sparkling when held to a light. Other Saffordites are banded or translucent instead of clear. Some are opaque but each type of Saffordite will appear very black when seen without light from behind. When they are viewed with a light from behind they truly show off their inner beauty. The banded Saffordites are often especially interesting when backlit.

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1 hour ago, fredmason said:

Of course the Crystal Gazers and New Agers want them to be cosmic...the less enlightened believe they are earthly...

Almost is not a certainty...

Mike, if you were to venture a scientific guess, what percentage of Certainty would it be?

0 to 100 being the scale

fred

No one asked me, but If they're black, partially transparent, and in the shape of an Indian arrowhead, I would go with just about 100% certainty. I could be wrong of course . . . :)

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3 hours ago, fredmason said:

Of course the Crystal Gazers and New Agers want them to be cosmic...the less enlightened believe they are earthly...

Almost is not a certainty...

Mike, if you were to venture a scientific guess, what percentage of Certainty would it be?

0 to 100 being the scale

fred

I add "almost" because I haven't done all the homework personally, but from everyone I have talked to about them, and everything I've heard about them from those that are way more interested in tektites than I am, I would be at 99 on the scale.

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19 minutes ago, fredmason said:

Thanks,

I wonder if there is a general map of the area? I have a son in Tucson and it seems they aren't very far from there...

fred

Found this but no map.

https://www.vofoundation.org/blog/hunting-for-saffordites-east-of-mt-graham-and-the-vatican-telescope-pt-2/

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7 hours ago, fredmason said:

Thanks,

I wonder if there is a general map of the area? I have a son in Tucson and it seems they aren't very far from there...

fred

Yes they are very close to Tucson, I have a friend who hunts them there with Twink Monrad often.  If you and your son want to go looking shoot me a PM and I'll reach out to him for more specific information.

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They have been dated at 35 million years old. From what I have found makes this the most viable explanation. The saffordite was created when a meteorite slammed into an underwater volcano. Creating WYD variation in specimens collected. And there's no denying the power of the gem as one of the most powerful on Earth.

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To Mikestang - I hunt agates in the E. AZ desert and often stage out of Safford (I live in MN).  I would love to take my grandson out to hunt for Saffordite.  I’ve read all the articles I can find and have a general sense of the hunting area, but like Fred I am looking for more specific directions.  Are you willing/able to help me out?  Eric.

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7 hours ago, Deserthoundaz said:

I hunt Saffordites about 5 days a week. If anybody wants a local to show you around, let me know. 

kenny@saffordites4life.com

Although they can be bought over the internet I would love to find my own maybe this winter Ill look you up when it cools down some-I bought a couple of pieces of moldavite which are green and found only in one place as well-czech very cool looking stone-Thanks for the offer-Mike C...:200:

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1 hour ago, Cecille Price said:

What is the difference between Saffordites and Apache tears?

 

 

Welcome Cecille.

I'll state the obvious - Saffordites are from Safford and Apache Tears are from ... well ...er ... uh .... Apaches?

They are both a form of Obsidian. Obsidian is a naturally occurring mineraloid form of volcanic silica "glass". Some folks like their local obsidian so much they give it a name and praise it's uniqueness. That's all good. I like rocks too.

Not sure about the Apache thing though. My best friend for many years was Apache. He didn't cry tears of volcanic glass but he did say that might have been one of the more southern Apache tribes. He said he heard they messed around with that sort of stuff back in the old days.

 

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