Chris Coffee Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I have been looking around YouTube and other sites trying to get some comparisons between the Advantage and the Evolution coils to no avail. Looking at a couple of dealers sites both models still run pretty much the same price. With the Evo being the new line, shouldn't the Advantage line drop in price? What is the biggest differences between the two? TIA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailertrash Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 54 minutes ago, Chris Coffee said: I have been looking around YouTube and other sites trying to get some comparisons between the Advantage and the Evolution coils to no avail. Looking at a couple of dealers sites both models still run pretty much the same price. With the Evo being the new line, shouldn't the Advantage line drop in price? What is the biggest differences between the two? TIA Hey Chris, you might go directly to Nugget finder's website, and snoop around there. There is a section that explains the difference between flat and spiral windings in the two different coil types. I was just looking at the 15" round Evo. I talked myself right back out of it when I saw the price tag. When I find some gold, and can honestly say I "need" another coil, I might get one. Right now, I am heavy on detectors, and light on the gold. Lol As for the actual "in the field" difference, I have not a clue, but I bet you get some replies from guys who run them. Regards, Kyle 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredmason Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Chris, I am not a dealer and have no dog in the race...my opinion is that there is not much difference in major manufacturer coils...I used coiltek and Nuggetfinder and I ended up using mostly Commander coils by Minelab- and they are usually cheaper. I am not telling what to do or not do, however... I suggest to anyone foolish enough to ask (you didn't) that they don't need more than two or three coils; small, stock and maybe a larger elliptical. Every time new coils come out the new users say they are the best ever, maybe and maybe not. What you need is to put your stock coil on and learn to use it and learn to find gold...new and more coils will not do that. You will do that. If my memory is correct you went through a bunch of detectors and gear and places and did not find much gold...the gold was there you just needed to spend more time learning. Practice, Practice and practice... best wishes fred 7 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Coffee Posted March 22, 2019 Author Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 hour ago, fredmason said: Chris, I am not a dealer and have no dog in the race...my opinion is that there is not much difference in major manufacturer coils...I used coiltek and Nuggetfinder and I ended up using mostly Commander coils by Minelab- and they are usually cheaper. I am not telling what to do or not do, however... I suggest to anyone foolish enough to ask (you didn't) that they don't need more than two or three coils; small, stock and maybe a larger elliptical. Every time new coils come out the new users say they are the best ever, maybe and maybe not. What you need is to put your stock coil on and learn to use it and learn to find gold...new and more coils will not do that. You will do that. If my memory is correct you went through a bunch of detectors and gear and places and did not find much gold...the gold was there you just needed to spend more time learning. Practice, Practice and practice... best wishes fred Hi Fred, your memory is absolutely correct. I went through a lot of stuff that didn't help me one bit... because I didn't know how and where to use them. After reading everybody's replies to my recent questions I have decided that, like you mentioned, I am only going to incorporate 3 coils (technically 4 because of the 2 stock coils). Rob was awesome enough to have a NuggetFinder Sadie coil drop-shipped to me which I received today. So, in addition to those 3 coils, I want to EVENTUALLY add a large elliptical coil to the arsenal. But until that happens I will spend as much time as I can using and learning my machine. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank c Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I just finished "reconditioning" an ol Nuggetfinder 10" fiberglass disk. I came into. I'm actually excited about takin it out for the 1st time. An I'm goin to a place that has had detectors over it since the 1970's. I witnessed a 3.2 DWT. nugget come out of a 24 inch deep hole in a mountain wash a few years back with it. Coils an detectors are like "slot machines" its not the "seat" when ya see someone WINNING, its the ass that's in it . 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nugget108 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Heck yeah, just run the 11 inch commander mono for a while until you get it figured out. Nice and lite and has pretty darn good depth on big gold and surprisingly sensitive to small gold. Then move on if you feel you need to. Good luck. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMc Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 52 minutes ago, fredmason said: Chris, I am not a dealer and have no dog in the race...my opinion is that there is not much difference in major manufacturer coils...I used coiltek and Nuggetfinder and I ended up using mostly Commander coils by Minelab- and they are usually cheaper. I am not telling what to do or not do, however... I suggest to anyone foolish enough to ask (you didn't) that they don't need more than two or three coils; small, stock and maybe a larger elliptical. Every time new coils come out the new users say they are the best ever, maybe and maybe not. What you need is to put your stock coil on and learn to use it and learn to find gold...new and more coils will not do that. You will do that. If my memory is correct you went through a bunch of detectors and gear and places and did not find much gold...the gold was there you just needed to spend more time learning. Practice, Practice and practice... best wishes fred Could be the best "advice" you could get on this or any other forum. You can only gear up so much, until you risk becoming psychologically dependent on the next new thing syndrome. In general, what I have found a need for in a detector/coil package is the potential for reasonable depth capability, and a good ability to handle mineralization. That's the basics (at least for me) A PI, a VLF, and about 3 coils, (as Fred suggested) A lot of other factors may come into play depending upon the individual, but Fred's take on the subject is spot on. Keep in mind that successful gold hunters in the past learned to use the gear they had. Many, only had one detector and one coil but they usually invested considerable time in learning how and where to waive the coil they had. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlakMagnet Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I agree with BMc, that is a great bit of advice from Fred. The stock Minelab coil is an amazingly good coil. Don't make the mistake of thinking the latest coil will be the thing that finds you gold. That will not be what finds gold. It will be your ability to correctly use any coil, on the right ground that is holding gold, using a well-tuned and correctly set-up detector. Oh and patience really helps. Best of luck, it will happen. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldseeker4000 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Hey trailertrash, flat and spiral wound coils are the same thing. The one it is compared to that came before it is bundle wound. NuggetFinder coils, both the advantage line and the evo line use litz wire which is a higher quality wire which will get you more sensitivity. The spiral (flat) winding is laid down in a side by side manner and will gain you greater depth and will again increase your sensitivity. The one minor drawback of spiral wound coils is it does not pinpoint like a bundle wound coil with a sweetspot on the edge. It will be in the center of the coil. If my memory is correct coiltek also runs litz wire on the elite coils as well in edition to the new spiral (flat) winding. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailertrash Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Goldseeker4000 said: Hey trailertrash, flat and spiral wound coils are the same thing. The one it is compared to that came before it is bundle wound. NuggetFinder coils, both the advantage line and the evo line use litz wire which is a higher quality wire which will get you more sensitivity. The spiral (flat) winding is laid down in a side by side manner and will gain you greater depth and will again increase your sensitivity. The one minor drawback of spiral wound coils is it does not pinpoint like a bundle wound coil with a sweetspot on the edge. It will be in the center of the coil. If my memory is correct coiltek also runs litz wire on the elite coils as well in edition to the new spiral (flat) winding. I will amend my terminology accordingly. Ten years in the gun business, and I visibly cringe when I hear the term "clip" used to describe a magazine... Thanks for the heads up. Lol Regards, Kyle 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nugget108 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, Trailertrash said: I will amend my terminology accordingly. Ten years in the gun business, and I visibly cringe when I hear the term "clip" used to describe a magazine... Thanks for the heads up. Lol Regards, Kyle Haha the dreaded "clip" term. I hear ya. The 15 inch evo is an amazing coil. Its amazing the size of crumbs it will find. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike C... Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Just my 2 cents the new coils are better than any boat anchor commander coils-Are they worth the high price tag thats up to you everything in this hobby is expensive - In my book they are if they offer any more depth and sensitivity advantage over stock or previous aftermarket coils and they definitely do Ive used both the Coiltek elites and the NF evos the elites seem more sensitive but are heavier than the evos but the evos seem built better both have good depth -all it takes is 1 mm of depth better than the previous series of coils to find a target everyone else walked over because they didnt hear it-do you want to be that one.Some food for thought Mike C... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldseeker4000 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Thats so true Mike. That tiny fraction of depth can and will make a huge differance of hearing a nugget or not. And when you think of every pass of the coil scanning over a millimeter or half an inch of ground, the accumulation of detectable material adds up quick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nugget Shooter Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 I run mostly Minelab coils on my Minelab's..... My 2 aftermarket are NF..... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relichunter2016 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Have not had one coil not find me gold ....for the exception of one my 15" Detech DD and that was because I have not put a nugget under it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Furness Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Just for the record If anyone is wondering if I am not running the 8" Commander on my GPX5000 I will be running a 14" NF Advantage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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