nugz 4 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Dear community, Some of you are experts in this field, I would kindly ask who can help me identify the type of meteorite I have. Some information that might help: 1) The meteorite is way heavier then usual stone 2) Its super durable, took 1 hour to cut it and doesn't crack at all... 3) Magnet doesn't get very attracted to it 4) It sounds funny when you hit it to the ground, sounds like the crash cymbal from drums.. sort of please let me know your thoughts, thanks in advance! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
4meter 191 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Its not a meteorite. Looks like a rock with a patina of limonite around it, and some magnesium/manganese "dendrites" on the whitish surface. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nugz 4 Posted February 27, 2019 Author Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) So why does it then fit the specifications of a meteorite? It was found in water/near water. Edited February 27, 2019 by nugz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IDdesertman 323 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 What are the specifications that indicate it is a meteorite? Is it the 4 points listed above? I am not a meteorite expert, but I am certain that being heavy/durable and "sounding funny" when it hits the ground are not quite enough to verify a meteorite. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Morlock 1,624 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Not a meteorite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nugz 4 Posted February 27, 2019 Author Share Posted February 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, Morlock said: Not a meteorite. Ok, thanks for the information Morlock, what is your conclusion? why is it not a meteorite? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
adam 3,120 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 5 hours ago, nugz said: 1) The meteorite is way heavier then usual stone 2) Its super durable, took 1 hour to cut it and doesn't crack at all... 3) Magnet doesn't get very attracted to it 4) It sounds funny when you hit it to the ground, sounds like the crash cymbal from drums.. sort of Your description is perfect for a Diamond. Its likely a Diamond and not a meteorite. 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BMc 1,025 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 8 hours ago, nugz said: Dear community, Some of you are experts in this field, I would kindly ask who can help me identify the type of meteorite I have. Some information that might help: 1) The meteorite is way heavier then usual stone 2) Its super durable, took 1 hour to cut it and doesn't crack at all... 3) Magnet doesn't get very attracted to it 4) It sounds funny when you hit it to the ground, sounds like the crash cymbal from drums.. sort of please let me know your thoughts, thanks in advance! Looks like Chert. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nugz 4 Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 5 hours ago, adam said: Your description is perfect for a Diamond. Its likely a Diamond and not a meteorite. What value does it have if its a diamond? Also, do you want a full photo of the rock? maybe you get better idea of how it looks like? It way bigger, 5-7kg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Morlock 1,624 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 3 hours ago, nugz said: What value does it have if its a diamond? It's NOT a diamond. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nugz 4 Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 24 minutes ago, Morlock said: It's NOT a diamond. So, Not a meteorite, It's NOT a diamond... then what is it? if its not not? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Morlock 1,624 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 58 minutes ago, nugz said: So, Not a meteorite, It's NOT a diamond... then what is it? if its not not? It's called leaverite and worth absolutely nothing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BMc 1,025 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Google: Chert, Flint and Chalcedony CHERT: Chert is a hard, fine-grained sedimentary rock composed of crystals of quartz (silica) that varies greatly in color. Cherts are tough, compact rocks with low porosity. Chert may be colored brown by clay minerals as well as iron oxides. (brown tones are due to hematite) A larger proportion of clay may affect chert's luster, making it appear dull. At that point it starts to resemble chocolate. Chert has four diagnostic features: the waxy luster and conchoidal (shell-shaped) fracture of the silica mineral chalcedony that composes it, a hardness of 7 on the Mohs scale, and a smooth (non-clastic) sedimentary texture. In re: to tone/color: http://meteorite-identification.com From Wikipedia: Hematite, a very common meteor-wrong, is the mineral form of Iron(III) oxide (Fe2O3), one of several iron oxides. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bedrock Bob 3,905 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Yeah, it is obviously a hematitic chertolith Or a chertoloidal hematolith Possibly a petrified poodle turd left by Spanish masons to mark a treasure cache. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
4meter 191 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 There is a forum of meteorite hunters on this web site. They would be a good source of info about what properties make a meteorite a meteorite. There are also many good, academic sources on the web about meteorites. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nugz 4 Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 This is the full stone, this shape is not natural.. it can't be the stuff you guys suggest, they look different. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Morlock 1,624 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 That looks like water worn jasper. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nugz 4 Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 hours ago, BMc said: Google: Chert, Flint and Chalcedony CHERT: Chert is a hard, fine-grained sedimentary rock composed of crystals of quartz (silica) that varies greatly in color. Cherts are tough, compact rocks with low porosity. Chert may be colored brown by clay minerals as well as iron oxides. (brown tones are due to hematite) A larger proportion of clay may affect chert's luster, making it appear dull. At that point it starts to resemble chocolate. Chert has four diagnostic features: the waxy luster and conchoidal (shell-shaped) fracture of the silica mineral chalcedony that composes it, a hardness of 7 on the Mohs scale, and a smooth (non-clastic) sedimentary texture. In re: to tone/color: http://meteorite-identification.com From Wikipedia: Hematite, a very common meteor-wrong, is the mineral form of Iron(III) oxide (Fe2O3), one of several iron oxides. I posted full image, far from what you show me there, not same color tone, not that type of shape. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nugz 4 Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, Morlock said: That looks like water worn jasper. It is the same thing you said its leaverite, so now its jasper water worn? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hardtimehermit 499 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, nugz said: It is the same thing you said its leaverite, so now its jasper water worn? Hey Mr. nugz, the point is that jasper is not as valuable as a meteorite. Nice piece of jasper though, if you were a rock hound you would be excited. If you want more action from the rest of the meteorite gang then post your pictures in the meteorite thread zone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Morlock 1,624 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, nugz said: It is the same thing you said its leaverite, so now its jasper water worn? You posted two different pictures. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nugz 4 Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, hardtimehermit said: Hey Mr. nugz, the point is that jasper is not as valuable as a meteorite. Nice piece of jasper though, if you were a rock hound you would be excited. If you want more action from the rest of the meteorite gang then post your pictures in the meteorite thread zone. What is the worth of the jasper? why should I be excited for common stone? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BMc 1,025 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, nugz said: What is the worth of the jasper? why should I be excited for common stone? You shouldn't. That's what everyone is, (gently, sort of), trying to tell you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BMc 1,025 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 hours ago, nugz said: This is the full stone, this shape is not natural.. it can't be the stuff you guys suggest, they look different. Chalcedony and Chert: Micro crystalline Varieties of Quartz. ... While some chalcedony is valued as a collector specimen, not all chalcedony or chert is gem quality, as is the case with all minerals and rocks. If the micro crystalline specimen is red, green, or landscape-looking, it is called jasper. Flint Is A Variety of Chert. Although there is a lot of confusion on this, chert refers to crypto crystalline or poly crystalline quartz that usually forms as nodules in limestone. Flint is reserved for such material that forms in chalk or marl. Flint is simply a type of chert. Visual identification of a mineral specimen is often difficult. So you can't go on looks alone. That's why there are specific tests that have been formulated for this purpose. Do the research. It takes only seconds to see that there are many, many, varieties and appearances of Chert, Jasper and Flint. Dozens of photographs of each are available on the internet. Many if not most, look different. Your's is a nice looking specimen and may have value as a collector's piece. If not, at least it would make an attractive doorstop. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BMc 1,025 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 hours ago, nugz said: I posted full image, far from what you show me there, not same color tone, not that type of shape. You are mis-reading the post. 1)The point was, (to help with identification) hematite is stated to be the possible reason that your Jasper/Chert is brown, which was the color of the original mineral specimen you posted. Of course it's not the same shape . . . they come in all different shapes and sizes! And the depiction of the hematite mass is to show what hematite looks like (it's brown in the photo) and to GIVE YOU THE LINK SO YOU COULD DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH AND PROVE TO YOURSELF THAT IT'S NOT, NOT, A METEORITE!! (Please use the link!) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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