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Anyone have a good email address for Bedrock Bob? Been years since I've been in contact.  

Also, is Glorieta still a hot spot? I've noticed there are no more vids on YouTube of Glorieta hunts.  There used to be quite a few years ago.  Not many recent posts on here either like there used to be.  It's been years since I've been on here.  Thx

 

 

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Even though Bob is not able to log-in on the forum he still has a profile here and I see he has visited the forum just before Christmas on the 17th.

I will send you a PM with his last known email address.

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Molegar, where are you from? I hunted Glorieta years ago, neighbors started to become not so friendly... A lot of private property. One of the funnest places I have hunted though... I used to have a friend over there we would meet up with. I would like to talk more if you have time, Bill

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We are friends of the landowners on Glorieta and will probably hunt there this summer by invitation. Unfortunately too many meteorite hunters have hunted the private lands there without permission in the past. Disrespect of property rights is frowned upon.

There is now a lot of suspicion of anyone traveling or hunting there without a local. A lot has changed in that area over the last 15 years or so and the Grantees aren't as tolerant of uninvited visitors as they once were. The Sheriff needs those local's votes so he can stay in office and the Judge is elected by those same people. They understand the feelings of the people who own the land there and take trespassing complaints by them seriously.

The alternative to that system would be much more unpleasant so sneaking around those property owners would be a poor choice - better to face the Sheriff than Los Hermanos. If you want to hunt Gloreita these days it's best if you have a personal invitation. The people there are generally friendly and if you speak high Spanish and show respect for the Penitente culture you probably won't have too much problem getting an invite.

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Would you try walking up driveways and knocking on doors? I went up there looking to get permission on property but all of the driveways i encountered were gated. I spoke to a deputy too but he didn't have any pointers. I know where the strewn field is at I just don't want to trespass. I live in Albuquerque so I'm pretty close to it. 

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On 1/12/2018 at 5:18 PM, bryanbarnes said:

Would you try walking up driveways and knocking on doors? I went up there looking to get permission on property but all of the driveways i encountered were gated. I spoke to a deputy too but he didn't have any pointers. I know where the strewn field is at I just don't want to trespass. I live in Albuquerque so I'm pretty close to it. 

If I really wanted to get permission, I would simply take the addresses down and write each of the property owners a letter. That's about all I can think of.

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Hey, new to the forum. Just wondering if there was anyone local who knows the area and was willing to take a couple of us from Abq to the area. I know the the terrain sucks, etc. We've been up around the area on the BLM side and found some interesting fragments, but would be nice to have someone who knows the area (or better, some of the local land owners).

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The "BLM side"?

Which side would that be? Glorieta is many miles from any BLM land.

 

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No one has mentioned the artillery duel that was fought at Glorietta. Anybody finding any artillery shrapnel or artifacts from the battle?

I recall a detector sales shop in the NE Heights where the owner had quite a collection of cannonballs etc.

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2 hours ago, Edge said:

No one has mentioned the artillery duel that was fought at Glorietta. Anybody finding any artillery shrapnel or artifacts from the battle?

I recall a detector sales shop in the NE Heights where the owner had quite a collection of cannonballs etc.

You are so right Edge. No one has mentioned the battlefield or spoken about cannonballs and shrapnel.

No one has mentioned the pet bears that Glorieta is famous for either. For years there was a family of tame black bears that would interact with humans at a roadside attraction right next to the highway. Back in the days of Route 66 hundreds of thousands of travelers passed through there and saw the bears. It was on Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom for chrissake!

And then there are the Spanish ruins built over the old Kiva where they worshipped a giant snake. Nobody mentions that either. You know they sold slaves there in the colonization period? The tribes would sell their captives back to the families they stole them from at a big auction there. What rich history and no one seems to care!

They have the big Baptist Centre at Glorieta. The biggest private firearm collection on display anywhere is there. One of the highest lesbian populations per capita too. None of this gets any mention at all on this forum.

All they want to talk about is the stupid fist sized pallasites worth millions of dollars laying around in the woods like chunks of steel fruitcake just waiting to be picked up. :idunno:

People are tough to figure these days buddy. I don't think most of them have their heads screwed on straight sometimes. Its just not like it used to be huh?

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31 minutes ago, Bedrock Bob said:

You are so right Edge. No one has mentioned the battlefield or spoken about cannonballs and shrapnel.

No one has mentioned the pet bears that Glorieta is famous for either. For years there was a family of tame black bears that would interact with humans at a roadside attraction right next to the highway. Back in the days of Route 66 hundreds of thousands of travelers passed through there and saw the bears. It was on Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom for chrissake!

And then there are the Spanish ruins built over the old Kiva where they worshipped a giant snake. Nobody mentions that either. You know they sold slaves there in the colonization period? The tribes would sell their captives back to the families they stole them from at a big auction there. What rich history and no one seems to care!

They have the big Baptist Centre at Glorieta. The biggest private firearm collection on display anywhere is there. One of the highest lesbian populations per capita too. None of this gets any mention at all on this forum.

All they want to talk about is the stupid fist sized pallasites worth millions of dollars laying around in the woods like chunks of steel fruitcake just waiting to be picked up. :idunno:

People are tough to figure these days buddy. I don't think most of them have their heads screwed on straight sometimes. Its just not like it used to be huh?

Wow, so much history there. Thanks for help keeping it alive, Bob. The bear story sounds familiar, maybe I watched Marlin wrestle one when I was a kid?

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There is a strewn field map of the area, held by certain old time meteorite hunters. A lot of videos on the area were removed back in the day when the blm was threatening regulations/ taxing meteorites, and there was even a raid on a certain meteorite dealer. Since all that happened years ago, its been tight lipped since.

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I"m just going off the original publications. No idea if I'm in the "right" area, but recovered a few small Iron fragments that arn't magnetite. Sent a few pics over to UNM; waiting to hear back. I also use a landowner map app, so I got a pretty precise location of the property line patchwork. Again, we're probably going to go back to hunt around more, whenever the weather warms up a bit, if anyone cares to join.

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7 hours ago, lceman said:

I"m just going off the original publications. No idea if I'm in the "right" area, but recovered a few small Iron fragments that arn't magnetite. Sent a few pics over to UNM; waiting to hear back. I also use a landowner map app, so I got a pretty precise location of the property line patchwork. Again, we're probably going to go back to hunt around more, whenever the weather warms up a bit, if anyone cares to join.

Ill give you this much...

If your land ownership app is showing any BLM land near the spot you are in the wrong county.

If the "fragments" you are finding are not obviously meteorites you have not found Glorieta. There are no pieces of this meteorite that leave any doubt about where they came from. If you find one you will know it. If there is any doubt about it you have not found one.

Contacting UNM about Glorieta is like asking the wolf's opinion on how the chicken tastes.

If you find even one small piece of this meteorite you are trespassing. There is no chance that you are going to get permission to hunt any private land there and there is no chance that you are going to find any meteorites on land that you do not have to gain permission to legally hunt. 

You can get help, info and even exact locations for (almost) every other gold and meteorite location in the state. Learn your stuff at another location and then tackle Glorieta when you are prepared. 

Go to Holbrook. Then search for a piece of the Willard meteorite. Then head over to Lea or Roosevelt county and hunt some blowouts. If you can show that you have learned this much you will be a lot more likely to get help with Glorieta. Otherwise you will be regarded as just another hobbyist that wants to tackle the big one without the time and knowledge invested.

Just my two cents Iceman. You gotta learn to walk before you can run. No one who has conquered Glorieta is going to give you any info because they had to spend hundreds of hours and pay those dues themselves. Until you pay yours this post is as much info as you are going to get.

Good luck man. 

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9 hours ago, lceman said:

I"m just going off the original publications. No idea if I'm in the "right" area, but recovered a few small Iron fragments that arn't magnetite. Sent a few pics over to UNM; waiting to hear back. I also use a landowner map app, so I got a pretty precise location of the property line patchwork. Again, we're probably going to go back to hunt around more, whenever the weather warms up a bit, if anyone cares to join.

Please post pics of these iron fragments.

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On 2/7/2019 at 8:30 PM, Bedrock Bob said:

They have the big Baptist Centre at Glorieta. The biggest private firearm collection on display anywhere is there. One of the highest lesbian populations per capita too. None of this gets any mention at all on this forum.

 

Funny stuff......

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2 hours ago, middleforkminer2 said:

Funny stuff......

No dancing, gun packing, stinky fingered stuff I'm tellin' ya... I enjoyed my time immensely in Glorieta. I lived there for a year in a guest house before purchasing property a few miles to the east on the rim of the Freckle River canyon.

Did you know Glorieta Mesa is the longest contiguous mesa in North America? It runs east and west for over 30 miles. It is often considered the terminus of the Rocky Mountains. It was here that Lincoln LaPaz observed the flying green lights. It is here where the Dali Lama hid during his exile. It is here where Demi Moore was jailed for public indecency for pushing her bare boobs against the glass window of a liquor store (it was 12 degrees at the time).

There are a half dozen ancient pueblos here. The Spanish called them "Pecos" which means "freckle". Because when the Spanish bred with them the mixed children (and adults) were often freckled. They worshipped a giant snake and had human sacrifice in addition to having spots after breeding with the Spanish. 

Consequently everything is named Freckle. The Freckle River originates in the Sangre De Christo Mountians just below Freckle Peak. Freckle Canyon is famous for residents like Val Kilmer, and Jane Fonda. The Freckle River flows all the way through New Mexico and ends way down in Freckle, Texas. The entire area is known as the Freckle River Basin.

You may have heard of the tales of Freckle Bill and his blue ox Babe? His wife was named Slue-Foot Sue and she rode a big catfish down the Rio Grande. Big wide hips. No freckles. Wore a lot of bouncy petticoats. Maybe you have heard of them?

…Oh yeah, I almost forgot. A meteorite fell there. A pallasite. When sliced it looks like a steel fruitcake. Nicely patterned pieces can be worth a thousand bucks for a slice a bit bigger than a postage stamp. Real prospector porn I'm tellin' ya. :4chsmu1:

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If there's something you don't know or haven't done....it would surprise me....

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You said it, middleforkminer2 . When a man seems to be part Rambo and part Dali Lama you never know whats going to happen next. :brows:

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On 2/6/2019 at 5:55 PM, Bedrock Bob said:

The "BLM side"?

Which side would that be? Glorieta is many miles from any BLM land.

 

Sorry meant NF, not BLM.

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Waiting to get some time on an SEM to get the EDX analysis on that filed off spot.

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Glad everyone finds my posts so amusing. Maybe I am just a newbie wasting my time swinging my coil around in the forest, but so what, its just up the road from me.

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1 hour ago, lceman said:

Glad everyone finds my posts so amusing. Maybe I am just a newbie wasting my time swinging my coil around in the forest, but so what, its just up the road from me.

Did I miss something? Didn't see any posts making fun of yours.

Good luck

Tim

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1 hour ago, lceman said:

Seems that just attempting Glorieta gets the jokes going. 

Once you have had the experiences that we have had then you will understand the humor.

I hate to tell you but your specimen is not a Glorieta. 

You asked for an inroad to Glorieta and I gave you sound advice instead. I'm sorry it was not what you wanted or expected. But it is as good as you are going to get.

The shortest route to success in this hobby is the route I laid out in my post. It is the shortest route to Glorieta as well although not a direct one. That is just the way it is. 

If you want to scour the ground in the NF somewhere for a Glorieta you can do that but I can assure you it will only make you see the humor in our posts more clearly. It will not, however yield any meteorites. 

If ever you decide to actually locate and hunt a strewn field and learn a bit about meteorites then feel free to ask. Glorieta is the only one you will not be able to find cooperation on.

This isn't about you my friend. Please don't take it personally.

Post your finds and if you do find one on NF land I will drive up to Albucrazy and buy you a drink. Heck I will buy you six. You will have earned them!

Good luck Mr. Ice.

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