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You can still hydraulic mine in California Chris. There never was a time when you couldn't. I don't know when that rumor got started but it seems one of those "every one knows" things that isn't true.

Dredging in California is awaiting a permit system. I know a lot of people who won't wait for the State and have been dredging for years. There is basically no enforcement at this point unless you get very public.

I'm not seeing any mining company getting serious in California for now. They don't want to hydraulic or dredge mine but California doesn't care what it costs the miners in time or money to get their permits. Not many miners today that are willing to wait years to begin mining. Better opportunities elsewhere, like Nevada or Arizona.

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I find it funny for some reason....the media advertises or does a story about the " New Gold Rush in California " when California governemnt has totally destroyed mining. They should be asking Sacramento why they are bowing down to the extreme leftist tree huggers instead of creating illusions of grandeur based on lies. No you cannot dredge, nor can you highbank near most streams or rivers without being hassled by forest service or blm rangers.... 

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Clay, I would like your post, but I can't figure that out either.  I had no idea people were dredging.  My only experience in California with mining is the San Gabriel River.

I wonder how much the equipment alone for hydraulic mining would cost.  Interesting.

I have a feeling the tides are changing and we may see the permit system for dredging come though in the next three years.  My biggest indicator about whether that will be held up in court or not will be whatever comes of the National Monument study sent to the Secretary of the Interior.  If they truly revoke national monument status / pursuit and revert the land back to the states, that would tell me its a possibility.

 

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They edited out all references to AMRA and the anti-mining stance of the state, and were careful to only show Shannon using a pan - no machines. Nothing the green meanies can say about a plastic pan, and NBC can now say they have been "balanced" in their coverage. LMAO, and crying at the same time. :idunno:

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2 hours ago, Terry Soloman said:

They edited out all references to AMRA and the anti-mining stance of the state, and were careful to only show Shannon using a pan - no machines. Nothing the green meanies can say about a plastic pan, and NBC can now say they have been "balanced" in their coverage. LMAO, and crying at the same time. :idunno:

That left me scratching my head too, Terry.. At first I'm like: "Hey! That's Shannon..!" But as the piece rolls on I start thinking it makes no sense cos Shannon isn't gonna do fluff, especially for something that seems to have no real point much less not correct injustices..

Which makes me wonder who approached whom, what was promised vs what was aired -- and if Shannon will have the unedited piece posted on his site so we can see what the 'interview' was really supposed to be about, assuming he even has raw copy to begin with..

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After watching that all I can think about is how many hundreds of ignorant folks are going to hit the hills in search of their riches.  The same thing happens with all the Metal detector Shows.  They get out there not having a clue about the Laws or  Etiquette's involved and cause a stink...

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2 hours ago, homefire said:

After watching that all I can think about is how many hundreds of ignorant folks are going to hit the hills in search of their riches.  The same thing happens with all the Metal detector Shows.  They get out there not having a clue about the Laws or  Etiquette's involved and cause a stink...

True..........but it sure increases sales.....:brows:

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No wonder you here some say they moved out of California, to places such as Nevada to have it better for gold prospecting or mining. The person I was thinking about, recently looking at his profile, claimed about 3  lbs gold yearly...probably stretching it some.

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21 hours ago, clay said:

I'm not seeing any mining company getting serious in California for now. They don't want to hydraulic or dredge mine but California doesn't care what it costs the miners in time or money to get their permits. Not many miners today that are willing to wait years to begin mining. Better opportunities elsewhere, like Nevada or Arizona.

Clay I ask because you are the most knowledgeable one I know on this sunject.

You really think there's better opportunities in AZ?  Is that for gold or for other minerals?  Also for smaller operations, or larger ones.

The stuff put out by the state says there is commercial gold production in AZ, but only as a byproduct of copper production.  I realize you add all the gold people are finding off the forum, and it probably is pounds, but still not a commercial operation.  The few commercial operations I've seen have been completely idle when I went through.  One was at the ghost town in the agua fria river south of Black Canyon City, and the other was out by the LSD.  They both had equipment, but idle equipment makes no money.

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15 hours ago, Red_desert said:

No wonder you here some say they moved out of California, to places such as Nevada to have it better for gold prospecting or mining...claimed about 3  lbs gold yearly...

This would make for an interesting comparison-and-contrast study..

In AZ in 2016 if you had the "worst gold" and sold all 3 lb the "worst possible way," that's approx $36,000.00 gross.. Is this a 'good' living or 'bad' living..? Depends on many factors, doesn't it..?

Here's a comparison point: In the latter 1980s I had a higher-end blue-collar job at just under $14/hr or about 34K/yr before overtime, of which there was much.. Along with that came good medical, ehhh dental, one-to-two retirement fund matching up to 12% and industry standard vacation / sick / personal days, none of which Mr 3 lb gold had.. I was single at this time..

I also had a small house with appropriately burdensome mortgage, a paid for older but dependable car and a paid for older dependable motorcycle..

I felt like I was "doing ok," because in the hourly world of blue-collar at the time there really wasn't too much left $-wise above what I was doing/making except for dangerous work; IT was barely a thing then..

On one hand there's much to be said about not having to punch a time clock as with Mr 3 lb gold.. On the other there's much to be said about knowing when and how much at minimum your next check is going to be.. This can easily be interpreted as a security vs freedom trade-off.. And this is thirty years ago..

Present day touchstones: Lower-end = fast food manager; upper-end = some sort of tec specialist in the world of computers / communications..

Bottom line: It takes cojones to prospect full time..

Swamp
 

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You need to live where full time prospecting is possible also...of course it won't be easy. I've seen recently, a confession on the Australia gold forum, the person finally admitted going 1 whole year of no-gold.

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29 minutes ago, Red_desert said:

You need to live where full time prospecting is possible also...of course it won't be easy. I've seen recently, a confession on the Australia gold forum, the person finally admitted going 1 whole year of no-gold.

WOW...... After learning? Or Newbie? Took me a year 1989 or 90 then all good from there....

 

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On 9/25/2017 at 8:54 PM, Bill Southern said:

WOW...... After learning? Or Newbie? Took me a year 1989 or 90 then all good from there....

 

Not a Newbie, it was a lady who was there long before I joined the forum. She must be smart, I'm thinking her and a couple others lost their job where her job had been the manager. Apparently this lady must have tried some full time prospecting a short while, others invited her after posting the thread. Who wouldn't want a female partner to hunt gold with? If a person only swings a coil, you need to put that coil where gold is large enough and detectable depth.

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Every few years they come up with a slightly different title for the same story.  Funny how that rain brings out the Gold Stories but now it can't rain without bringing out the Climate Change/Global Warming stories.

Here is what was said in 1993:

http://articles.latimes.com/1993-04-25/news/mn-27263_1_gold-rush

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