Rebel73153 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 In my ongoing Quest for that First Elusive nugget i took the TDI SL with a Miner John 5"x9" coil and went to a local gold producing river today. Sorry to say still No Nugget but i got enough fishing lead to cast a few bullets. Some of these were Really small split shot and bird shot so i know i am doing something right. Just got to find a piece of Yellow stuff to put the coil over. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortuga Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 If you're finding lead and you're in a gold producing creek, the nuggets won't be far behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nugget Shooter Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Yep agreed, keep at it. Funny thing is after the first one it seems somehow easier to find nuggets..... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel73153 Posted September 16, 2017 Author Share Posted September 16, 2017 Boy that First one is playing Hard to get. lol 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nugget Shooter Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Took me a year..... yep.... Darn thing was in my own drywash pile at the end of the day. I would detect and find the normal crap and give up and go drywash. Read Jim Straight's Nugget Shooters Bible so I always checked my own tailing pile and BAM right on top at the end of the day, about 2 grams and slid right into the header pile. That was in 1993 and never looked back, then I found Minelab. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno Chris Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 I took a friend out for a couple days in central Nevada to some hard rock mines (just got back). He got his first gold specimen with a GB2 within a couple hours, several more afterward and some more really nice ones today. Getting the right training and being in the right place makes all the difference. Bill supplies the right training to those who buy their detectors from him. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 5 hours ago, Reno Chris said: Getting the right training and being in the right place makes all the difference. Bill supplies the right training to those who buy their detectors from him. Getting the right training is the easy part.. Finding the right place is infinitely more difficult. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike C... Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 How about Luck being a big factor as well Mike C... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel73153 Posted September 17, 2017 Author Share Posted September 17, 2017 I could sure use some of that "Right Training" and definitely the "Right Place" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno Chris Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Morlock said: Finding the right place is infinitely more difficult. 2 hours ago, Rebel73153 said: and definitely the "Right Place" Gold is rare stuff, which is why its so valuable. That's the hard part of learning to be a prospector and find gold - there is just not that much of it out there. Your detector is a great tool, and tells you when you are over gold, but you have to find that gold. No detector can find gold if it isn't there to begin with. So you as the prospector have to find that rare yellow metal, and your detector will signal you when you get there. Prospecting is very definitely a skill that is learned and it takes time. Sure there is a luck factor, but I'd rather count on knowledge, skill and experience - they are a lot more reliable than plain dumb luck. Edited September 17, 2017 by Reno Chris 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredmason Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Yeah, I have plenty of plain dumb.. luck is way harder to get... As Mike C probably knows luck increases with the right skills, knowledge and location.. fred 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel73153 Posted September 17, 2017 Author Share Posted September 17, 2017 Location,location, location!!! That is what it all comes down to in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyy Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 5 hours ago, Reno Chris said: Gold is rare stuff, which is why its so valuable. That's the hard part of learning to be a prospector and find gold - there is just not that much of it out there. Your detector is a great tool, and tells you when you are over gold, but you have to find that gold. No detector can find gold if it isn't there to begin with. So you as the prospector have to find that rare yellow metal, and your detector will signal you when you get there. Prospecting is very definitely a skill that is learned and it takes time. Sure there is a luck factor, but I'd rather count on knowledge, skill and experience - they are a lot more reliable than plain dumb luck. What is that saying... "Luck favors the prepared mind" .... I'd say yeah it does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desertpilot Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) Rebel, What has worked for me is hitting the books and finding areas that have historically had nugget gold. Most streams run fine gold and if you can one that has a history of nugget gold your chances increase. Take a look at old usgs bulletins and you should be able to find what your looking for. Another thing that has worked for me is to work the edges of a known deposit, some times you can find a overlooked pocket. DP Edited September 17, 2017 by Desertpilot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike C... Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 5 hours ago, Reno Chris said: Gold is rare stuff, which is why its so valuable. That's the hard part of learning to be a prospector and find gold - there is just not that much of it out there. Your detector is a great tool, and tells you when you are over gold, but you have to find that gold. No detector can find gold if it isn't there to begin with. So you as the prospector have to find that rare yellow metal, and your detector will signal you when you get there. Prospecting is very definitely a skill that is learned and it takes time. Sure there is a luck factor, but I'd rather count on knowledge, skill and experience - they are a lot more reliable than plain dumb luck. Hey Chris Im sure youve heard the story of the tongue nugget found around rich hill by a couple from Colorado who had never swung a beeper before If that wasnt pure dumb luck then what was it ? Theres plenty of stories floating around just like that - So I agree not to agree with you Mike C... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Ron Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) The tongue nugget opened up a patch that produced many ounces of gold...The tongue nugget was in a big old tailing pile out off Angel's Road...Cheers, Unc Edited September 17, 2017 by Uncle Ron 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno Chris Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 If prospecting was all or nearly all nothing but luck, then inexperienced new guys would be just as productive as guys with decades of experience, and as you well know it just aint that way. On any one day, who knows what will happen and the newbie might well do better than the experienced guy, but over the long haul the guys who know what they are doing will do much, much better. For every story of some new guy who made a great find, I can tell you 10 stories (or maybe 100) of guys who had no idea what they were doing, went out expecting to get loads of gold and come home with nothing or nearly nothing. I've been eyewitness to a good number of them. No one even bothers to remember stories of new guys who fail because that's what happens 99.9% of the time. I also know of a number of stories where the newby who has success on his first time out then spends years trying to repeat his success and finds a whole lot of nothing. Yep, luck is a thing and once in a while it strikes like a lightening bolt and the new guy ends up finding a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow, but most of the time the pot at the end of the rainbow is just an old outhouse. Luck is great and be thankful when you end up with luck smiling on you, but knowledge, skill and experience are helpful a lot more often. Fun to pick this kind of thing off an old mine dump - wiry, silver rich electrum gold - the gold comes out the back side of the specimen, so it goes clear through. You know the old miners didn't intend to throw this stuff away. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike C... Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) Well said Chris you are correct about how the failures way out number the success rate but I still count on luck with a little intuition mixed in-you can be in a great area but unless you swing over it -it does no good and Thus Mike C...PS-Nice specie Edited September 17, 2017 by Mike C... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boulder dash Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Buy a gold bug 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel73153 Posted September 18, 2017 Author Share Posted September 18, 2017 Thanks for the input everyone. I had a GBII but it was really hard to keep balanced with ground minerals we have. And All the Hot Rocks we have around here gave me fits. The TDI ignores most of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoser John Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 If I were you I'd get a witness nugget(1/2 gram) glued to a poker chip and use to make sure your properly tuned and running right by dropping and kicking some dirt over it. You are also then trained to the sound of gold which is easy to miss with many units and the untrained ear. Never underestimate beginners luck as I've seen it plenty of times also. There are many electrical microwaves and such that can wreak havoc along with massive solar flares etc etc.John 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Furness Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 10:24 PM, Reno Chris said: . Bill supplies the right training to those who buy their detectors from him. Just saying ... Bill and I will give instructions to anyone with a detector who wants to learn how best to make it sing gold! ... Yes we give those who purchase from us a freebee but for those who may have purchased elsewhere and didn't get any or enough instruction we can help for a small hourly fee ... just call Nugget Shooter 623.910.0345 to set up an appointment that fits your timeline ... we concentrate on Minelab but can and will help you with others as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LipCa Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 John had good advice... Bury it deeper and listen for the "soft" sound.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel73153 Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 Mike, that would be great if i were just a Wee bit closer. Unfortunately, Roseburg, Oregon is a little far away. And that is a good piece of advice John. Thanks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mn90403 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 On 9/17/2017 at 1:01 PM, fredmason said: Yeah, I have plenty of plain dumb.. luck is way harder to get... As Mike C probably knows luck increases with the right skills, knowledge and location.. fred You never said that to me Fred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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