homefire 2,581 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 LOL, When they ask Why build a Air Plane, You get to look them in the eyes and just say,,, BECAUSE IS CAN......Lol Bad day got worse here yesterday. My Zero is sick. Spent most the day working on my Mitsubishi Zero. aKa Eclips. Had to pull the CV joint . Found I need ball joints, Tie Rod ends and Wheel bearing too. Getting to old for this chit. Boy did I sleep good. Guess I can plan on doing the other side too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sonoran Dave 2,148 Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, homefire said: LOL, When they ask Why build a Air Plane, You get to look them in the eyes and just say,,, BECAUSE IS CAN......Lol Bad day got worse here yesterday. My Zero is sick. Spent most the day working on my Mitsubishi Zero. aKa Eclips. Had to pull the CV joint . Found I need ball joints, Tie Rod ends and Wheel bearing too. Getting to old for this chit. Boy did I sleep good. Guess I can plan on doing the other side too. At least you got a good nights sleep out of it! Saving up for the other side would be wise. I had to buy the gf 2 new tires for her little truck this weekend. She had worn them bald, as in drag slick bald! Cords worn through and sticking up all over the place...looked like a Bob Ross afro. There went 200 bucks of plane money. Because I can...that's exactly the reason. The number of people willing to build their own aircraft has got to be a very small percentage of the population, but almost anyone could do it if they wanted to. I was in a department store the other day and noticed they no longer carry balsa or even plastic model kits. When I was growing up there was an entire aisle devoted to them. I guess kids(and adults) are too busy staring at their phones to bother building anything anymore. Edited March 13, 2017 by ArcticDave Spelling Quote Link to post Share on other sites
homefire 2,581 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 {{{ I was in a department store the other day and noticed they no longer carry balsa or even plastic model kits. When I was growing up there was an entire aisle devoted to them. I guess kids(and adults) are too busy staring at their phones to bother building anything anymore. }}} Yep, You can Forget Rocket Engines. If they do have them there just the little AA or C size. No more D and F. Got's to make your own of those too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sonoran Dave 2,148 Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 Sad sad sad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
middleforkminer2 316 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 2 hours ago, ArcticDave said: I was in a department store the other day and noticed they no longer carry balsa or even plastic model kits. When I was growing up there was an entire aisle devoted to them. I guess kids(and adults) are too busy staring at their phones to bother building anything anymore. Balsa is expensive...if you guys find a good cheap source, give me a heads up...I love working with it... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
homefire 2,581 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 LOL Last time I bought some you would think you was dealing with Black Walnut the stuff was so pricey. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Au Seeker 3,174 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 I think you can still find balsa kits and possibly just wood at a good hobby shop. Wasn't Bob Ross the fella/artist that showed you how to paint Happy Trees on the PBS channel?? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sonoran Dave 2,148 Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 Yep! That's the fellow. I just bought one of these for something to fiddle with after supper. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sonoran Dave 2,148 Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 12 minutes ago, Au Seeker said: I think you can still find balsa kits and possibly just wood at a good hobby shop. Wasn't Bob Ross the fella/artist that showed you how to paint Happy Trees on the PBS channel?? Finding a good hobby shop that isn't all RC stuff and drones is getting hard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Au Seeker 3,174 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Yes it is, I haven't been to a good one for many years since I got out of RC car racing. Is that kit a fly by string plane? There are still good online hobby shops that carry most all you could want. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sonoran Dave 2,148 Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 I think its a rubber band engine. Not sure if i'll fly it or just hang it from the ceiling. Looks like a fair bit of work to glue all the tiny little pieces. Amazon has a bunch of them or you can order directly from Guillow's themselves. Amazon is cheaper... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Au Seeker 3,174 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 24 minutes ago, ArcticDave said: I think its a rubber band engine. Not sure if i'll fly it or just hang it from the ceiling. Looks like a fair bit of work to glue all the tiny little pieces. Amazon has a bunch of them or you can order directly from Guillow's themselves. Amazon is cheaper... Now that I looked closer at the photo I see there's 3 options if you want it to fly, all I saw/focused on at my first quick glance was the gas engine depicted on the box. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sonoran Dave 2,148 Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Au Seeker said: Now that I looked closer at the photo I see there's 3 options if you want it to fly, all I saw/focused on at my first quick glance was the gas engine depicted on the box. Lol...you saw more than I did! Got to work on the little bird today and got a lot accomplished. Center section in and all cabane struts fitted and tacked! After I removed all the wood jigging I allowed myself a small victory dance...as that part was a PITA to get right Edited March 14, 2017 by ArcticDave Forgot pic... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
homefire 2,581 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Starting to look like something now. You going to weigh it just frame ? HF 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sonoran Dave 2,148 Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 Absolutely. I need a fish scale, I'll check with Bill as he might have one. If not, I'll stand on the bathroom scale and hold it! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
homefire 2,581 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Calculate. Weigh one stick of pipe and do the math on materials used. That and your welds should get you within a lb or so. HF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sonoran Dave 2,148 Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 I'm guessing, but 34-36 lbs for the raw fuselage. Thats just adding up the steel used...and some of that is still in the rack. If it comes in under 40 lbs I'll be happy. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
homefire 2,581 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Guessing. Control Linkage, Cables, Peddles, Yoke or stick 20lb , Less ???? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TomH 2,849 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 On 3/13/2017 at 3:23 PM, ArcticDave said: Yep! That's the fellow. I just bought one of these for something to fiddle with after supper. Thats all I had as a kid growing up. Dad wouldnt buy plastic models. Made me use me brain! Had some with .35 motors and steel control lines to fly them . They sure would pull! Love the smell of wing dope in the morning Tom 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
homefire 2,581 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 1 hour ago, TomH said: Thats all I had as a kid growing up. Dad wouldnt buy plastic models. Made me use me brain! Had some with .35 motors and steel control lines to fly them . They sure would pull! Love the smell of wing dope in the morning Tom I still have a ol Cox .049 in the Some Day Box waiting. LOL Can of fuel too if it's still ok. HF 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sonoran Dave 2,148 Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 I think it looks like fun. A nice hobby for evenings. I googled rc conversions and several have been done successfully. I may may try an rc version after building 2 or 3. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sonoran Dave 2,148 Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 4 hours ago, homefire said: Guessing. Control Linkage, Cables, Peddles, Yoke or stick 20lb , Less ???? I think even less...maybe half? That stuff really don't weigh much. 3/32 cable I think. Control stick is aluminum, rudder pedals are steel, but only weigh 2-3 oz a piece. I'll weigh everything as it gets built. We'll have a better idea down the road a bit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
homefire 2,581 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 (edited) A ol Chines guy living next door got me into control line flying when I was about 11 I think.. Learned a lot off the man. Edited March 16, 2017 by homefire Quote Link to post Share on other sites
homefire 2,581 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Yep, Any thing you can save weight on is a Plus Plus to get off the ground . Never mind make your limit. 254lb if I remember right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sonoran Dave 2,148 Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share Posted March 16, 2017 Yep. We'll see how close I can get. My Grandpa had model planes and a toolbox full of the little engines. I got my finger whacked a few times starting the little things. I don't remember if he did the control line thing or not. I do remember him letting them just fly free. He had a big pasture out back though...those things can go a surprising distance Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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