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ABSOLUTE HYPOCRACY

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Nobody should be fooled into thinking the enviro's opposition to dredging is because of potential mercury contamination. Their entire plan is to have the rivers of the nation all to themselves. They want no noise, no other people...nothing. All the rest are just the tools they use to accomplish what they want. Once the prospectors are gone, they'll start in on anybody else that upsets their dream world.

Jim

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Translation: We see no benefit in allowing small-scale miners to make a living and while doing so also cleaning up decades-old mercury pollution on an ongoing basis at absolutely no cost to the taxpayer when we can get the same job done in a much less efficient and one-time manner by a foreign company for only a few several-hundreds-of-thousands-of-dollars at nearly no additional cost to the taxpayer, for the moment..

SA

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Steve I believe this is called a "duble standard". Their now paying a foreign company thousands of dollars to do what they have outlawed.

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I caught a little s**t over on the TNET forum awhile back for suggesting to the dredgers that they become "EPA Certified Mercury Removal Specialists".

One of my oil patch buddies I went to high school with (actually he dropped out) became a multi-millionaire almost overnight due to the EPA enviro-nuts and their "save the world" agendas. Since he and his Dad were already in the oil services business, they saw the writing on the wall with all the new EPA regulations and rules being imposed on the oil businesses. So back in the early 1990's when all the asbestos laden buildings, and underground tank leakages were becoming an environmental problem, he started a company that dealt with those issues. Knowing that disposing of the "toxic waste" was almost 1/2 the cost of any clean up job, one of the first things he did before even starting his company was to buy himself a bunch of worthless farm and ranch land out in the boonies of Colorado. He got the land certified by the EPA as waste disposal sites. He then got all the EPA and government certifications he could get his hands on and officially started his business. One of the first jobs he got was a $1.2 million dollar job tearing down an old asbestos laden school in our hometown. The school was built in the 1930's out of the best brick money could buy. He took that brick and built himself a 10,000 sq. ft. house. He later told me he'd have done the job for free just for the brick and the scrap metal.

As part of his business, he was also certified by the EPA for underground storage tank removal and remediation. Since many of the gas stations in our local towns were mostly mom & pop businesses, they usually couldn't afford to have him dig up and replace their underground gas storage tanks. He'd make them a fair offer to buy their land and 9 out of 10 times they'd accept. He'd go in and demo the stations and pull the tanks out of the ground and then "remidiate" the land. He made millions selling the land to Walgreens, Arby's, McDonalds, Super8, Comfort Inns, etc. as most of the land he bought from the gas station owners were on very desirable corner lots, right off the Interstates, or were on the main transportation routes.

During the drug craze when everybody and their brother was cooking meth, he made even more millions by cleaning up the meth houses that the cops busted. His average job was $50k for a couple days worth of work. He had crews that drove to Denver each day just to clean up meth houses.

I guess the bottom line in all this EPA and enviro-nut craze when it pertains to dredging in the communist state of Kalifornia, is that a guy has to be proactive and try to capitalize on the opportunities the greenies so ignorantly give them. I suggested that some of the CA dredgers might want to get together, form they're own "environmentally conscious" companies, get certified by the EPA, and then get themselves some high $$$ "greenie blessed" contracts to get all that nasty mercury out of the water. You'd swear by some of the remarks I got, that I asked them to turn over their first born. :D

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AZB.......NO, a person should be able to just dredge without jumping through hoops or be a criminal in the process. A Judge already declared the state's moratorium to be illegal. In my humble opinion that means dredging is legal, even if the state refuses to issue dredging permits. There are already many people dredging. I choose to wait until the season opens under the old rules that were formed using logic and real science.

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AZB.......NO, a person should be able to just dredge without jumping through hoops or be a criminal in the process.

I agree Steve... however there's nothing wrong with trying to cover all your bases. Sad to say, but you live in a beautiful, but politically f****d up communist state. Seems there's a certain group of people who think they need to have control over every aspect of your life. To hell with those assh***s I say! Beat them at their own stupid games, get yourself "mercury certified" and let them pay you to dredge! That's what I'm saying... :yesss:

A few of my dirt bike riding buddies did something similar here in AZ. They liked building and riding new dirt bike trials which in the eyes of the FS and BLM was illegal as all get out. They got smart and after a little training and certification from the "powers that be", they now get paid to build trails and ride their dirt bikes... all under the blessings of the greenies and Uncle Sam. I was going to join them, but instead decided to get into gold prospecting. As a gold prospector, I can ride just about anywhere I darn well please... trails or no trials... so no need for me to go through all the government BS and red tape just so I can ride in my own backyard. :brows:

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If you ask me not only is it hypocrisy, but they neglect to mention all the gold that will be recovered by this "Mercury Removal" process, and also who will get to keep the gold, there will be many, many pounds of gold recovered!!!

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Bottom line? Follow the Money!

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If you ask me not only is it hypocrisy, but they neglect to mention all the gold that will be recovered by this "Mercury Removal" process, and also who will get to keep the gold, there will be many, many pounds of gold recovered!!!

Now you're catching on. :thumbsupanim

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Just yet another example of the ol' sham,skam followed up with the righteous flim/flam for the $$$$$$$$bengamins$$$$$$$$$ this rotten to the core state makes me want to puke :sickbyc: John

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Just yet another example of the ol' sham,skam followed up with the righteous flim/flam for the $$$$$$$$bengamins$$$$$$$$$ this rotten to the core state makes me want to puke :sickbyc: John

You guys in NorCal really need to seriously think about seceding from all the assh***s in SoCal and the rest of the disease infested cities/counties... me thinks your lives would be a whole lot better. :112:

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That is in the works...Just Google "State of Jefferson" Area wise most of California is still very conservative but very disenfranchised politically

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Im a lead shot/bullet removal specialist if the warden ever asks me about detecting :)

Saving the birds, horny toads and blue belly lizards!
Tom H.

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Heck I work for the EPA when people ask I tell them ... I clean the desert one bullet at a time! :)

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