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REd alert from the SAFETY BAR: "cell" sites are hacking your dumb phone


weaver hillbille

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http://www.neowin.net/news/dozens-of-fake-cell-phone-towers-discovered-eavesdropping-on-android-devices

"If you're taking a late-summer roadtrip, chances are your phone will be intercepted by a fake cell phone tower.

At least that's what Les Goldsmith, CEO of ESD America and developer of the CryptoPhone 500, claims.

According to Goldsmith, his team -- using the custom-developed CryptoPhone, which provides a hardened version of Android with a wealth of unique security features and patches a number of flaws present in the stock Android OS -- discovered dozens of fake cell phone 'towers' not belonging to any carriers which intercepted the device's signal, allowing the tower's owner to intercept any calls or communications and even 'remotely push spyware to the device.'

On a road trip taken from Florida to North Carolina by one of ESD America's customers, Goldsmith says, the device encountered 8 different interceptors. This may not be shocking, except for the fact that baseband interceptors are very costly to produce and difficult to create, meaning that only the truly committed or those with many resources have the ability to make them. The team discovered one such interceptor at a casino in Las Vegas, but many were found on top of military bases and government facilities."

"On one such excursion by ESD America's mobile security team, their phone was intercepted by a fake tower, and forced down from 4G to 2G -- a protocol which is much easier to exploit. Many higher-end interceptors, however, have the ability to "spoof" the signal so that the phone still displays a 4G connection despite being forced to 2G and exploited.

The fake towers may very well be operated by the government, Goldsmith says, but he also entertains the possibility that they could've been planted by a foreign government such as China to snoop on military communications. Regardless of the source or the intent, regular citizens are falling victim to the interceptors and running the risk of having their phone calls and even text messages intercepted by unknown parties."

http://esdcryptophone.com/products/mobile

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I believe the NSA has Echelon already grabbing data and mining cellphone conversations for trigger words.

http://pubrecord.org/nation/2290/revisiting-echelon-nsas/

:idunno: This is more along the liines of smart hackers. Or maybe the NSA gave FBI, DEA( insert other alphabet agency) some handme downs.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/echelon-today-the-evolution-of-an-nsa-black-program/5342646

It's not hard to rig up a small repeater site to handle the TX/RX . Any EE that works on setting up cell sites has the knowhow/can get ahold of the gear to do it.

What is more sofisticated/evil is the software/hacking side.

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android = secure ??? :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:

I think someone is pulling your leg.

There is no 4G in the United States. The 4G LTE is just 3G with a boost - a marketing term at best. Real 4G would be 1Gbps - not the max 4 - 30 Mbps we see from LTE. There is no true 4G even planned for the US.

All voice cell conversations in the US are forced down to 3G minimum on all networks.

The only encryption is between the tower and the cell phone. Think about that for a moment...

If someone went to the incredible expense of hijacking through a bogus tower they would have no need to force your phone down to 2G. They have to decrypt the cell signal to hook into the switched network. Your conversation is packet switched in the clear after the tower anyway.

That android cell might help you feel more secure but you are still using an open source walkie talkie as a phone. These folks are offering feel good - not security. Their story about towers forcing phones to 2G so they can be spied on only shows how little they understand the security issues they are pretending to solve.

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That android cell might help you feel more secure but you are still using an open source walkie talkie as a phone. These folks are offering feel good - not security. Their story about towers forcing phones to 2G so they can be spied on only shows how little they understand the security issues they are pretending to solve.

I wouldn't know.

THE jist I got from it all -was that Android phones are the one's being hacked.

ANd that the company ferreting out the pseudo cell sites provides equipment for local, state, federal agency secure communication.

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Posting an unsubstantiated story as though it were something to make decisions off of...

one of the reasons "information" posted on the internet must be taken with a huge grain of salt.

The part of the story that stands out is that it was posted by a company selling something.

It's so important to do background checking.

Also, in all honesty, who really needs a fully encrypted cell phone?

NSA is VERY interested in those who do...

As it is, I don't mind if they know what the grocery list is from my wife.

Thanks Clay for the salt.

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There ya go assumming. :4chsmu1: I assumed you knew your communications were hacked already

Posting an unsubstantiated story as though it were something to make decisions off of...

Also, in all honesty, who really needs a fully encrypted cell phone?

NSA is VERY interested in those who do...

As it is, I don't mind if they know what the grocery list is from my wife.

Thanks Clay for the salt.

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