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I have a set like Don's too. Don's inspired me to get some after my first trip down there with him. In my opinion, I think my Black Widow headphones do me a bit better, but I may try these again. I think its mostly the frequencies I cannot hear at all. I have played with the sound on my 4500 and think I have the best one for me. Good thing I just enjoy getting out and being in the woods with my dogs gold or not!

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As we get older there are certain ferqs. We just don't hear. The kids have ring tones on their phones that people over a certain age just won't hear. I use buds--- Don's are a good set-up, I just haven't been state side in nearly three years to look into getting a pair.

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