nurserob Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Hi there,This is my first post here,I've searched the forums but could not find any info related to my question so please excuse me if this is answered somewhere else.i saw that someone here had visited last stand lake in Nevada north of Rachel.I cannot tell by google maps satellite,is the road that leads to this lake accessible by car or do I need a 4x4? Having never driven desert dirt roads,I am not sure if they are solid or if they are sand like a beach,I just dont want to get stuck.Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peakbager Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 The road to Fred's wall pretty much okay to drive passenger vehicle. The last stretch to the lake from the well is little soft but I did it in my 2 Wheel Drive truck. After that the whole lake is pretty much accessible with no soft spots just be careful of the shrapnel on the lake there are some sharp things that stick up you don't want to blow a tire out there. Bryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peakbager Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I meant Fred's wellBryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurserob Posted April 8, 2014 Author Share Posted April 8, 2014 I should probably stop at the well then,Im going to be in a mustang convertible Is it a far walk to the lake bed from there? Snakes,etc in the area usually? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurserob Posted April 8, 2014 Author Share Posted April 8, 2014 One more thing,is the lake considered Native American property? I wanted to hide a geocache there,but there are 0 near the lake bed and I didnt know if that was just coincidence or if it was for a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peakbager Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 No it's not far from the well to the lake and the lake is all BLM land. But for the most part you'll only be able to search the south side of the lake due to its size walking the lake would be almost too much. Bryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peakbager Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Also keep in mind that this location is very remote with the nearest town being 25 miles away and the nearest gas being 50 you don't want to get stuck or get in any trouble out there because there's no one to come get you be careful. Bryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regmaglitch Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Hi Nurserob, If I may suggest.......For people that don't have 4WD vehicles, quads, or dirt bikes, the easiest, cheapest way to get around on a playa, is on a BICYCLE.A kids bike from Goodwill, garage sale, or police auction is cheap. Raise the seat, throw on some wide tires, and add a basket tocarry your mag-stick, pack, and water. You can actually cross a dry lake pretty fast to hit a desired location, or head back to your car. Check it out, Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peakbager Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Good suggestion Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurserob Posted April 9, 2014 Author Share Posted April 9, 2014 (edited) Thanks for the info guys! We are renting a convertible mustang to drive up there with. I wont drive too far in it sounds like.Is the well the thing you can see on google maps satellite,its off a road at the southern end of the dry lakebed. I think I will just park there and walk. As for gas,we are going to top off in Alamo,drive to Last stand,then stop in rachel and make the pilgrimage down groom lake road to get our pictures with the area 51 signs.I'm still tossing around the idea of a placing a geocache at last stand. There are none there and I would love to be the first one there. I was afraid it was Native American land but since its BLM land,I think I should be ok.Also,has anyone had any luck at the dry lake across the ET hwy from Rachel NV? Edited April 9, 2014 by nurserob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peakbager Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) Yes the well is what you see on Google earth right off the main highway on the southern end of the lake. And yes the lake near Rachel I believe it's called Sandvalley dry lake does have finds made on it. Good luckBryan Edited April 10, 2014 by peakbager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurserob Posted April 14, 2014 Author Share Posted April 14, 2014 Thanks for all the info guys! Now to decide to check the Rachel lake or go to Last Stand, decisions decisions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurserob Posted April 14, 2014 Author Share Posted April 14, 2014 Also gotta decide whether its worth it to fly my metal detector out there or just look for surface meteorites. I am taking a 50 lb pull magnet with me for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peakbager Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Don't waste your time bringing a metal detector there may be some out in the brush if you look on the lake that's where they've all been found and you can see him just look for the dark black ones but wait there's all bunch of dark black ones just keep your eyes peeled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desertsunburn Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Nothing personal, but I think it's a really bad idea planting geocaches in areas where there are potential meteorite finds. All it does in increase the traffic in the area which is seldom ever a good idea to bring such attention to the area. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peakbager Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I think I have to agree Jim probably not a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurserob Posted April 15, 2014 Author Share Posted April 15, 2014 (edited) If you check the map at geocaching.com, the ET highway has a cache about every 100 feet,there are already 20 or 30 within a mile of the lake.This is the most highly concentrated area of caches in the world. Besides,I planned on putting it fairly near the road where the other caches are already at,not out on the lake itself,most likely near the well since I am going to be there with a car and really cant go in any further. Here is an image from the caching site... The lake near rachel has actual caches on the lake and all around it as well.That should be ok shouldn't it? I can even put it on one of the dirt roads south of the well,not near the lake.There is also a little fenced area south of the lake that on satellite looks like it has an old windmill on it. I could hide it in that area that is nowhere near the lake as well.I live across the country and this is going to be my first cache hide,I dont want anyone getting mad and destroying or removing the cache.http://www.geocaching.com/map/?ll=37.64256,-115.74261#?ll=37.97925,-116.06747&z=13 Edited April 15, 2014 by nurserob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peakbager Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I would just keep it off the lake. I don't really have a problem with it as it it public land. Maybe I'll look for it on my next trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurserob Posted April 15, 2014 Author Share Posted April 15, 2014 Oh yeah,I never dreamed of putting it on the lake. Thats too pristine an area to pollute with caches,I planned maybe around that well. Is that BLM land as well or is it privately owned?One other thing,this type of area prime real estate for rattlesnakes,etc? I dont want to get tagged walking around the area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurserob Posted April 17, 2014 Author Share Posted April 17, 2014 Is the shack/well there private property or is that BLM too? Not sure how it got there or how old it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peakbager Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 The area around the lake including the cabin is BLM land it's only least to a grazer just a bit to the north the public has access to all of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurserob Posted April 22, 2014 Author Share Posted April 22, 2014 Sounds great.Thanks for all the info. I think I'll hide it somewhere near the well so its easy to get to with a car.Plus it will be off the lakebed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurserob Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 Walking around the desert near this lake,do I need to be worried about snakes,scorpions,etc? Obviously if i go looking under rocks I could get in trouble,but are there any creatures I might run into just walking around there looking for meteorites? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikestang Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Walking in any desert from California to Texas you should always be on the look out for snakes, scorpions, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredmason Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 The desert has many hazards...The snakes and scorpions donot want anything to do with you. Leave them is peace, please. Never put your hands or feet where you cannot see. Rattlesnakes are very difficult to spot for most people...especially the little ones. The scorpions are out wandering at night...underground during the day...I have dug many scorpions they just want to get under cover...The tarantulas and Tarantula wasps won't bother you either. Stay far away from hornets nests and honey bees hives...Carry a pair of tweezers to pull any thorns from cactus..jeeze, I am afraid to go out there now...fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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