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Rock Hound Map for the Jack Pot,NV area.

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I have recently recovered some of my lost pictures, this map is one of them. All the locations around Jack Pot where still producing as of 2006 when I was last there.

The Hubbard Basin petrified wood is super if you have never saw any do a search on line, there are still small pieces if you dig in the fill, a few years back they took entire logs from there till the BLM stopped them from digging with Back Hoes. The wood is red, White and Blue.

Just over the Idaho state line from Jack pot on the right side of the highway at an old roadside park thee are tons of geodes, you can see them from the highway and you don't even have to dig for them. There are many of them in multiples and most of them have crystals inside.

The ones close to the top of the ground are usually cracked from water freezing in them. This is on the old highway and there are good camping spots at the old roadside park but its trashy. Ask at the casino for local guidance to the Pink Limb Cast area, the roads can be very muddy.

Its worth a day or 2 stop on your way N or S. Ignore the phone #

Max

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Awesome map. What are the roads like? 4wd needed?

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d_day, for the most part they are typical ranch roads for northern Nevada and most of them are well maintained by traffic. The Texas Spring and all of the limb cast areas seem to have more clay and lower ground and wet weather can catch you for a few hours. The roads west of Contact and the Hubbard Basin roads are better drained and its higher country, another problem I when its wet some of the very sharp stones penetrate tires easier. I would rather have an extra tire and wheel and a good jacking system than 4 wheel drive, none of the diggings are in places where its too steep for 2 wheel drive and that last 100 yards is easier walked than the 40 miles if you get stuck driving it. It is very isolated country and the standard precautions should be taken. My wife and I where camped at one of the limb cast areas in May one time and had gone to bed when about midnight it started sleeting and snowing, We where in a heavy cab over pickup camper and had crossed several stretches of wet ground with some ruts and we quickly decided that running for town was the best ideal, It was a good thing, we just made the pavement slipping and sliding and got into Jack Pot at about 4 AM after 40 miles of wondering if we would make it. We parked at the far N end of town where they have truck and R/V parking and restrooms. the snow was 6" deep and the HWP closed the gate at the edge of town at the Idaho state line, everyone was stopped. It was not all bad however, we walked across the highway to a small Casino to have breakfast and I filled out a Keno card while waiting for my ham & eggs and hit 5 numbers for $600 , the highway was closed for 2 days north bound.

Good Luck if you go!

Max

PS: There is gold to the W too , the Jarbridge area has lots of small streams.

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Sounds doable. I've been in that part of the world a few times in my way to Elko, so I know how isolated it is. I've just never had time to go exploring. Maybe I'll make a trip up this fall, any hotels in Jackpot or would it be better to stay in Wells?

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:thumbsupanim Youz d man Mad Max :D

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Max,

I had a set of petrified wood bookends from Hubbard Basin. They were cut with the grain and even had a small quartz crystal pocket towards the top. Beautful set but had to sell recently as with many other things. There's another area out west that is supposed to have green petrified wood but I can't think of the location. Maybe you know of this one.

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d_day, Jackpot has plenty of places to stay, Cactus Pete's is my favorite and they have an R/V park also, lots of rock hounds base there.

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Might have to go exploring there, Max, thanks for the treasure map

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Max,

I had a set of petrified wood bookends from Hubbard Basin. They were cut with the grain and even had a small quartz crystal pocket towards the top. Beautful set but had to sell recently as with many other things. There's another area out west that is supposed to have green petrified wood but I can't think of the location. Maybe you know of this one.

Steve, the only true green wood I know of is limb casts on Les Schwab's ranch near Prineville ,Ore. Before he died they used to open it in several areas for digging during the rock hound show every year. I don't know if they still do. I had one really nice chunk I had polished but it didn't survive the fire. I have saw Hubbard Basin rounds big enough for coffee table tops sell for 1000's of $.

Years ago there was a ranch near Sweet Home, Ore that you could dig for petrified wood, some of it was as natural as a sawed piece of real wood and a very few where white with bright yellow rings,I had a round that was 4" thick and 18" in dia. that I sold at the Sisters, Ore rock show for $800, I didn't find out till later how rare it was. Nevada and Oregon has lots of different ones, near MC Dermett, NV there are limb casts that when rounds are cut from it you can't tell its not real wood. At Dubois, WY just south of the border of Yellowstone you can recover limb casts of every color in the river , up in the park there are 26 or so layers of petrified trees along the cliffs of the river, that spot is probably closed now too. Another good spot for limb casts and knots is N of Holbrook, AZ get directions at the rock shop. there are also "Pay to Dig" places open occasionally. Most of these places require local knowledge , I just look around till I find a rock shop or someone yard full of rocks and start asking. I left about 20 tons in Mt. Home. ID when I quit making rock shows.

Max

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Might have to go exploring there, Max, thanks for the treasure map

El Dorado, When I first went to Jack Pot the Cactus Pete's Casino had the Post office and the town office's in the front of the Casino and they didn't charge for R/V parking, we had our mail forwarded there and explored for hundreds of miles in every direction from the great Salt Lake to Jarbridge and just about every side road that our Pickup camper could make it over, I was not into gold then, I don't know why not. Jarbridge has some great gold history for a really good 4 wheeling guide go to this link:http://www.gbr.4wdtrips.net/4x4/jarbidge.html

This area is even more isolated than Jack Pot and there is gold to be found! I did well there in 2009 o my way home from Idaho.

Max

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I have recently recovered some of my lost pictures, this map is one of them. All the locations around Jack Pot where still producing as of 2006 when I was last there.

The Hubbard Basin petrified wood is super if you have never saw any do a search on line, there are still small pieces if you dig in the fill, a few years back they took entire logs from there till the BLM stopped them from digging with Back Hoes. The wood is red, White and Blue.

Just over the Idaho state line from Jack pot on the right side of the highway at an old roadside park thee are tons of geodes, you can see them from the highway and you don't even have to dig for them. There are many of them in multiples and most of them have crystals inside.

The ones close to the top of the ground are usually cracked from water freezing in them. This is on the old highway and there are good camping spots at the old roadside park but its trashy. Ask at the casino for local guidance to the Pink Limb Cast area, the roads can be very muddy.

Its worth a day or 2 stop on your way N or S. Ignore the phone #

Max

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t33/Gilaoro/JackpotNV.jpg

Just - FYI - and not meaning to be a party pooper. Average grade petrified wood is not a locatable mineral. However, geodes, as well various grades & types of opal are locatable minerals - most worthwhile deposits in the area you refer to are covered with valid existing mining claims. Removal of a locatable mineral from a valid mining claim -is- a mineral trespass. So, I would advise caution & performing due diligence before setting up camp & digging.

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You just have to assume that in these crazy claiming times and on a professional forum like Nugget Shooters that any Rock Hound advanced enough to go to a place like this knows the rules for collecting petrified wood, how ever I attach them for those who don't. I don't think anyone will have any problem distinguishing a true OPAL claim in Nevada, the ones I have seen are heavily commercialized. So called "OPAL" Limb Casts as referred to in the map and BLM page are not true opal , just another form of petrified wood. When I was in the trade I bought and shipped petrified wood from BLM land by the flatbed truck load, the average I paid was 8 cents a LB.

I always advise due diligence, the most popular spots around Jack Pot are open to collectors, Cactus Pete's Casino is the place to start for private property access, any private land you may run on too in NV is usually well marked being that approx. 98% of the state is BLM. One or two of the dealers there actually take people out on trips for free and have the required permissions. The geodes on the Idaho/Nevada border are not claimed and the highway right of way is clearly marked, I recommend that you do not dig on highway right of ways having been personally rousted by the HWP in several states and an Indian reservation for taking samples.

I prefer to mine on private or patented land but even on Patented property, clearly marked , with buildings, machines, BBQ pits Etc. sitting around I have had dumb XXXXXXXXS drive in while I was gone to town and stake the creek, if it was not so pathetically funny some of them would be hurting. Before it burned with my house I had a video I made of 4 ATV riders driving up to my new claim posts with metal detectors strapped on and wrenching them out of he ground and throwing them in to the canyon , they elected to pay restitution rather than arrest.

http://www.blm.gov/nv/st/en/fo/elko_field_office/blm_programs/Recreation1/rockhounding.html

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Steve, the only true green wood I know of is limb casts on Les Schwab's ranch near Prineville ,Ore. Before he died they used to open it in several areas for digging during the rock hound show every year. I don't know if they still do. I had one really nice chunk I had polished but it didn't survive the fire. I have saw Hubbard Basin rounds big enough for coffee table tops sell for 1000's of $.

Years ago there was a ranch near Sweet Home, Ore that you could dig for petrified wood, some of it was as natural as a sawed piece of real wood and a very few where white with bright yellow rings,I had a round that was 4" thick and 18" in dia. that I sold at the Sisters, Ore rock show for $800, I didn't find out till later how rare it was. Nevada and Oregon has lots of different ones, near MC Dermett, NV there are limb casts that when rounds are cut from it you can't tell its not real wood. At Dubois, WY just south of the border of Yellowstone you can recover limb casts of every color in the river , up in the park there are 26 or so layers of petrified trees along the cliffs of the river, that spot is probably closed now too. Another good spot for limb casts and knots is N of Holbrook, AZ get directions at the rock shop. there are also "Pay to Dig" places open occasionally. Most of these places require local knowledge , I just look around till I find a rock shop or someone yard full of rocks and start asking. I left about 20 tons in Mt. Home. ID when I quit making rock shows.

Max

Max, The place that had the green petrified wood was located at Hampton Butte, Oregon. This is just one example I found.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mw-Dome-Polished-AGATE-LIMB-CAST-w-GREEN-PETRIFIED-WOOD-Hampton-Butte-OR-/231014197817?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c984ea39

The area is quite large but a lot of it is located on private ranches so permission would be needed to dig. I have seen some spectacular pieces come from there.

Of course there's other great localities in the pacific northwest for petrified wood. Some of my favorites were Stinkingwater , Sweet Home in Oregon and Vantage, Yakima in Washington. I was never involved in the business side of this like you were. One of the biggest dealers I knew back then were Bob and Dan Beck of Mr Hood, Ore. Every year they would set up at Quartzsite,stay for three or four months,sell out and go back home to prepare for the next year. They had all types from all over the place but didn't have the huge slices you see sometimes in Tucson. I was amazed at the 6-8 ft diameter slabs they were selling down there. One slab I saw was being shipped to Norway with a price tag of $8000.00 and that didn't include shipping. This was back in the early 90's and hate to see what similar pieces would sell for these days.

There's a book called "Modern Wood Technology" which is the bible for indentifying the species of petrified woods and still being used to this day. Not much help on the extinct ones though, only the ones still around, ie maple, birch, oak,elm,ect.

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Steve, I have been to all of those places, I never was involved in the retail end, I preferred to buy old rock shop inventories, private collections and buy wholesale from private land owners. Hampton Butte used to have some pay to dig places, don't know about them now.

There is still many tons owned by private collectors , I know one in Idaho who has never sold any of his in 40 years. according to the BLM you can not sell hobby collected petrified wood, however you can get a permit to collect all you want at price per LB or ton for resale, the market is down from what it was and the last time I went to the main areas there where tons sitting on pallets and the companies sitting it out.

The same goes for shale and other patio type rock, if the housing market ever went back to what it was you would see flatbed loads rolling to Dallas, phoenix and other markets.

Baja, Mexico is a big shipper of rocks of various types, in some cases directly to Home Depot and Lowes.

That is like the boulder market around Congress, Date Creek and other areas here, they have never completely stopped shipping them. You would not believe the MT tops stripped bare around here! Huge amounts have been shipped since they started across from the Arrowhead when we where at Stanton in the '90,s, if fact I saw one yesterday sitting at the rail yard in Wickenburg that was all the truck could haul, one very large red boulder, from my oversize truck escorting days I would estimate it to be in excess of 90,000 , I will try to get a picture today if its still parked there, I suspect its waiting for a permit.

The biggest I was ever with was 100,000 LBs, I seldom ever took pictures unless it was a very exceptional load , most of my pictures where lost including one of the largest load to ever cross the river at Blythe,Ca to AZ, it was a copper roaster going to Magna, it was 3000,000 LBs, It got hung up in a low spot on 95 between Vidal Junction and Blythe for a week closing the highway when the straps stretched and they had to replace them with metal straps.

Then when they got to the AZ weight station at Ehrenberg , AZ would not let them proceed with out an additional pusher truck up the hill to Qsite and they had to bring one from Salt Lake City ,UT while they where waiting they fixed flat tires, I believe it was 54 out of 160 tires , those rigs carry their own tire truck, a huge one along with them, I was going to work for them, when I found out the escorts changed tires at night I walked, I had changed my last 22" truck tire long before then! The latest record through AZ to Globe is 385 Tons, it came through Kingman and Wickenburg , I wonder what it cost to haul that big rock?

I do not and have never advocated trespassing on private land and digging rocks, especially one this size.

Max

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That is like the boulder market around Congress, Date Creek and other areas here, they have never completely stopped shipping them. You would not believe the MT tops stripped bare around here!

Max

I once had a chance to work for old Clyde Thomasson (sic) who had quite a few claims in the Rich Hill area. But it looked so unsafe using nothing but a single steel cable to wrap around each boulder, then help stabilize it as it was lifted onto the flatbed. Then repeat hour after hour for the whole day. Pay wasn't bad but I valued my fingers and health more then that paycheck. That area used to look so pristine with all those boulders,shrubbery,etc. Now it probably looks like crap.

I can't imagine them approving a 385 ton rock to be hauled just for landscaping purposes. That's over 700,000 lbs. Think of the damage something like that might cause to the roads. No way would that be allowed in our state.

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His is a great thread... Thanks

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