cipryan Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Hello guys, After a few hours of reading this forum I saw some experts in rocks and meteorites here.I need your help for identification of a rock or a meteorite.The object was found with a metal detector and its weight ~23gramms.I really appreciate what you're doing here, all the respect !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedrock Bob Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 (edited) That is a nice looking rock!You need to grind a window in it and note the color of your filings.The shape is good for an iron but a lot of tramp metal can sure fool you. Irons are tough. You need to peek inside and take a look.Id say it is tramp metal but it is one of those shapes that make you want to investigate further.Show us a shot of the window as well as the color of the filings when you polish the facet with 220 wet paper. That is your best next step to identification.If the cuttings are red it is hematite. Black or grey magnetite, metallic is iron. Edited July 15, 2013 by Bedrock Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cipryan Posted July 15, 2013 Author Share Posted July 15, 2013 Tramp metal should be magnetic right ? The rock is non-magnetic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cipryan Posted July 15, 2013 Author Share Posted July 15, 2013 (edited) I just polish it and looks black.Thats a weird piece.If it was magnetite should be magnetic but is non-magnetic.I read something about lunar meteorite...Still searching Edited July 15, 2013 by cipryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikestang Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Does not appear to be a meteorite to me at all, of any sort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cipryan Posted July 15, 2013 Author Share Posted July 15, 2013 Does not appear to be a meteorite to me at all, of any sort.Any idea what it is ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedrock Bob Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Magnetite. A dark streak. It is not always magnetic. Neither is hematite always non magnetic. The streak always tells you.It is not a meteorite, sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cipryan Posted July 15, 2013 Author Share Posted July 15, 2013 Magnetite. A dark streak. It is not always magnetic. Neither is hematite always non magnetic. The streak always tells you.It is not a meteorite, sorry.Thank you mr. Bedrock Bob.I am still cofused what can be ..i will add a picture of streak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlakMagnet Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 A meteorite though Bob, is usually magnetic, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedrock Bob Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 (edited) Yes. But if you teach a man to fish he will be able to identify magnetite and hematite on his own next time.We were way past the meteorite thing at first blush. Our goal was to identify that ugly sucker. I figured tramp metal cuz he found it with a detector. Now i figure his ground balance was off and he is a beepin on iron oxides....Either that or it is a rare oxidized hemoferric meteorite from the rings around Uranus . I have a bucket full of those suckers ifn you know a market for them... Edited July 16, 2013 by Bedrock Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikestang Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Probably some sort of terrestrial iron oxide would be my guess, too.Magnetite streaks dark, like your picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cipryan Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 I will add some new information.The rock was found in Romania at ~16inches with metal detector and stiil sound like a metal. (whites dfx and xp deus)I just play with a magnet and rock it is slow magnetic but not like a pice of iron of his size.I will try to cut to see what is inside and i will search for some small pice of magnet to see if they stay on rock.Thanks mr Mikestang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cipryan Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 (edited) I just cuted the rock(really hard with an hacksaw) and inside is black with the same shiny points and small hole like aerated chocolate.I add some picture... Still confused, any opinion is welcolme. Edited July 16, 2013 by cipryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 That's a really poor picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredmason Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 You need to take the rock to a local geology department and have an expert give an opinion...photos often show that something is almost certainly NOT a meteorite, but, rarely will photos allow positive identification...and poor photos are worse than useless in this process...The one area on the rock that looks different from the rest leads me to some sort of slag...as a not-an-expert guess.fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cipryan Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 You need to take the rock to a local geology department and have an expert give an opinion...photos often show that something is almost certainly NOT a meteorite, but, rarely will photos allow positive identification...and poor photos are worse than useless in this process...The one area on the rock that looks different from the rest leads me to some sort of slag...as a not-an-expert guess.fredThank you mr Fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mn90403 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Mr. FredI like that, It kinda fits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikestang Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 (edited) Fred's got some good advice, find yourself a geologist and they should know what it is. Or even if you have a rock shop in town you could ask them. These are exactly the wrong people to ask about meteorites, but they should know their terrestrial rocks pretty well . I found a similar rock somewhere when I was a kid, still have it in my rock case.(not a meteorite)Out of focus window, but my thumb is clear (not a meteorite) Edited July 16, 2013 by Mikestang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlfarris Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Fred...if it was Mr. S. Fred it would be more accurate. Just sayin' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredmason Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Hi Karl...i can think of many possibles for the S...perhaps you could tell me yours...there is an Outing forming up at Gold basin in early November...check it out...fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlfarris Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Fred...re: the S, it was a poor attempt at referring to the term sissy, previously used. I have the November hunt on my calendar. Saginaw and I are going to GB next Thursday for a few days. We are headed to one of your lower suggested spots up near the foothills. Will report.Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredmason Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 thanks...Good luck...low and slow and dig every signal...fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikestang Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 there is an Outing forming up at Gold basin in early November...check it out...fredFred,Where is the info for this hunt? I'd love to hit GB in Nov, hopefully around the middle (weekend of 11/16). Thanks.Would be awesome to hit GB in Nov and Franc in Dec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredmason Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Bill has pinned the Fall and other outings link at the top of this and the other forums...hope to meet you there or elsewhere...fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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