garimpo Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Around here most of the rainy season is over by May so last May I had the mech take thelocker out of the rear diff. on the Toyota since I do most of my driving here in town onpavement......don't know if the squeeching around corners will hurt anything or not but itsure gets on my nerves....Well the rains have returned this time of year (Oct) so it will be more and more rain in themonths ahead....so went to the mech this morning to have the locker replaced in the reardiff...he was bush so now my appointment is for 1400 today...On inspecting the pieces I noticed that the four little springs are a little out of alignment andI'm wondering now if their still good to go.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybeerman Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 I have pulled "lunch box lockers" out, and found broken springs and broken pins. But did not relise there was anything amiss. If you plan on removing it again for the next dry season. I'd say you will be fine. I would order a spring and pin kit before the "next" install Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garimpo Posted October 16, 2012 Author Share Posted October 16, 2012 Blake I was kinda thinking the same way since the springs aren't that bad out of shape....my 1400appointment got canceled because the mech had to go get a trucker out of trouble...tomorrow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garimpo Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 The little "lunch box" is in and seems to be working....kinda hard to get a diesel to burn rubber....so I went to adirt/muddy street and "burned gravel".... result was two little ruts.... install only cost $190.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimshot Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Did you take any pictures???? lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennM Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Yeah, EZ Lockers go through springs rather often. White you're ordering one kit, go ahead and get a few as the price is cheap and shipping will not be much different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garimpo Posted October 18, 2012 Author Share Posted October 18, 2012 Glenn living down here I usually buy two of everything....so now if I can just remember where I put the spare springs and pins....tool box in the truck would be to easy.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garimpo Posted October 18, 2012 Author Share Posted October 18, 2012 Did you take any pictures???? lol!Sorry Rim didn't have my "brownie" with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garimpo Posted October 19, 2012 Author Share Posted October 19, 2012 Had the Brownie with me today.....beeped this ravine this morninga lot of dead brush and the bedrock has a lot of step downs....these pics were at the top of the ridge and the wash was headed down to the main wash thatis much larger and deeper.....hot and no air in there.....only got six nails of various sizes anda bucket of sweat.....On the way out went to the river and just before getting into the river bed I stopped and lockedthe front hubs just in case.....went the 100 yards down the river with just the rear wheel pulling......then went up the bank that normally requires 4x4 but not with the lockers today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennM Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Lockers are a wonderful thing, are they not?They can get you further into trouble than you've ever been Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garimpo Posted October 23, 2012 Author Share Posted October 23, 2012 My great friend that lived across the street from me in OKC drove 4x4's all his adult life and when I gotmy first one he always liked to remind me that a 4x4 is great for getting you stuck at least twice as farfrom the nearest tractor.....his past experiences got me into a lot of trouble but at least he was sittingthere beside me to share in the fun..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Furness Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 My philosophy on 4X4 drive. Drive in 4X2 as long as possible and get out of trouble with 4X4; drive in 4X4 high range as long as possible and get out of trouble with 4X4 low range; drive in 4X4 low range as far as possible and get into trouble .... oh sh&t what the h%ll am I doing this far out! Wish I had a winch or "why didn't I buy that handyman jack I was looking at last week before I made this trip!? or at least put the comealong into the truck instead of leaving it on the shelf in the garage! Ooops! Da#n this is going to be a long walk out!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Dorado Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 No Mike, we have learned to use the RZR... it just does not want to get stuck anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Furness Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 EL D ... philosophy was relating to my GMC not the RZR ... My RZR doesn't want to get stuck either ... it does seem to want to go into some strange places though! Mike F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garimpo Posted February 7, 2013 Author Share Posted February 7, 2013 Blake and Glenn.....hope your listening....yesterday I was driving on a dry sloping lake bad....the partwhere the water had been high but now the water is very low.....before starting the 1/4 mile trip downthe lake I locked in the front hubs.....got about half way to where I wanted to go and the bank I was ongot a little steeper....guess about 45°.....put in 4x4 Hi.....the rear end wanted to slide to the water levelbut the front wheels kept us high and dry.....after beeping for a couple of hours and got ready to headto the house I noticed that on the left rear wheel that three of the six bolts holding the axle in were brokenand gone.....I tightened the remaining three bolts .....they just barely moved and headed for the houseand after lunch went to the mech shop....got there and saw that the other three bolts had broken and alsowere gone plus the axle was sticking out about four inches.....Today finally got all the broken bolts removed ($120.00 bucks) and new ones installed....now do you gearheads have any thoughts on why all this happened in the first place.....the left side never has any problemsso haven't touched the bolts in about a year....until now.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilaoro Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I had the same thing happen to my Ford Ranger last year on the left rear. . Someone told me it was worn out wheel bearings caused it.Max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garimpo Posted February 7, 2013 Author Share Posted February 7, 2013 Max we check the bearings when we put the pieces back together and they looked good....thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilaoro Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Garimpo, I never got a chance to check it.! After changing the studs I had put it up on jack stands and was in the process of putting in a new clutch when my MH burned including the Ranger. Its replacement is a '98 with automatic everything. I saw an old Range Rover today that had been totaly restored, one of the old box, everything square type, would have traded in a heartbeat for it.Max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennM Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 (edited) Don,Just saw your PM on this.Ok, the flange bolts can break for many reasons. This will be hard on my phone, but here goes.The bolt were loose for whatever reason. Since you said the other three were able to be turned, that seems the more likely candidate here.I'm not saying they started backing off after your last assembly, I'm thinking that the constant removal and reinstall has stretched the bolts over time and they simply could not handle any more with the use you put your Yota through.Removing and reinstalling the locker as frequently as it appears touch have has had those bolts torqued down past their yield ability.The axle at that point has those little bolts holding not only the static weight of the vehicle, but also dealing with all the dynamic energy experienced when driving. The fact that you were running off amber for a while exacerbates the stresses on that corner.Am I surprised they broke? Not reallyIf available, get hold of new factory bolt specs and use the same. Or go with at least grade 5 with real lock nuts (not nylocks), torque to proper specs, and use new lock nuts every time you tear it down. I would expect, with your type of use, to replace the bolts every 10 disassemblies.Hope this helps. Edited February 10, 2013 by GlennM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybeerman Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Lockers do put an added load on things. Causing looseing of bolts and such. One thing to look at would be a bent axel shaft or bent housing on that side. That would make it almost impossible to keep the bolts tight and axel sealed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garimpo Posted February 11, 2013 Author Share Posted February 11, 2013 Thanks Blake and Glenn.....I think you've probably hit on several problems with the Toyo.....foreverI've had problems with the bolts backing out on the R. side and just the other day replaced the entireassemby that the axle bolts into....cost was 208.00....so every thing over there is new except for theaxle....when I returned down the same slope that side worked good and no problems....The right side that has never in the past been any problem is the side that gave up the ghost....nowit also has newbolts....nuts...and lock washers.....For 15 years I've been asking mechanics here if they know what a torque wrench is and they nod theirheads yes but nobody has one.....I have one in my sons garage so next trip to Okla. it's going to becomea export....I have not one idea where I'm going to find thetoque values of anything on this 26 yr. old Toyota....Thanks for all the advise.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennM Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Send a message to the tech guys at Marlin Crawler. They will know it, or get it to you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoser John Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Chilton manual has'm all bud-my bible for toys-even the 86 still printed also-John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garimpo Posted March 2, 2013 Author Share Posted March 2, 2013 Ok HJ since I can't get Chilton down here what is the torque value for the floating axel bolts....Toyota 1986 Land Cruiser.....Thanks gobs.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoser John Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 will look today as up d hill behind locked gates in rv storage as too many vehicles-John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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