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Great to hear Jim and glad you made it home all in one piece and safe and sound.

Congrat's Bill on your presentation! Wish I could have attended.


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A  funny about Jim.   He took a WW2 era mine sweep metal detector to a coin contest at Rancho Jurupa... The detector had no battery and  was not working.  He went into the field and picked up visible

The word is out that Jim has passed away. I last saw and spoke with Jim a bit over a year ago. He spent several hours on both Saturday and Sunday in the ICMJ booth with me at the Pomona GPAA show. He

Bill what I'm trying to say and continue to say it badly, but at my age I'm on my way out. I've had my 15 seconds of fame years ago... My day is past. I liken myself as a caboose on a train... Thus

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Howdy All... Rim Ol' friend I too whish you were there so

I could meet you in person; but Texas is a long way's away.

Bill did great... I was at his first presentation on

Saturday morning... I was lucky to be there earl and put

my wheelchair on the front row side of the room

and was completely out of the way...

Bill drew a large crowd and behind the last back row it

was standing room only... However at my vantage point

I was able to hear and enjoyed listening as Bill spoke.

Lucky me... I truly thank Bob and Mike for taking to

the Lancaster GPAA show.

Bill really knows about Dry Desert drywashing and detecting

for eluvial placers and the importance of research. I learned

new stuff... Thank You Bill! tailgate jim straight

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Thank's Jim for the details.

Bill maybe you should make a DVD about on dry washing and metal detecting. I'd buy it... :inocent::inocent: :inocent:

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Hi Bill it a was a pleasure meeting you this last weekend ! and Great job..

It was a good show and seeing old friends like Jim M from Whites, Walt E. from Oregon and so on. Wow it doesn't get any better than that.

Rimshot good idea for Bill to make a DVD ..


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Hi Jim -

It was great to see you again my friend and to see you doing well.I always enjoy talking with you. No issues between us, just a couple of old Mackey grads talking about gold and other fun things.

Congratulations on the success you are having with your books. They are excellent references.

I get my turn to hear Bill's presentation next weekend in Las Vegas. I am very much looking forward to it and I am sure I will learn some good stuff. I had the privilege of having dinner with Bill on Saturday night in Lancaster,

Jim, you and I both agree on what a fine gentleman he is and that he is very knowledgeable on gold and prospecting.

My best wishes to you and your family.


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Howdy Bill, Jon, Au Seeker, and Rim... Thanks for your continuing

support over the years; I cannot express in words how much your

encouragement has meant to me during my worst time. Actually, there

is now over 18 pages in this electronic campfire

Now special Howdy to Reno Chris Ralph. This is your first post on

this electronic campfire... first of all, it is not about me; all

the posters have added important Learn'n to this "jim straight here"

thingy and it is Bill that makes it happen, and also pays for it.

Reno Chris Ralph is a well known graduate of the Mackay School of

Mines and the author of "Fists Full of Gold" which could

be described as a lexicon (dictionary); with information on any

question that can be asked in regards to any division(s) of Geology.

Just plain Ol' "tailgate" jim straight

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You can never know how much Jon (aka Broken Arrow) and my self appreciate all your generosity. All the time you have spent passing along your knowledge to us. Along with your help and support has been amazing. You can be a tough teacher but you know your stuff. I will never for get that Saturday night I came over to visit. I wanted to show you a YouTube video of a outing some one had posted. If memory serves me you had no interest...BUT I lured you in. Then it was game on. For the next hour you dissected that video. Having me pause it every 30 seconds as we had a geology lesson. I remember how you told me the guy in the video was walking over good ground and how excited you got when you saw the ground he should have been spending his time on. Tailing piles vs mine dumps...the lession went on and on. The knowledge you have imparted to Jon and I through your books and personal lessons has been priceless. We are blessed and very lucky

Jim your a TOUGH ol miner. Yep Mackay was a miner....and your a tough one at that. Your one of there best. All I can say is THANKS.


PS Bill, You got to know how much Jim respects you what you have done for this industry. And how much he loves this electric campfire...So as Jim would say throw another log on boys...let it burn.


Guys... Jim love to be told how much you like him. We all like to be appreciated. BUT what Jim really likes it educating. So if there are any questions or problems you got...ASK. He might be able to help. Be patient, at 84 some times it can take a little longer. I got to say this though. I do not know many 84 year olds that use the computer as good as Jim. Any questions? Throw a log on, lets get this baby burning.

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Hey Jim -

I got to listen to Bill's presentation in Las Vegas and he did a great job. When I drove back from Las Vegas to Reno, my dad and I went through eastern Nevada, stopping in Delamar, Pioche and Ely. We went by a mountain you are familiar with - and when I went past, it made me think of you. The photo below is Dutch John Mountain south of Ely as seen from Highway 93 going north toward Ely.

In another line, I was just doing some research the other day reading through Vic Kral's 1951 report on the mines of Nye County. He was a great guy and I know you knew Victor when you were at Mackey. Lots of interesting old properties out in Nye County.



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WOW... Chris; Osceola, Delamar, Taylor, as well as Dutch John and Pioche

and many other areas such as Manhattan, Clifford, Stone Cabin and other

areas are well known areas for me as I was born, raised in Ely Nevada.

I first met Mr. Kral in the fall of 1948... As you know he was with the

Bureau of Mines. He was at the counter of the publication sales desk and

I came to buy a copy of Bernard York's "The Geology of Nevada Ore Deposits."

I guess this really caught Mr. Kral's attention, especially when I mentioned

Don Lani and others such as George Ruby, were friends of mine.

Gosh Chris, I could go on and on with precious memories regarding Mr. Kral.

as left the Bureau and returned later. It took me six years to graduate as I

worked my way from 1948 until the fall of 1954... I was lucky to be awarded

the Jones-Hoover Scholarship award in the fall of 1954; thanks to Mr. Kral

backing me as the "most deserving" and in August of 1954 I was awarded

my BS in Geological Engineering. I was to officially graduate with

the class of 1955, but I was by then on active duty as a Platoon Leader in

a Combat Engineer Unit. Ft. Leonard Wood Missouri. So I never graduated in a cape

and gown ceremony at Nevada.... Over the years Mr. Kral and I kept up our

friendship over the years but missed his "December" Marriage with one of his

classmates when he was a student at Nevada; they were both by then in their 80's

widow/widowers. (Gosh my age now!) More later... tailgate

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Chris that mountain looks very stealth...cool pic!

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Rim... the photo was taken on the s-e side of Dutch John Mtn. Somewhat near Pony Springs

just off the old highway. Dutch John was a heliograph station back in the 1860's. The

station is now a site and I have no idea what is left. But in the early 1930's it still

was untouched by relic seekers. The photo as viewed maybe about 35 miles north of Pioche.

For some unknown and mysterious reason my Dad thought he had discovered a potential

gossan capping overlaying a potential sulphide deposit at "Mule Shoe" a basin like area

on the far back s-w side of Dutch John... To cut to the quick I briefly mention my experiences

as a child frequently, especially in Vol. 3; 7th Edition Appendix E.

Hey Bill Southern: You have my permission as author, to post page # 280 as written in "The

Nuggetshooter's Bible." WOW... I could write a book regarding my memories at Dutch John.


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Thank Jim for the history lesson about the mountain. Never heard of a heliograph station before so did a little diggin out of curiosity.

Pretty nifty device back in those times. Sure faster then riding a horse...lol


Here's a pretty good page on Dutch John.


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A camera will do a dandy picture of a magazine page Bill...Close up for us peeps with weak eyes...hehe!!!

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Rim... I cannot begin to express how much all of this has meant to me.

After a very trying four years I'm now on the mend. Walking with a cane

and even driving... but short trips in the day and no freeways (yet).

Birthdays are just numbers; I can do it; even a unit of badly needed

blood. Everyone... I'm only able to post this; thanks to Bill Southern

as explained in the first post to Bill... Bill pays for this forum and

it is not free. But we all know this... And we all thank him... This I

know... You All are the Best... More Later... tailgate

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On that same leg of the trip back to Reno, my dad and I kicked around Pioche and Caselton a bit. Very interesting area, and it still has potential for base metal mining (with minor silver). Lots of history in that part of the country.

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Au Seeker... you have helped me (everyone!) so much in so many

ways over the years. You give so much to all... "God, Family, Friends and Gold."

Gold has been found in South Carolina: Both the Brewer (placer) and Halle(lode)

deposits are well known. Actually many eastern states were producing both

placer and hardrock long before gold was discovered in California.

Were the eastern miners more knowledgeable and therefor more successful during

the 1849 California gold rush? Maybe this would be a good subject to talk about

on one of our electronic campfires?

More Later, and May God Be With You.... Tailgate aka Dutch John

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Glad to hear your doing better Jim as it proves the old saying---You cannot keep a good man down---and your one of our finest-tons a au 2 u 2-respect-John

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Howdy Red_desert.... are you by chance located near one of the many major or

minor Indiana glacial moraine deposits, or a moraine terminous. ?

Rimshot... going back to your post #40, I checked your link about "pocket hunting for

gold." It was written by Dave Tossaint. I hunted with Dave back whem he was working

for Fisher (Los Banos) when Mr. Lewellen was still CEO. We spent about a week

north of Tungsten Nevada several other Fisher Reps. Dave was Fishers Technical

writer and wrote many articles both freelance and for Fisher.

David writes about Preston Vickery while in northen Nevada. It sure seems to be

from what Mr. Vickery tells David that he (Mr. Vickery) was finding epithermal pods.

While the term "epitihermal" is not mentioned, the disciptions seem to indicate he

was locating pods.

Another very successful pocket-miner is George Duffy Jr. who is well known in

Lovelock Nevada. George has found over 100 pockets. The largest was 40 ounces

(Reference ICMJ vol 74, No. 1; September 2004 issue.


I'm still dreaming about your post. Now listen guy's, if they can do it, so can you. I figure there are many place's that have been un-touched in a long, long, time. So if you can re-trace these two lucky guy's, you just might get lucky too. The ways I see it much erosion has taken place over the year's and new (old) gold might be within easy reach of where these guy's once walked. JMO.

It never hurt's to try and find gold where gold has been found before. And just maybe, where gold has never been found before.

Good luck!


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Bill.... Absolutely Great! Walking better, but tire easily and my left knee limits me.

I'm pretty much alone and keep busy with housekeeping choirs... But that's okay too.

As you probably have noticed I'm posting more with longer posts... As you know

my small single-blanket "Straights Publishing Company" now in its 33 year now

belongs to Dan Taylor and has been expanded with many new venues. However

I'm still somewhat involved. I'm truly excited about the recent Yelland meteorite

find.... As I was born and raised in Ely Nevada I still am an old Ely "boy" at heart

and helplessly watch it slowly fade away as ruthless technological advances has

hit it with a stiff blow and it's brightest future may be the relics of the past which

brings in tourists from all over to step back into time and see how it was 100 years

ago when copper mining was going full scale. more later... Tailgate jim.

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Well Here I be on this Tuesday afternoon. I hope all fathers had as great

a fathers day as I did... It was great to be able to drive to "COCO's by

myself and have breakfast with my family; especially since my oldest daughter

Betsy was there as she had recent surgery for the big "C".

:) about watching out for redheaded (henna dyed) women wearing black

under ware, my grandfather William R. Miller, to ease tensions as

I said goodby to him in September, 1948 to enroll at Mackay School of

Mines (UN(Reno). This was the last time I saw him as he passed away

in 1954. He was truly a "lace boot mining engineer."

I must confess I've been sort'a temporarily neglecting posting

on this forum... I have been posting on Bills Meteorite forum

as my interest has been in meteorites since 1949 as our earth

is made up entirely of space rocks. So, I've also been posting on

the Yelland Dry Lake meteorite link... The first find is known

as the "Nevada Yelland Dry Lake Meteorite by Ely Nevada."

If'n any one reading this post and is interested in "aerolites,"

a term that is becoming more popular while referring to the

Stony metorites that are being found in dry lakes and salt flats.

I also recommend that you visit this forum too... jim

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