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WASHINGTON -- To save the imperiled spotted owl, the Obama administration is moving forward with a controversial plan to shoot barred owls, a rival bird that has shoved its smaller cousin aside.

The plan is the latest federal attempt to protect the northern spotted owl, the passive, one-pound bird that sparked an epic battle over logging in the Pacific Northwest two decades ago.

The government set aside millions of acres of forest to protect the owl, but the bird's population continues to decline - a 40 percent slide in 25 years.

A plan announced Tuesday would designate habitat considered critical for the bird's survival, while allowing logging to reduce the risk of catastrophic wildfire and to create jobs. Habitat loss and competition from barred owls are the biggest threats to the spotted owl.

Interior Secretary Ken Salazar called the draft plan "a science-based approach to forestry that restores the health of our lands and wildlife and supports jobs and revenue for local communities."

By removing selected barred owls and better managing forests, officials can give communities, foresters and land managers in three states important tools to promote healthier and more productive forests, Salazar said.

The new plan, which replaces a 2008 Bush administration plan that was tossed out in federal court, affects millions of acres of national, state and private forest land in Washington, Oregon and Northern California.

The plan to kill barred owls would not be the first time the federal government has authorized killing of one species to help another. California sea lions that feast on threatened salmon in the Columbia River have been killed in recent years after efforts to chase them away or scare them failed.

The U.S. Agriculture Department kills thousands of wild animals each year - mostly predators such as coyotes - to protect livestock. Other animals, including bears, wolves and raccoons also are killed through the program.

The latest plan for spotted owls was accompanied by a presidential memorandum directing Interior to take a number of steps before the plan is finalized, including providing clear direction for how logging can be conducted within areas designated as critical habitat and conducting an economic analysis at the same time critical habitat areas are proposed.

Officials acknowledge that the plan to kill barred owls creates an ethical dilemma, but say an experiment on private land in northern California has shown promising results. Spotted owls have returned to historic territories after barred owls were removed.

Salazar and other officials stressed the new plan's job-creation component, noting that for the first time logging would be allowed in areas designated as critical habitat for the owl. Previous plans had prohibited logging in areas designated as critical habitat.

"Appropriate timber harvests consistent with ecological forestry principles (should) be encouraged," the Interior Department said in a statement.

The American Forest Resource Council, a timber industry group, was skeptical that so-called ecological logging would produce a significant amount of timber or jobs. At the same time, the plan has the potential to double the amount of acres designated as critical habitat, said Tom Partin, the group's president.

"Habitat is not the current limiting factor for the northern spotted owl, nor is historic loss of old-growth" trees, Partin said. "In fact, the amount of old growth on our federal forests is increasing while the spotted owl's numbers are decreasing."

Conservationists also were wary. Steve Holmer of the American Bird Conservancy said his group was pleased that the administration was moving carefully to kill barred owls, but said officials appeared to be endorsing a big boost in logging inside critical habitat boundaries with no scientific studies showing it works.

The federal government has been trying to find a balance between logging and fish and wildlife habitat since at least the late 1980s. The spotted owl was designated as threatened under the Endangered Species Act in 1990 - an action that led to massive logging cutbacks on national forests and other federal lands in western Washington, Oregon and Northern California.

The bird was blamed for the loss of tens of thousands of jobs and landed on the cover of Time magazine.

Despite federal efforts to protect it, the spotted owl continues to decline. A key reason is the barred owl, a larger, more aggressive East Coast cousin that has displaced spotted owls through much of their historic range.

Just how many barred owls would be killed and where remains undecided, although officials said hundreds of birds are likely to be killed with shotguns. The plan also calls for non-lethal removal of the barred owls, by capturing them and relocating them or placing in them in permanent captivity.

"We can't ignore the mounting evidence that competition from barred owls is a major factor in the spotted owl's decline, and we have a clear obligation to do all we can to prevent the spotted owl's extinction and help it rebound," said Fish and Wildlife Service Director Dan Ashe.

Eric Forsman, a U.S. Forest Service scientist whose work in the 1970s showed how the decline in spotted owls was tied to logging old-growth forests, was skeptical that killing barred owls would make a difference.

"There are not enough shotguns," he said. "It would be just about like trying to wipe out coyotes."

The Interior Department will accept public comments on the plan for 90 days

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Maybe to save the endangered coho salmon we should allow dynamite fishing for steelhead or to save the conservative voter we should just start shooting dems! What a friggin stupid plan this is........

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I agree Steve ... maybe not with the same solutions ... LOL ... but I certainly think there is a little too much interference in nature by these "well intensioned 'naturalists'"! Nature has a way of regulating itself if only left alone to do it. Not allowing logging in a forest short of forest fires eventually kills the wildlife within as it chokes out the growth on the forest floor which in turn prevents the growth of food for the owls in terms of mice ... which eat the seeds and berries ... that would grow if logging were allowed to happen ... which allows sunshine in to the forest floor ... which allows growth of seed and berry vegetation ... which allows mice and other small rodents to thrive ... which provides fodder for the owls! It is Mother Nature's Circle of Life! If humans are going to interfere ... then let the loggers do selective cutting ... it is scientifically proven to work!

Mike F

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The bottom line is the American people are being forced to pay for this stupidity.

"We can't ignore the mounting evidence that competition from barred owls is a major factor in the spotted owl's decline, and we have a clear obligation to do all we can to prevent the spotted owl's extinction and help it rebound," said Fish and Wildlife Service Director Dan Ashe.

Eric Forsman, a U.S. Forest Service scientist whose work in the 1970s showed how the decline in spotted owls was tied to logging old-growth forests, was skeptical that killing barred owls would make a difference.

"There are not enough shotguns," he said. "It would be just about like trying to wipe out coyotes."

The Interior Department will accept public comments on the plan for 90 days.

My suggestion would be to stop funding these bureaucrats altogether. Let them go out and get real jobs and use what we are paying them to pay off the debt they have racked up. This country needs to get back to mining, logging and manufacturing. Not tomorrow or the next day, TODAY!

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And in two years time your going to be hearing about the Field Mouse and Rat Infestation going on over the 2000 miles around the Great Pinny Woods. LOL

Then they will be complaining how the Rodent Poison is getting in the Water killing the Salmon.

Shut down the Mining so they can do 7 year study on the situation.

Declare the Barred Owl Endangered.

Close off the Piney Woods to Vehicular travel.

Blaming Bush for the current dilemma, they will import the three toed sloth mouse to the piney woods as supplemental food for the owl that later will be found to conflict with the Norther Gecko eating all those Banded Grass hoppers.

Ect, Ect, Ect! LOL

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It turns out the GEcko was eating the Harvester ants -which was a prime food source for the rear -footed, 6-toed horned lizard.

Biologists noted that Harvester ants were keeping the Argentine ANts at bay,,, but when the harvester's disappeareed, ,,, Argentine's over-populated several counties causing all picnics to be outlawed( prime food source for Argentine ants).

Red and white check tablecloths were also outlawed,locally, as they triggered nearby ant populations to swarm. Food was not needed to cause this reaction.

The onslaught continues to this day...

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It turns out the GEcko was eating the Harvester ants -which was a prime food source for the rear -footed, 6-toed horned lizard.

Biologists noted that Harvester ants were keeping the Argentine ANts at bay,,, but when the harvester's disappeareed, ,,, Argentine's over-populated several counties causing all picnics to be outlawed( prime food source for Argentine ants).

Red and white check tablecloths were also outlawed,locally, as they triggered nearby ant populations to swarm. Food was not needed to cause this reaction.

The onslaught continues to this day...

So absurd.... But the absurdity displayed in this post is the reality we are all facing today :bang: Well written, not funny, but :hahaha:

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"Interior Secretary Ken Salazar called the draft plan "a science-based approach to forestry that restores the health of our lands and wildlife and supports jobs and revenue for local communities."

By removing selected barred owls and better managing forests, officials can give communities, foresters and land managers in three states important tools to promote healthier and more productive forests, Salazar said."

This man has obviously lost his marbles as has everyone else in the Obama administration. According to this article, they are MOVING FORWARD with this plan.

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We should arm the Barred owls and let them fight it out with the

Fish and Wildlife idiots. :ROFL:

Also the owl thing has been used in every state that has Federal Forest

land,not just the three mentioned. For starters the feds and greenies can

not prove that the Spotted owl population was ever any larger than it is now.

If anything their actions have done more damage to wildlife than good. They

have destroyed more forest in the last few years than all the resource users

have in history.

Barred owls and spotted owls have coexisted forever,and Barred owls have

always attacked Spotted owls. I say just let the owls sort it out,both were

doing fine before the government and greenies got involved.

If it is not the owl it will be something else used for an excuse to destroy the

forest and the economy,and feed their lunacy. It is funny how the Goshawk

is endangered,but yet there is one nesting in every grove of timber. What

is even funnier is they have taken up nesting in the logged over areas in

bigger numbers. Like every thing else,they follow the food,also logged

areas make ideal fledging areas,for the fledglings when they learn to fly.

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So absurd.... But the absurdity displayed in this post is the reality we are all facing today :bang: Well written, not funny, but :hahaha:

I just played up a little what HOmefire started.

More than likely there will need to be monitoring of all this killing by the Fed/State F&G biologists and wardens.,,,,, and studies and tagging and radio collars and the proliferation of companies that make tranquilizer gun darts/tracking collars/radio/"Jeepyes" Beacons..

Of course there will be a new sticker/tag you can purchase to go on your hunting permit

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Maybe we can set up bleachers and charge admission to this fiasco or get the movie rights.

Seriously, I just sent a link to 60 Minutes. This is too good not to share.

I hope they don't use lead shot...

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So...They are gonna let the loggers do their thing and shoot some owls instead. Where is the rub with that one?

I see the lunacy of the whole idea but lets face it, if the administration is going to suppport timber harvests and target some other "spotted owl killing villain" I think you should be happy? No?

Environmentalism is not going to suddenly disappear. It is a real concern for people an a money making machine. We can not expect any policy that any administration supports to be even remotely logical. All we can ask is, "How does it play in reality?" This one seems like a great compromise to me. Shoot a few owls, let some timber be harvested and try to give something to the idiots on both sides of the political spectrum.

If'n I can get work at a sawmill or driving a truck and moonlight killing owls for the FS at a buck or two a head I would be as happy as a pig in deep mud. God Bless Ken Salazar! Now I can take my shotgun shells off as a deduction on next years taxes and do my part to save the earth too!

WHY FIGHT IT????

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