Dakota Slim Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Court strikes down parking fees in Arizona forestRoadside picnickers, hikers and campers using undeveloped areas of a southern Arizona forest cannot be charged for what amount to parking fees, a federal appeals court ruled in a case that plaintiffs say could have broad impact on U.S. Forest Service policies.The Coronado National Forest collects fees from all drivers who park in a mile-wide swath of forest running along the 28-mile Catalina Highway, the only paved road to the top of Mount Lemmon outside of Tucson.Forest officials had argued that the fees are valid because drivers, regardless of whether they plan to recreate in developed areas, have access to amenities required under federal law for the high-impact recreation area.The 9th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals called that argument illogical in a Thursday ruling and sided with recreational users."Everyone is entitled to enter national forests without paying a cent," Judge Robert Gettleman wrote for the San Francisco-based court, overturning a trial court's decision.Congress enacted a structure in 2004 that gives federal land management agencies authority for 10 years over recreation fees, but the fees are limited to sites that have a certain level of development, such as parking, toilets, trash bins, picnic tables and security services. The Recreation Enhancement Act prohibits the Forest Service from charging standard fees for things such as hiking, picnicking and camping in undeveloped areas after people park.Forests nationwide already were undergoing a review of the act when the 9th Circuit handed down its decision. The agency didn't give specific direction other than to rename high-impact recreation areas. Some forests have proposed eliminating fees or breaking up areas in which fees are assessed."In light of what we've heard from the public, in light of how some of the language is interpreted in the courts and in light of what's truly fair, we're working at this level with the forests to determine, `are we really in line with the intent,'" of the act, said Karen Carter, a spokeswoman for the Forest Service's Southwestern Region, based in Albuquerque, N.M.Mary Ellen Barilotti, one of the plaintiffs' attorneys in the Mount Lemmon case, said she is hopeful the appellate court ruling will bolster a case she recently re-filed over fees for parking and stopping at scenic overlooks at Mount Evans in Colorado. Barilotti said she's also helped people representing themselves in similar cases in Washington and Oregon."I can't imagine, assuming it's finalized, that it won't affect all other places," she said.The Coconino National Forest's Red Rock Ranger District recently changed its recreation fee structure following a case in which a Sedona man successfully fought a citation he received for parking at a trailhead then hiking into the forest and camping for a night at a non-developed, dispersed site. The federal government argued that the trailhead was in a 160,000-acre area where an amenity fee could be charged under the Recreation Enhancement Act, but a federal magistrate disagreed and dismissed the citation.The fee area in the northern Arizona district that gets about 1.5 million visitors a year has now been reduced to 11,000 acres. A day pass is $5, and an annual pass is $20."If any of the recreation folks choose not to buy the pass, it will be the resident who knows where to go not to pay the fee," said district spokeswoman Connie Birkland. "It's not that they don't support the program."Chris Wallace, of Tucson, is not a fan of the recreation fee at Mount Lemmon. She said she considers it another tax on residents who already contribute to the maintenance of public lands. She was cited in 2005 for parking in front of a locked gate that led to a campground and picnic area, and a second time for parking near a trailhead without paying. One ticket was dropped, but she had to pay a fine for the latter.Wallace was among the group of recreationists who sued the Forest Service over fees at Mount Lemmon, although she was dismissed as a plaintiff."I'm hoping this case will show how unpopular these fee structures have been and that Congress will do away with them," she said. "Ultimately, I'm looking for a legislative remedy to it as well."From http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AZ_FOREST_RECREATION_FEES_AZOL-?SITE=AZYUM&SECTION=STATE&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-02-10-18-47-28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nugget Shooter Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 One small step for the good guys! Thanks Slim..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakota Slim Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 I haven't been down there to experience this money grabbing by the Forest Service but let's consider what they were saying before this court case...."Forest officials had argued that the fees are valid because drivers, regardless of whether they plan to recreate in developed areas, have access to amenities required under federal law for the high-impact recreation area.That's like the barber saying you owe for a haircut if you simply walk or drive by his shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homefire Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Getting like that everywhere.Jerks come up with a Fee Fee when they think they can get away with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nugget Shooter Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Getting like that everywhere.Jerks come up with a Fee Fee when they think they can get away with it.Sooooo if ya have a poodle it is a fee fee fee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homefire Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Double Fee Fee Fee's if they Chit in the woods!Can't be haven no Fee Fee Chit ya know.Only room for Bear, Wolf, Possum and Coon Chit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodd in B.C. Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 How many of you remember the public pay toilets costing 10 centsall crappers were pay at one time..Rodd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homefire Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Here in NM the Forest Toilets is the last place you want to do a Dump! LOLNever mind no TP!Usually the floor is lined with Poopy Paper and the seat has crap on it.Better to just find a bush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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