richs Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 While taking advantage of a slow day at work I came across this on another site. This really sucks.AZ Dept of MinesRich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldfinger Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I wondered what happens to the museum in Phoenix or has that already been closed?Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 It really is a shame what the state is doing to the Dept. That building is an icon to mining history in Arizona and all the efforts of volunteers, and staff will be remembered. Anyone that has never had the chance should go see it today. I assume all the gold , meteorites ,and mineral specimens on loan can be retrieved after the 21st? or have already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nugget Shooter Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 That is just unbelievable and sad.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt18000 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 One by One there all being shut down due to the states over spending. That will make it just that much harder for large Corp.s to start up new mines so that means fewer jobs and even less money to the state. Do you get the feeling that this country is going to hell in a hand basket at a VERY fast rate? I DO!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucket Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Dont forget, the feds are suing Arizona over the right to protect its own borders....and lawyers dont come cheap, nothing worse than spending money when you shouldnt have to. Only in America can you find a government suing one of its own states for enforcing its own laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B. Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Hi AllThe mines department upstairs in the mineral museum with all the archives, files and staff are the ones going. The museum itself is still operating and has been taken over by the Az Historical Society. I'm told the Historical Society will maintain the mineral museum till the end of the yearish or until they get funding for the conversion of the museum and building to the Az centennial museum. Adam is correct there is a nice exhibit of gold and meteorites there as well as other rocks and minerals worth a few hours enjoying before they are gone as well. Over the years I have done some research on mines , claims and production in the upstairs archives. Everytime the info shocked me including old newspaper and magazine articles. It will be missed by all and hope some private concern could salvage the archives . Happy Huntin John B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennM Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Why couldn't it be privately acquired/maintained?I mean, there's too much history in that archive to just be tossed out in the dumpster.This is frustrating as all get out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Oh dang , I guess my info was a little off. I didnt realize that the upstairs was like a separate entity in a way. Regardless, those files they have should be moved to wherever the State Mine inspector will be and be made available to the public as before.This really sucks,as I have done some research in the past up there as well.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoser John Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 This is just step 2 in the 3 pronged attack on our mining legacy-first litigate us to death,then wipe out all records and then 100% illegal and viola the elves at Home Depot will then manufacture all the drywall,cement,gravels,steel and such from enviro pixie dust forevermore--- John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Soloman Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 This has been in the works for some time. Many of us wrote letters to - among others - Sen. McCain, Congresswoman Giffords, and Governor Brewer, trying to save the offices, website and museum. There are efforts underway to privately fund an alternative, but it is still in its infancy. - Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldfinger Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Hi AllThe mines department upstairs in the mineral museum with all the archives, files and staff are the ones going. The museum itself is still operating and has been taken over by the Az Historical Society. I'm told the Historical Society will maintain the mineral museum till the end of the yearish or until they get funding for the conversion of the museum and building to the Az centennial museum. Adam is correct there is a nice exhibit of gold and meteorites there as well as other rocks and minerals worth a few hours enjoying before they are gone as well. Over the years I have done some research on mines , claims and production in the upstairs archives. Everytime the info shocked me including old newspaper and magazine articles. It will be missed by all and hope some private concern could salvage the archives . Happy Huntin John B.I have been to the museum a few times when I was living in AZ. Excellent collection of minerals and a great source of information in archives. If that disappears, it will be a serious loss. Hopefully it can all be saved for future public use.Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Soloman Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Just a quick reminder of when this was first posted here on Bill's forum - Terry"Posted 11 March 2010 - 07:26 PM What is happening toThe Arizona Mining and Mineral Museum?Governor Brewers Plan:NOT due to budget cutsExecution attempted in secret5C Centennial Exhibit: Cotton, Citrus, Cattle, Copper ClimateDesigned and built by out of state firmTransferred to Arizona Historical SocietyBrewers tangled talesIncreased cost to taxpayersWhat may be lost:State tradition preceding statehoodSupport for K-12 educationOutdoor displaysMost of mineral collectionEducational displaysLapidary art and shopMining technologyDonations and volunteers timePolly Rosenbaums legacyWhat you can do:Oppose any bill eliminating AMMM in House and SenateExpress disapproval to Governor (election year)Contact Centennial Commission, especially potential donorsExpress disapproval to contractor: Gallagher & Assoc.Alert teachers and studentsContact news media throughout stateParticipate in international discussion - www.mindat.orgIntroduce issue to election campaign MikeAZ4AUWSPA #60" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micro Nugget Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Sounds a little like the way Cali went some long time back. I can't even remember how many decades ago the California Division of Mines was axed, but I do remember the fabulous mineral displays of a great age gone bye-bye -- at least here in SoCal. My heart goes out to you AZ guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Sad to hear this ,I would be in there making copies for later research if i lived close by,I can,t imagine they would throw it away,Does the stuff fall into the antiquities act? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoser John Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I don't live in Az and proably will never see the place BUT wrote a letter to the gov and cash to preserve any museum on mining is money well spent--John :twocents: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Au Seeker Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 As of yesterday it looks like the all the files and reports on mines and mineral resources are going to saved after all , the Arizona Geological Survey (AZGS) finalized an agreement with Arizona Dept. of Mines & Mineral Resources (ADMMR) that turns over custody of the documents to AZGS!!! Also Five of the six ADMMR staff accepted offers to transfer to AZGS!!! http://arizonageology.blogspot.com/2011/01/we-have-deal-azgs-will-keep-mine-files.html This might be better as it's basically joining the 2 agencies together! Skip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoser John Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 :whoope: Happy days are here again and yess my child in days of old there were miners :cigar: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nugget Shooter Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 I like good news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennM Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 This is possibly the best outcome that could have come from this mess. The brain power and knowledge of these two departments has great potential! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldfinger Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Hi Guys-The University of Arizona is selling part of its mineral collection.http://azstarnet.com/news/local/821115e1-e07f-5cd8-a5a5-ec9f703cb530.htmlhttp://www.uamineralmuseum.org/I think I saw this collection when I was in Tucson for the shows a few years ago. Great collection with many species available for viewing. Sad to see them have to sell part of that collection.Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highbanker58 Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 That was great news. The more ground we loose the closer we are to loosing our freedom!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nugget Shooter Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 That was great news. The more ground we loose the closer we are to loosing our freedom!!!We already have lost most...The freedoms we still have all have a "BUT" attached...You can own your own land, But...You can own a gun, but...You can use public lands, but...You can live the American dream, but...I will now check myself as I feel a rant brewing when I get going on this crap. It is hard to follow my own forums guidelines at times when I get pondering on what may be coming in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcache Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 We already have lost most...The freedoms we still have all have a "BUT" attached...You can own your own land, But...You can own a gun, but...You can use public lands, but...You can live the American dream, but...I will now check myself as I feel a rant brewing when I get going on this crap. It is hard to follow my own forums guidelines at times when I get pondering on what may be coming in the future. Our rights are being turned into privileges then we are made to pay for them. Afterwards, on a whim they are taken away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoser John Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Glad to see they are still there but bummer to see even duplicates sold as may be same mineral BUT they vary in amazing ways in accordance to purity,deposition method ,size and quality-John <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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