El Dorado 964 Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 These appear to be copper rivets. I was wondering if anyone can ID and possibly date them. Found not to far from early immigrant trails. One looks unused and the worn one does still weakly show the same star Quote Link to post Share on other sites
grubstake 656 Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 Steve, they look more like cufflinks, I have found something like that that were cufflinks, no rivets. From Fremonts Bunch. Grubstake Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Dorado 964 Posted March 12, 2010 Author Share Posted March 12, 2010 That would be cool. From other items I have recovered, I think there may have been an encampment. This is the only item that I feel might be able to be dated........ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
garimpo 2,288 Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Steve what does the back of them look like? I believe grubby is real close...my guess is from a military tunic...collar...shoulder boards...or maybe even a military saddle...a Dragoon Officers hat to hold up one side. :twocents: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SlickT 0 Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 NICE FIND !!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
garimpo 2,288 Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Steve can you give us pics of the back side? Can you describe the scene on the one on the left...the other one is a star..I've lightened up the two a little looking for more detail... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Dorado 964 Posted March 14, 2010 Author Share Posted March 14, 2010 will this help. Also re read first post Quote Link to post Share on other sites
garimpo 2,288 Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 A lot of possibilities...my thoughts they were used on saddlesor bridles or connecting the reins on the 4...6...8 horse wagontrains....still a neat find... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bedrock Bob 3,962 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 That is a pair of cuff links. I have found dozens of them. Bob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sawmill 69 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 What you have there is two old harness rivets.One has been used hence the messed up star on thehead and compressed shank. The other was new andunused,probably dropped during a repair. Most havetrademark designs on the head.The star is only atrademark. The burrs or washers are missing. Harness rivetsare real common and are still used for all kinds ofrepairs. Every Farmer, teamster,and cowboy packed them for repairs of all kinds. Hell I have a couplepounds of them in the shop. :yuk-yuk: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Dorado 964 Posted March 18, 2010 Author Share Posted March 18, 2010 That was the consensus from the beginning and it makes sense from the other items that were there. I was really hoping that the star might be able to date them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bedrock Bob 3,962 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Steve, they look more like cufflinks, I have found something like that that were cufflinks, no rivets. From Fremonts Bunch. GrubstakeI thought the same from the small picture in the palm. I thought it was a single piece. I am sure that we are probably both talking about the "linked" buttons that held the cuffs of those old wool coats...That is what the first photo looked like. When the larger photos came up they are plainly common rivets. Do these employ a helical thread or a "jag" where they go together? It is difficult to tell with the photos. The threaded ones are fairly recent, but the old "jag" type pressed together with the blow of a hammer. Also, some were punched on the back using a mushroom die punch and employed a washer that went around the shank. I have a few with the star, one with a horseshoe, and two with "U.S." stamped into the heads. The "U.S." kind emply a washer on the back and are punched. The horseshoe type is shteaded and has a "button" nut on the back. The "stars" seem to be late 1800's from where I found them.Bob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kuger 0 Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 I think I responded to you else where,but as Sawmill said they are rivets,made by the Storm Co.I only find them in 1860 ish sites and yes a lot of em along the immigrant trail! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kjq10a 0 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Nice find...great shape too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
highbanker58 10 Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Really nice find.Thats what I love about this sport.You never know whats going to come out of the hole in the scoop. Dave Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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