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Just got this forecast and it looks like there may be some fresh gold coming down stream. Hope it flushes everything. Good time for some before and after shots to show how mother nature takes care of things. All that terrible damage the panners and dreggers have done will be erased....... Maybe mother nature hasn't heard about the court order banning all dregging!!!!! Someone call the F/S boys and warn them that she fix'in to move the river bottom around ................

ALONG THE WEST COAST THERE ARE AT LEAST 3 TO 4 SURGES COMING INTO THE WEST COAST IN THE FAST PACIFIC FLOW THIS PERIOD EACH WITH ROUNDS OF HEAVY PRECIPITATION. AT THIS TIME THERE IS REASONABLE AGREEMENT ON THE SHORTWAVES EMBEDDED IN THE FLOW TO COME IN AROUND AT-SUN..MON..TUES AND ANOTHER THURS-FRI WITH MORE TO FOLLOW. MONDAYS SURGE HITS THE ENTIRE COAST FROM VANCOUVER SOUTH TO PT CONCEPTION BUT THEN AS THE HEIGHTS FALL AND THE JET CORE SHIFTS SOUTHWARD THE TARGET AREA WILL BE MORE INTO CENTRAL CA AND SOUTHERN CA TUESDAY ONWARD.

THIS EVENT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO APPROACH OR RIVAL THE JANUARY/FEBRUARY 1998 EL NINO EVENT IN CENTRAL CA AND THE JAN 1995 TIME FRAME FOR SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. QPF TOTALS FROM MODEL GUIDANCE ARE VERY HIGH WITH AN OVERALL RANGE OF 7-12 LIQUID INCHES DURING THIS FORECAST PERIOD OVER COASTAL REGIONS/SIERRA. EXPECT CONSIDERABLY HIGHER AMOUNTS

OVER A MULTIDAY PERIOD WITH 10-20 INCH MOUNTAIN AMOUNTS WITH EVEN HIGHER OVER FAVORABLE TERRAIN. SIERRA MOUNTAIN SNOWS MAY BE IN THE 8-12 FOOT RANGE. AS THE JET CORE SHIFTS SOUTHWARD THE HEAVIER PRECIPITATION WILL BE MORE CONCENTRATED INTO SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WHERE SIMILAR RAINFALL NUMBERS MAYBE OVER ESPECIALLY FAVORABLE TERRAIN. SOME LOCAL FAVORED TERRAIN AREAS WILL MOST LIKELY APPROACH "20" INCH LIQUID AMOUNTS DURING THIS PERIOD WITH THE EVENT "CONTINUING PAST OUR 7 DAY RANGE", YIELDING EVEN HIGHER TOTALS. VERY HEAVY SNOWS CAN BE EXPECTED OVER HIGHER TERRAIN AND A FLOODING/MUDSLIDE PROBLEMS APPEAR LIKELY. A HEAVY RAIN THREAT FOR ARIZONA APPEARS IN STORE THURSDAY INTO SATURDAY

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Just got this forecast and it looks like there may be some fresh gold coming down stream. Hope it flushes everything. Good time for some before and after shots to show how mother nature takes care of things. All that terrible damage the panners and dreggers have done will be erased....... Maybe mother nature hasn't heard about the court order banning all dregging!!!!! Someone call the F/S boys and warn them that she fix'in to move the river bottom around ................

ALONG THE WEST COAST THERE ARE AT LEAST 3 TO 4 SURGES COMING INTO THE WEST COAST IN THE FAST PACIFIC FLOW THIS PERIOD EACH WITH ROUNDS OF HEAVY PRECIPITATION. AT THIS TIME THERE IS REASONABLE AGREEMENT ON THE SHORTWAVES EMBEDDED IN THE FLOW TO COME IN AROUND AT-SUN..MON..TUES AND ANOTHER THURS-FRI WITH MORE TO FOLLOW. MONDAYS SURGE HITS THE ENTIRE COAST FROM VANCOUVER SOUTH TO PT CONCEPTION BUT THEN AS THE HEIGHTS FALL AND THE JET CORE SHIFTS SOUTHWARD THE TARGET AREA WILL BE MORE INTO CENTRAL CA AND SOUTHERN CA TUESDAY ONWARD.

THIS EVENT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO APPROACH OR RIVAL THE JANUARY/FEBRUARY 1998 EL NINO EVENT IN CENTRAL CA AND THE JAN 1995 TIME FRAME FOR SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. QPF TOTALS FROM MODEL GUIDANCE ARE VERY HIGH WITH AN OVERALL RANGE OF 7-12 LIQUID INCHES DURING THIS FORECAST PERIOD OVER COASTAL REGIONS/SIERRA. EXPECT CONSIDERABLY HIGHER AMOUNTS

OVER A MULTIDAY PERIOD WITH 10-20 INCH MOUNTAIN AMOUNTS WITH EVEN HIGHER OVER FAVORABLE TERRAIN. SIERRA MOUNTAIN SNOWS MAY BE IN THE 8-12 FOOT RANGE. AS THE JET CORE SHIFTS SOUTHWARD THE HEAVIER PRECIPITATION WILL BE MORE CONCENTRATED INTO SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WHERE SIMILAR RAINFALL NUMBERS MAYBE OVER ESPECIALLY FAVORABLE TERRAIN. SOME LOCAL FAVORED TERRAIN AREAS WILL MOST LIKELY APPROACH "20" INCH LIQUID AMOUNTS DURING THIS PERIOD WITH THE EVENT "CONTINUING PAST OUR 7 DAY RANGE", YIELDING EVEN HIGHER TOTALS. VERY HEAVY SNOWS CAN BE EXPECTED OVER HIGHER TERRAIN AND A FLOODING/MUDSLIDE PROBLEMS APPEAR LIKELY. A HEAVY RAIN THREAT FOR ARIZONA APPEARS IN STORE THURSDAY INTO SATURDAY

Respectfully where did this forecast come from.....can you provide a "link"?

Gary

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http://www.weather.com/weather/alerts/localalerts/95765?phenomena=TSL&significance=S&areaid=CAZ017&office=KSTO&etn=fe3136555cd5b9cb7b3111ef25f00111658a02d1

3-6 inches in the valley by the end of the week with possibly more in the foothills. Not even close to the 97 flood year, which had record rainfalls for the month of december, followed by 30 inches of tropical, snow melting rain, all the way up to 11,000 feet. Still we should see some much needed rain fall this week.

This pic of the Yuba river during the 97 flood still amazes me.

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You know Sean that high water in the picture above could be deleterious to the redds and Salmon habitate. Or is there only risk to Redds and habitate when passed through a dredge.

:shrug:

Well there actually needs to be redds present for there to be deleterious effects and since this is upstream of a migration blocking darn, no salmon to harm. In fact in the entire Yuba river system there are only 20 miles of river available for salmon spawning. Extensive flooding did occur there to so who knows.

A friend of mine had his house covered in water up to his roof near marysville that year and my small town was somewhat of a refugee area for about a month.

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Got it, thanks. So if the dam wasn't there, redds would be present. So lets pretend the dam isn't there, which it wasn't 150 years ago, don't salmon spawn in the late summer fall and sometimes winter, and the eggs(redds) hatch the next spring. How would they survive a winter like in the picture above.?

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They don't they die. Huge storm kill fish bigtime!! In 91 there was the cantara spill-killed 80+% of everything. 6 years later mother nature threw 2 years a flooding at us and bingo the river lost over 85+% according to CDFG which blew over $50 mil studying the river to death-John

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Hi Sean,

Regarding your picture of the Yuba in floodstage in '97. Did the river exceed turbidity and suspended particulates allowed by the State and the EPA? If so, why has no one sued them for allowing that to happen?

Ben

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It does appear the Redds would perish, and I even think so, but the fact is, I have no scientific evidence to say they do perish in a storm like that. Perhaps one could speculate that they have learned to adapt to such events of nature. Even though it doesn't seem likely.

ScottC.

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When the gravels are stired up to such a point as that type of flooding. Soft little eggs have no chance.

Not all are destroyed but many are.

During bigger floods the gravel bars are in motion,only when the water is receding does the bar get replaced if at all.

Not realy something that overthinking will help to understand.

John

Are ya gittin hit hard down there Hoser?

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As predicted.... it is dumping water here right now. Last hour left .24" and has been about .2" an hour all morning.......... I just hope it stays cold enough to stay as snow up a bit higher in the hills.

Rain has been comming down in buckets here in San Diego for the last couple of hours, wind is blowing steady. This week it's suppose to rain thru up comming weekend.

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:*&$*(: TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much rain washed my darn dam away damnit. Tiny bone dry canyon could support a 8" yesterday :tisk-tisk: absolutely amazing amount of water. Filled 50 sandbags,bought rebar and a dozen bags a cement--it's WAR I tell ya WAR!!!!! :rasberry: tons a au 2 u 2 -John

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:angry-smiley-010[1]: see the yellow exploding face---thats what almost happened to me the last time I was a playn' with dynamite and blew POUNDS OF GOLD all over a 1,000 acres or so-NO MO' FER A OL'DREDGE DOG-tons a au 2 u 2 -John

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