GPX 4500 settings

[Ogi]

Hi,

I got GPX 4500 now and have any problem.

Plz post here u best settings for GPX 4500 whit 8" mono Commander and 11 " DD Coil.I have too 18" mono Coiltek Coil.I need some settings.

[wheelbubble]

good morning ogi...there 3 things you can do...1.read the book...2 use factory pre sets...3 trial and error...that is the only way to learn that machine.....hoss :coffeetime:

[Mike C...]

Wait a minute Hoss--did'nt minelab claim that even a newbee could become a instant pro with the new deeper beeper :coffeetime: Feed back about the new gpx is sure slow to come and the gold as well :innocent0009: come on all you new or few 4500 owners post some gold and results your getting and maybe some settings for the newbees :headphones: Well help this guy out :confused0013: -Mike C... :ph34r2:

[Guest Nuggethunting]

Hey Mike,

I think most that have the GPX-4500 are keeping quiet. I know several guys in California that purchased GPX-4500's that are finding pounds with the new detector.

This last week at Moore Creek myself along with a couple of other friends paid for our trip, GPX-4500's & new coils in just one week. :woohoo: The GPX-4500 has only been out for about 1-2 months and I have found just at 8 ounces with the new detector. Several ounces of smaller gold and 6 ounces at Moore Creek.

I have to agree with Hoss, there are no best settings. The best settings are what you think are best for you on that particular ground your hunting. The settings I'm using at location "A" might not be the best settings for location "B" or "C." The advantage of the GPX series is the fact you have hundreds of combinations of settings you use.

Ogi - play around with all the settings. You will find some have better depth abilities, while others might be better for heavy mineralization or shallower, small gold. The key is to run the GPX-4500 very stable without maximizing your settings too much. If you crank everything up too high you will probably experience a lot of background, or unwanted noise that might cause you to miss the fainter targets.

Hope this helps,

Rob Allison

www.nuggethunting.com

[Mike C...]

Wake up Dorthy Totos here---Come on Rob I might have been born at night but not last night--people are finding pounds of gold in 1-2 months :rofl2: oh and let me guess--all the gold is gold missed by the previous SD/GP's--Right :confused0013: I'll tell you what--I did'nt miss much in my old places with my previous sd and gp and vlf's- :icon_mrgreen: -but yes there were a few missed- :tisc-tisc: -but not pounds :innocent0009: -I have no doubt that the new gpx is slightly better than the previous and I'm sure you could have found the gold with any of the gp's--- Oh by the way congrats on your AK nuggets but keep those kind of stories for the outings at the camp fires :coffeetime: -Mike C... :ph34r2:

[Guest Nuggethunting]

Hey Mike,

I'm awake, are you alseep again? :confused0013: I'm just passing on the feedback the customers came me. I have no clue if they had SD's or GP's over the spot before, just the fact they told me they found over 25 ounces of California gold between the two customers with the new detectors.

Actually Mike, many of the spots I found the Moore Creek gold was scanned over with the GPX-4000's the prior season. One pile has been hammered so hard, even Steve H. was amazed we even found anything on that pile. So it either had to do with my super dooper skills (ya right) or the new GPX-4500 and Goldstalker coil. I really don't care, between Glenn and I we took over a pound in a week.

A matter of fact, we didn't even have use of the dozer, so all of the 21 ounces that was found was found where people have pounded the crap out of it with Minelabs.

P.S. How do you explain how Bob " Montana" Dansie finds thousands of nuggets per year? I just noticed he picked up over 1,200 more gold nuggets with the GPX-4000. I'm sure many of those nuggets were found where he hunted with the SD's and GP's. I would guess he probably has a good 100 or so now with the GPX-4500 knowing Bob. Without a doubt, he's a great hunter, but I sure he would agree the new technology and settings of the newer detectors really help.

Take care,

Rob Allison

www.nuggethunting.com

[Ted Scott]

C'mon Mike. Didn't you know that the machine makes you an expert in a matter of moments?

That means that as soon as you buy the new detector a whole new outlook on research comes into your brain and then you develop a sort of "sixth sense" about where gold is. Oh, and forget the bite test. No more!

Those pounds were found in new patches previously unknown but now found due to the new "Expert" outlook. :twocents:

[kamikaze]

All I can say is that the results I am seeing from Moore Creek is making me sit up and take notice. We hunted hard the first week and then to hear that all those nuggets were taken a week later with some coming from areas we had already hunted makes me take a second look at the 4.5k's capabilities. Additionally, there was a guy there with us the first week who has metal detected for nuggets before but with VLF's. He had a brand new 4.5k and he digs up 4 nuggets on the first day from an area we all hunted last year and that was his first ML PI that he bought no more than a month ago! Not to take away from Rob and Co's metal detecting skils, it would seem that the 4.5k and Goldstalker coil is one hot combination!

[Guest Potholes Bob-NM]

Hey Mike,

I think most that have the GPX-4500 are keeping quiet. I know several guys in California that purchased GPX-4500's that are finding pounds with the new detector.

This last week at Moore Creek myself along with a couple of other friends paid for our trip, GPX-4500's & new coils in just one week. :woohoo: The GPX-4500 has only been out for about 1-2 months and I have found just at 8 ounces with the new detector. Several ounces of smaller gold and 6 ounces at Moore Creek.

I have to agree with Hoss, there are no best settings. The best settings are what you think are best for you on that particular ground your hunting. The settings I'm using at location "A" might not be the best settings for location "B" or "C." The advantage of the GPX series is the fact you have hundreds of combinations of settings you use.

Ogi - play around with all the settings. You will find some have better depth abilities, while others might be better for heavy mineralization or shallower, small gold. The key is to run the GPX-4500 very stable without maximizing your settings too much. If you crank everything up too high you will probably experience a lot of background, or unwanted noise that might cause you to miss the fainter targets.

Hope this helps,

Rob Allison

www.nuggethunting.com

Yeah right, that 4500 detects gold down so deep that you need to prospect with a back hoe...must be good stuff you're smoking there Rob!

Bob

[Guest Nuggethunting]

Hey Gaine,

You know Dean's Mound that produced about a pound of gold the second year. That mound has been hit for 3 seasons with all the Minelab's, including the GPX-4000. I know there's probably not a square inch of that mound that has not been scanned with a Minelab PI. I know that one year I hit it hard with a GP3500 and didn't find much after Rich and Dean found the pound of gold. I know Glenn went back with the GPX-4000 last year and didn't find anything on the mound.

However, this year the GPX-4500's found 6 nice nuggets on that mound. The smallest was 0.31 ounces, the largest was my 1.08 ounce gold nugget. All of them were just whispers, but we found them. The only explaination is the gold is falling from the skies, I'm smoking some good stuff, my skills are mad or the plain truth the GPX-4500's found them.

Steve H. had a good feeling the GPX-4500's were going to turn up more gold this year than prior years. Well he was right, the second week almost doubled the first week's take and we didn't have use of the dozer. We had to hunt ground that was already pounded by the prior week and the mounds that have been hit for 4 seasons now.

Take care,

Rob Allison

www.nuggethunting.com

[FlakMagnet]

Ogi,

PM me with your email address,

I have been keeping a word file of some 4500 info. I was interested in

that people have been posting here and in Oz.

I'd be glad to forward it to you.

It may give you some ideas of where/how to start.

Take little bits of information either from the manual,

your own experience

or what people are talking about on forums

and try them out a little bit at a time.

Expect to spend a few months getting things to make sense.

Don't look for easy ways or easy settings,

learn slowly.

Find someone who knows what they're doing

and go watch them detect;

ask them to listen to their signals when they get a hit,

that will tell you alot.

Watch how they approach what they're doing.

Copy it or modify it to suit your temperment.

The reason someone else's settings wouldn't do you much good

is that you are not detecting in the same conditions.

The settings are dictated by the area and it's mineralization,

and other conditions like interference; wind, aircraft transponders, power lines etc.

What most of these guys who are good do not talk about is

how persistent they have been

how hard they have worked to learn to get good.

It's easy to forget that they all started by asking the kinds of questions you have asked...

Flak

[kamikaze]

Some of this discussion is reminiscent of the release of the GPX 4000. The best analogy I can think of for this would be comparing MS DOS to Windows. The creation of Windows did not cause DOS to become obsolete, just vastly less popular. There a still untold numbers that still use DOS and swear by it just as there are many who still use there SD's and GP's and continue to find good gold. The GPX 4k has proven it's self as an improved detector that gives the detectorist an edge in some circumstances with a newer, arguably easier to use interface. I believe that just as we are free to discuss our opnions here, we are free to choose to embrace the GPX 4500's new technology or continue to use the previous. IMHO

[Mike C...]

Ok I was going to leave this alone but just a few big things were left out of the picture here-like temperature-soil moisture content--position of target--interferience--luck--skill--mother nature like rain and snow that cause erosion :innocent0009: I know that I can still go back to places with the same beeper and still manage to pop one or two and I give credit to the above conditions :icon_mrgreen: IMO ML is still the best when it comes to gold PI's--is the new kid on the block really everything its hyped up to be or is there not as many in circulation as we're led to beleive-I've been wheelin and dealin on the classifieds for a long time-(I have to as many machines as I go through-LOL) and I have definetlly seen a big decline in sales and trades probably do to the economy and I'm sure new sales have been effected as well-hell look at the good deals on 3500's and 4000's and there still sitting there-wheres the reports--the gold--surely we would have started seeing this filter in by now :confused0013: :twocents: -Mike C... :ph34r2: PS--Rob I consider you a good beeperist as well as Montana and there are many others--hell he does'nt even need a beeper to find gold--but lets give mother nature a little credit here as well :bowdown: and Rob why don't you share those secret settings with Ogi that JP turned you on to--come on but save the fish stories for the camp fires :innocent0009:

[Guest Nuggethunting]

Hey Gaine,

Yep, you're probably right. Here is Steve H's comments on the Alaska Forum about the GPX-4500.

Just a short report but bottom line is Week 2 is exceeding Week 1 with over 15 ounces of gold found so far, with over 50 nuggets found. I think I can categorically state that the Minelab GPX-4500 sets a new standard in nugget detecting technology, with nuggets coming out of areas pounded with previous Minelab models. It is like the ground is virgin again, which is good since the dozer has been down all week.

The 4500's done very well at Moore Creek. Without a doubt we found gold where others hit hard. Steve H. seen me take two pieces off a mount right outside of camp and he was amazed. I think they called it "Bob's Mound," one of those Black ones above camp, near the highbanking area. He said the first weekers climbed all over it.

Been hitting some missed nuggets at some patches out West where there is a lot of mineralized conditions. I'm really impressed with the "Enhance" timing.

P.S. Hope we can get together next year in Alaska.

Talk with you later,

Rob Allison

www.nuggethunting.com

[FlakMagnet]

Hey Mike,

regarding your

Flak

[Mike C...]

Hey Flak you beat me -I was editing it :coffeetime: -Mike C... :ph34r2:

[Guest Nuggethunting]

Hey Mike,

I went back and read what you changed on your post. I would agree with you, rain, snow, errosion and other factors do make a difference. However, the first weekers pounded the heck out of these spots with Minelab PI's. Moore Creek is a big area, but the piles are limited and within a week you can hit them all. Some piles were much richer than others, so the rich ones get pounded hard each year in hopes of taking another nice piece. There were two mounds that got hit very hard the first week, Dean's and Bob's. Steve H. was amazed we found anything on these piles.

As for those settings, those were for anyone that purchased a GPX-4500. It was a deal that JP made with me for customers. The settings are not secrets, just some starting points and some explanations of what the settings do beyond what the instructional manual tells you.

For anyone that owes a GPX-4500 I will gladly send it to them.

Take care,

Rob Allison

[Denny]

30 men found 20 ozs in one week and that means a great detector? :tisc-tisc:

[Mike C...]

Rob in that case thats amazing but I would say that was all do to a differance in skill levels as I'm sure you went behind a few 4500's as well--congrats :icon_mrgreen: -Mike C... :ph34r2:

[Guest Nuggethunting]

Hello Guys,

Denny - Where did you get 30 guys? The second week had 15 guys, only about 10 of them detected, the rest dredged and highbanked the entire week. The guys with the GPX-4500's scored the Lion's share of the gold at over 15 of the 21 ounces found. Basically 4 guys out of the 10 scored the bulk of the nuggets with the GPX-4500's. I think that makes a pretty good detector in my book since I've been over this same ground twice with the GP series (GP3000 & GP3500).

Mike C - From my knowledge there wasn't a single GPX-4500 the first week. I believe there was a few GPX-4000's and the rest GP's or SD's. Thanks for your comments. Sure wish some of you guys could have been up there to see what I'm talking about. I'm sure with your skills Mike you would have done just as well, if not better if you hit a nice chunk.

Take care,

Rob Allison

[Mike C...]

:ziplip:

[FlakMagnet]

Rob,

I am not a seasoned detectorist llike you, Mike and alot of guys,

but even I can tell the 4500 is doing something beyond

what the 3500 and the 4000 was doing.

Yes it takes some fiddling with the controls...but thats not hard

if you take the time to learn what they do.

If someone is not particularly interested in 'messing' with controls and settings,

maybe a simpler detector will suffice -

but nothing right now (opinion), is better than this detector.

Obviously, the Stabilizer function

is a major step forward in the interference handling area (fact).

Anyway,

fwiw,

Flak

[Denny]

Guy,s I own a 4500 and i,am quite pleased with its capabilities. :innocent0002:

It sniffs the nuggets right out of the basalt patches :icon_mrgreen: ,Does it get big gold deeper :confused0013: .Do not know aint found one yet>Does it find the small stuff Yep.I have seen that. :tisc-tisc:

Is it smoother than prior models? {yep} :bowdown:

If i found a new patch full of great big nuggets, would i think it was the detector? {no}

I find it odd when anyone asks for this info on settings no one put,s out except FLAk.{thanks} :whoopie:

I guess there is a little greed in the gold buis {nothing new}:Huh_anim]:

It is true that settings vary greatly depending on your soil or area. Thay are very specific for specific conditions.It is a practice and learn game.Only thru trial and error will anyone be good. :twocents:

I never did agree with the pro right out of the box thing either.

If you owned a 4000 it will be helpfull.{Because you know what the machine is telling you> :innocent0009:

[Guest Nuggethunting]

Hey Flak,

I don't know if I would call myself a seasoned detectorist, but I have spent the last 15 years using the Minelabs with good success. I'm really impressed with the GPX-4500, what esle do I need to say about it? :headphones:

Take care,

Rob Allison

[29 Prospector]

This thread has been very interesting to follow. As you all know I'm a very new novice to Minelabs. I use an Extreme. I think we all missed the main question asked here. I think that all he was asking for was some help in finding the ball park for those coils. I believe once in the ball park he can figure out how to make adjustments. Thanks to Flak, Denny and Micro-Nugget who have helped me find the ball park. Now its a matter of putting the time on the machine, but for now that must wait till October or later. There is no doubt that the 4000 and 4500 are top of the line, but for me they are so far out of my reach that I don't even consider them. Once I get the Extreme down and find enough gold with it, also my Gold Bug and drywashing I can buy a 4000 or 4500. Until than, I'll make do. :twocents: :twocents:

Oh by the way Rob, congrats.

OL'29er