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  2. Yeah, If this is a hoax I'm not sure the boy realized how big a deal it is for a meteorite to impact a human. If it's not a hoax and it really is a meteorite, then this may be the newest known fall. I'm not really investigating this like I normally do with supposed falls because it's not in the USA, but I'm curious as to what the scientist has to say. Obviously there's too much that does not add up. I'm thinking that by Monday, if this is a hoax, the boy will cave under the worldwide press and come clean with the truth. If this is a real fall, this ain't going away anytime soon, and there will be many scientists and meteorite hunters flocking to this area. Someone need to check local news reports around that time to see if there were other reports of a fireball, sonic booms or big bangs, smoke in the air etc... The "burn" on the kids hand looks eerily like a cigarette burn, and the streak below the main circular burn area could have happened if the boy jerked his hand away from the hot cigarette. Look at the photo. The kid could have been playing with friend's and doing a sissy test. We all know what sissy tests are right. If not, I'll elaborate. Usually a sissy test is any pain inflicting action done by one person on another. In the cigarette test two kids would stand side by side and hold the lit cigarette between their arms. Another version is to hold a lit cigarette on the back of the hand or another sensitive area. If the person removes his hand from the heat, he's considered a sissy. Yeah I know... Barbaric right? ;) Come'on you know you've done it! Here's a look at the scar. You judge for yourself... Anyway, the burn on this kids hand looks eerily like a sissy test burn... Maybe the kid came up with the meteorite story to cover his ass so he wouldn't get in trouble at home. Who knows... It's all suspicious... Regards, Eric
  3. Yup! I've received many emails on this. There is not explanation yet but a reporter in Norway contacted me not long ago and said he has interviewed the scientist. The journalist said the scientist reports that he was misquoted when referring to the verification of the stone being a meteorite. The reporter also said he was going to investigate further tomorrow. I'm very suspicious of this report, as are many others. Not only has FoxNews picked it up, but Discovery Magazine reported the same thing but in a debunking sort of way. http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastro...by-a-meteorite/ Wired Science also reports: http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/06/...by-a-meteorite/ As does MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31322855/ns/te..._science-space/ The Sun UK: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/...ite-strike.html And many more large papers... Haven't seen it on CNN yet... Yahoo News of course has it: http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20090612/sc_...Sidnbq5bKADW7oF Space.com: http://www.space.com/news/090612-boy-hit-by-meteorite.html The world is running with this, and it's too late to take it back if this turns out to be a hoax. I'm hopeful but extremely skeptical on this one. Regards, Eric P.S. Perhaps Bill or another moderator should move this post to the Meteorite Forum... ;) Yes?
  4. Earl, I agree with most of what you said... OK here is why I don't believe this story: 1. A meteorite that small would not survive the sudden slow down and ablation in the upper atmosphere. RESPONSE: If it were that small upon initial atmospheric entry then you are correct. However being ablated to that size during entry is entirely possible. ]2. Even if it did survive ablation and the sudden slowing from cosmic velosity to free fall. It would not create a small "crater". CORRECT Of course! A stone of that size would reach terminal velocity and certainly not create a crater (impact pit) in the ground, much less in a hard asphalt road!. 3. If there was a so called white light that is also proof that it is too small to survive. RESPONSE: Not necessarily... You are assuming the light that was supposedly seen was coming from the small meteoroid during flight. If there was a light produced, it may have been produced by the main mass during terminal burst or before that during entry incandescence. The stone he has "could be" only a small piece of a larger fall. I doubt it, but it is possible. 4. Most meteorites blow up in the upper atmosphere where the white light trail starts. This is usually above 100,000 feet. The free fall from this altitude would take 5 to 10 minutes or longer. It would be possible if it were a large meteorite for the light to occur and a small piece to fall to earth, but it would take a while for it to fall to the surface. Small crater? not possible unless it landed in some very light, loose and deep dirt. Be like dropping an iron bearing from 90 feet. RESPONSE: I agree with most of what you said... However... "...Most meteorites blow up in the upper atmosphere where the white light trail starts..." RESPONSE: It's still a meteoroid when falling through the atmosphere. They usually burn up, not blow up, and you're right it happens HIGH in the atmosphere. The meteoroids that "blow up" or reach a terminal burst point are usually much lower in the atmosphere. The Sikhote Alin iron meteorite is a perfect example. If I remember correctly it exploded/fragmented around 3 miles high or approximately 15840 ft. Of course this was a very large fall so comparison to this supposed fall may be a bit unfair. More recently we have solid data that shows the terminal burst point of a very recent and famous meteorite fall was less than 20K ft. "...This is usually above 100,000 feet..." RESPONSE: If you mean meteoroid then yes, small pieces do burn up high in the atmosphere. "...The free fall from this altitude would take 5 to 10 minutes or longer..." RESPONSE: A free fall at that altitude while falling at terminal velocity would take 5-10 minutes, probably. Falling at cosmic velocity no. Cosmic velocity is typically around 11km/sec to 26km/sec on average. Sometimes faster.. The meteoroid slows until it reaches terminal velocity and only then free falls to the ground. To free fall from 100,000 ft would take quite a while. What's the typical altitude at which meteoroids break up and/or slow to terminal velocity? It varies from event to event... 5. "...I remain unconvinced. I agree 100%... I remain unconvinced, verification is needed. Regards, Eric
  5. Cool little gizmo there Jason... Had a similar idea a while back but never got around to making it. How heavy is it? I know those "neos" have super magnetic power and can make a chondrite jump as much as 3-4 inches if it's an H. I have loads of NWAs, and a few Franconias and GBs. Even the GBs give a good pull on a large neo mag. It will work... No doubt. The only issue I see is documenting the actual insitu GPS position of the meteorite when found because unless you are checking it every 2 or three swings you may not know when a small meteorite jumps up on the mag and could walk some distance before realizing it. Imagine trying to retrace your steps if there's 3 or 4 meteorites on your mags. Especially if it's covered in magnetic black sand, there won't be that tell-tale "click" when the meteorite hits the mag. All in all it's a cool little tool. Nininger used a large magnetic rake to find thousands of iron meteorites at the Odessa and Meteor Craters, I don't see why a modified version in the shape of a detector wouldn't work on chondrites. In fact I'll probably make one and play with it a bit just to see what it can do. Now if we can just make something to find those elusive lunars and martians... Great job Jay! Eric
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