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  1. I was in the midst of typing up a long response based on my forty years as a White's dealer and thirty years as a Fisher dealer and then I figured, why bother? It seems argumentative and you probably don't care anyway. Suffice it to say my perspective differs from yours on that subject. I am glad your White's coils have been doing so well for you and sorry the Fisher coils have not.

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  2. All the brands suffer coil failures, White's included. I have seen plenty from all of them. The ones that are scary are the marginal ones I would notice but a newbie would miss. I always wonder how many detectors out there have sub-performing coils. I suspect it accounts for some of the discrepancies you see in internet posts about performance. Not just ground mineralization differences between location A and location B but one operator having a good coil and the other a poor coil.

  3. Steve: Why would you take the 5000 over the ATX? Or why do you see it as not a direct competitor to the 5000? Just more comfortable with it at this time, or do you see specific performance issues where it lags behind the 5000? Depth, sensitivity, lack of adjustment to changing conditions, battery life, durability, reliability, etc? Sounds like it's superior in the EMI cancellation dept so just wondering where it's lagging at this stage?

    I realize people are against detector comparisons, but without some sort of relation between them all we would have no basis on chosing between them so it's kinda necessary to understand these things I think.

    I think a Minelab GPX 5000 will find smaller gold than a Garrett ATX. I think a Minelab GPX 5000 will find large nuggets deeper than a Garrett ATX. I think a Minelab GPX 5000 will handle more extreme ground and worse hot rocks than a Garrett ATX. The Minelab GPX 5000 has a longer battery life and less weight on the arm. It has approximately 50 times more accessory coils available than the ATX.

    You actually do get something for nearly three times as much money. The only way they compete is in value for dollars. If the ATX outperformed the GPX in head to head sheer performance people would be ditching the GPX 5000 for the much less expensive ATX.

    Don't hold your breath!

    The machine the ATX more directly competes with is the Whites TDI. I have a TDI and I would say the ATX is superior in most every way except it A. weighs 1.6 lbs more than a TDI (forgiven somewhat for being waterproof) and B. Is about $400 more than a TDI.

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  4. Ha, ah, fair enough question. I have said it over and over on this forum and others - the ATX is not a GPX 5000. If a person has one and knows how to use it then great. I never expected the ATX to supplant the GPX and still do not. That said I will be using it prospecting in the immediate future just to learn more about it so I can answer that question in a more sensible fashion. Right now I would use the ATX instead of my GPX a. pouring rain b. wading in water or around water. and c. when I want to have the battery and speaker in the unit itself, like maybe in thick brush. I can see how the ATX collapsed short would be good for those crawling around on my hands and knees situations.

    Let's put a sharper point on it. I am going to fly to Australia and spend a ton of money getting into a very remote location for a month. Big potential, very expensive, once in a lifetime shot. I get to take one detector. What do I take? The GPX 5000 of course!

    I am glad I do not have to make the choice myself but where it gets interesting is a new buyer with $2500 to spend. The real question is does that person buy a used Minelab or a new ATX? I think a huge number of people have no real interest in used. They want brand new full warranty. What about them?

    I think all prospectors benefit from competition and no matter what I applaud any company that brings in performance at lower prices. Most electronics gets better and cheaper over time. There has been a reverse trend in PI prospecting detectors for some time in prices going sky-high for better technology. Now maybe that benefits some of us by keeping that very same technology out of the hands of those who can't afford it, but me, I am voting for more, better, and less expensive detectors.

  5. What is wrong with this video???


    What do you see wrong with it Terry?

    I am a rarity I guess in that I put no store at all in comparative detector videos. They almost never really mean anything to me the way they are done. I like to watch them to hear what a detector sounds like but that is about it. From what I can tell though people do seem to like them.

    Just me I guess. I can't stand any of the Gold Rush shows or detecting shows either.

  6. Do you need a waterproof PI Chris?

    I like waterproof for what it is but what I really am waiting for now is a featherweight PI. The world has enough heavy PI prospecting machines. Right now the TDI SL is the only one that feels good on my arm, but I think we can all agree it needs a little more horsepower.

  7. The Delta 4000 is a VLF and the ATX is pulse induction. Apples and oranges. Detectors like the Minelab PI detectors, the Infinium and ATX give either a low/high dual tone or a high/low dual tone on a target. The tones are an accident if the PI ground balancing system and not specifically designed as a target id system. But the tones do correspond to certain target groups. You can learn more about PI tones at http://www.detectorprospector.com/steves-mining-journal/coin-detecting-garrett-infinium-metal-detector.htm


  8. That's not surprising at all. You would be amazed how little the people who work at the manufacturers know about their own products. Very few of them are actually detectorists.

    Main problem with the Recon is it is non-motion only requiring constant manual retuning to maintain a stable threshold. OK for hunting a very small area, but much of nugget detecting is all about covering lots of ground trying to get over a nugget. The Recon would be totally impractical for any such use.

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  9. I am going to get a Garrett ATX sooner or later and am headed down to Arizona. Where are some of the places with mineralization that gives VLF detectors fits? Either intense ground or hot rocks or both? The gold does not need to be good as mainly I just want to see how the ATX runs in bad ground.

    I have heard of some bad ground up around the Columbia River also and other locations so it need not be just Arizona. Any suggestions appreciated, thanks in advance.

  10. Hi Jim,

    You are maybe thinking MXT? Gain on GMT goes from 1-10 there are no "plus" settings.

    I run manual ground balance and hit "Grab" button as needed. Gain at 10 most of the time unless ground or hot rocks real bad, then may back off a bit. I run audio boost off unless ground real quiet. SAT is usually at preset of 3 unless ground extremely bad but frankly at that point I switch to my GPX.

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