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  1. Ah.... we get to the root of the matter. No Mike, I am not your representative at Minelab. I am not responsible for reporting your problems for you. As far as what I communicate or do not, it is none of your business. Your passive/aggressive commentary had me wondering and now I know it has been aimed at me personally. I am not sure what your problem is, but I take it you have a dim view of me. Good enough. I won't trouble you further.

  2. 15 hours ago, Mike C... said:

    Yes Tom my thoughts exactly -without saying any names its very obvious who they are they get all pissy when  anything negative is said about it-Hmmmmm-in the companies back pocket you bet  :grr01: and there are 3 things that I deffinatly  dont like but can be worked around :arrowheadsmiley: theres more good than bad points about the GM 1000-so for now until I get more hours on it I'll keep it to myself-Thanks-Mike C...:200:

    So if I get this right you guys prefer to get no more early information from people who have an inside track on such things? Just wait for regular purchasers to report? I have made the suggestion to at least one company that tester gag orders simply not get lifted in the future.

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  3. The ATX is one of my core "must have" units. These days I use my GPZ 7000 almost exclusively. However, the ATX has one of the best ground balancing circuits available and it will run smooth in hot rocks (basalt cobbles in particular) that will challenge even a GPX let alone a GPZ. It will also fully balance to salt so perfect for alkali flats. So the ATX serves as my backup for my GPZ for oddball situations plus "just in case". It is also my number one beach hunting detector. I even coin hunt with it now and then when the mood strikes me. Just a great all around PI for me at least. It is a very good nugget machine, I just wish a lighter weight dry land version was available at lower cost. The coil is a bit sensitive to hard knocks so the main secret to using it while prospecting is careful coil control.

    Here are some of my ATX finds. The large nugget in the center photo is 0.85 ounce.


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  4. Hi Jim, sorry so long to reply but I have been (you guessed it) out prospecting. I am all surveyed out but you are right I am sure about desert gold and how most of it is near surface. People keep puzzling over why newer machines are not finding more big nuggets down deeper and the sad truth is in many cases they just are not there.

    Best wishes to you and your extended family!

  5. $3k will get you a brand new GPX 4500 with an 11" DD coil and 15" mono coil, three year warranty, and $300 cash left in your pocket. $2699 now.

    Or a GPX 4800 with an 11" DD coil plus a Eureka Gold and $350 cash in your pocket. Both with three year warranties and all for $2649.

    Sorry to say a used GPX 5000 just is not worth now what it was a couple months ago.

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  6. It is by no way a comprehensive survey so no doubt you should avoid drawing too many conclusions regarding machines with only a few responses. And as you note some people may be only finding a couple dinks, others pounds. I think the obvious conclusion is the serious guys are not shy about investing in serious horsepower in the form of top end detectors and usually more than one.

    Lets face it. If all you expect to do is get out and detect a few times a year and find a few nuggets, investing over $10K in detectors makes no sense. For people that measure their gold in pounds it is just the opposite. Cutting corners on equipment can be costly.

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  7. A week ago I started an informal survey on seven US metal detecting oriented prospecting forums including this one.

    The survey was not meant to prove anything per se. I was basically just curious to see what the detectors were that were employed to actually find gold nuggets in the last year.

    The survey has many shortcomings. It only polls people who were on the US forums in the last week who cared to respond. The forums have tended as a whole to be Minelab oriented and so it is not surprising results might skew in that direction. Still, I got a large number of responses and so some conclusions can be drawn.

    I eliminated duplicate and joke responses. I eliminated a couple borrowed units. It was winnowed down to just detectors that found gold for their owners in the last year. Everything else was pretty straight forward. The only thing of note is I put a couple Gold Bug SE responses under the Gold Bug Pro because they are basically the same detector. The SE was just a precursor model. Everything was compiled on a spreadsheet and totaled.

    114 people responded as having used 220 detectors to find gold nuggets. That is an average of a couple detectors per person but the reality is a lot of people owned three detectors, and then quite a few just one detector. In general you could say many nugget hunters own a couple PI detectors (or a PI and a GPZ) plus a good VLF detector. If you really want to generalize things your could say people own a couple Minelab PI type detectors and a Fisher VLF. The Gold Bug 2 and the Gold Bug Pro were the runaway favorites in the VLF category.

    Tesoro is conspicuous in their absence. Only one Lobo ST listed. I was a bit surprised to see not one Garrett AT Gold listed. Except for a few ATX units Garrett is pretty much a no-show. White's does a little bit better but still only just over a dozen units out of 220. The TDI PI models are the most popular alternative to the Minelabs with 8 listed.

    As I noted Fisher totally dominates the VLF detectors with the Gold Bug 2 and Gold Bug Pro. And I was surprised at the very large numbers for both the SDC2300 and GPZ7000. The GPZ in particular due to it being very expensive and out for only the last 6 months. The adoption rate is phenomenal in my opinion.

    Here are two sets of results. The first is simplified for easy digestion. I have lumped similar models together and not listed onesies and twosies. The second list is the full per model breakdown. Make of it what you will, and thank you for participating!

    Simplified Results:

    51 GPX5000/4500/4000

    33 GPZ7000

    33 SDC2300

    32 Gold Bug 2

    15 Gold Bug Pro

    13 GP3500/3000/GPExtreme

    8 White's TDI/DIPro/TDISL/SPP

    5 White's GMT/GM3/VSAT

    5 Nokta FORS Gold

    4 Makro Racer

    4 X-Terra 705

    3 Garrett ATX

    3 XP DEUS

    Full Results:

    33 GPZ7000

    33 SDC 2300

    32 Gold Bug 2

    31 GPX5000

    15 Gold Bug Pro

    11 GPX4500

    9 GPX4000

    6 GP3000

    5 GPExtreme

    5 FORS Gold

    4 Makro Racer

    4 X-Terra 705

    3 Garrett ATX

    3 White's GMT

    3 White's TDI

    3 TDI Pro

    3 XP DEUS

    2 GP3500

    2 Fisher F19

    2 CTX3030

    1 TDI SL

    1 White's SPP

    1 Troy X5

    1 XT17000

    1 SD2200V2

    1 SD2100V2

    1 Tesoro Lobo ST

    1 White's GM3

    1 White's V/SAT

    1 Minelab F1A4

    1 Garrett Scorpion

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  8. This is an informal survey, just out of curiosity. For those of you who have been out prospecting in the last year (back to Sept 2014) and actually have found gold nuggets, what detector or detectors did you find the gold with? The poll is not mant to prove anything. I am just wondering what detectors are most commonly in use now for finding gold nuggets by those who are actually finding the gold.

    I am posting this on the most of the active US forums so please do not post your answer in more than one place. In a week I will compile all the answers from all the forums and post the results back to each one. Thanks in advance for you participation.

    I own a number of units but so far in the last year my gold was found with the Minelab GPZ 7000, SDC 2300, and a few nuggets in trashy areas with the Makro Racer.

  9. Glad to hear the GPZ is working for you Bill. I find gold with mine almost every time I turn it on. Great detector and having used it myself early on one I knew would prove itself with time.

    Steve Herschbach


    Fisher F75 & Gold Bug 2 - Garrett ATX - Makro Racer - Minelab CTX 3030 & GPZ 7000 - Nokta CoRe - White's V3i

  10. This is the final chapter in a long running tale with photos posted elsewhere - Steve's 2013 Alaska Gold Adventure but I wanted to make sure you guys saw this.

    From July 22 to July 28 six days of metal detecting had netted me only three gold nuggets. That is a lot of detecting and digging for just three happy moments! I was getting burned out plus missing my wife and new home. My wife had also let me know one of my dogs was not doing well. It all just added up to time to go home. Besides, I had about 5.5 ounces of gold, not bad at all and better than I had hoped for. Good weather, good gold, good times with friends, it really had been a near perfect trip.

    Therefore on the morning of the 29th of July I wandered up to Chris and Bernie's camp and told them I was done. I was paid up at Chicken Gold Camp through the 31st so my plan was to be packed up and hit the road for Nevada early on August 1st. I had just a few days left so had to decide what to do.

    There is an area on upper Jack Wade known to have produced big gold in the past. Like nuggets weighing pounds, and a 10 ounce nugget had been found there by a dredger the previous season. It was on the ground owned by the miner I had a deal with. I had of course hunted it previously but only found a few small nuggets and lots of little ferrous trash. It was a gorgeous sunny day and the area was relatively open and level so easy hunting. I fired up the Minelab GPX 5000 with Nugget Finder 14" x 9" mono and crossed over the creek to give it a go. I was really relaxed because mentally I was done working and just happy to be out beeping a couple more days. It was really a nice feeling knowing I would soon be heading home.

    I barely had got started when I crested the top of a small ridge of tailings and got a massive boomer signal. Just a huge descending low tone, the type you might get if you buried a huge bolt or some other large ferrous target not too far down. There was a recent dig hole on the target, and I thought "well, let's see what he left in the hole" and gave just a couple big scoops. It was sandy easy digging stuff, and as it slid down the hill I glimpsed gold. I thought "no way!" and as I grabbed it could feel the weight. I stood there looking at 6.5 ounces of solid gold in my hand!


    There is no doubt in my mind about the addictive nature of nugget detecting. It is not easy to do and the gold is not easy to find. There can be lots of false starts and disappointments along the way. It is all that however that makes it so sweet when gold is finally found, when all the hard work and effort is rewarded. I get a thrill out of every nugget I find, no matter how small, because I work hard for every one of them. The really big finds are much rarer yet, so much so that few people ever get to say they found a nugget weighing one ounce or more. The feeling of accomplishment is indescribable because it verges on feeling like a miracle has occurred. Once you get a taste of that feeling you want to feel it again, and it is that quest that powers me and others through days, months, and years of effort. The thrill of finding gold!

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  11. There are of course at least a couple ways of looking at these things. First, if what you have is working for you, then great!

    Unlike you however I have been metal detecting for 40 years. Now, I found a ton of stuff with my first detector, a White's Coinmaster IV, but I sure am glad I did not just stick with it.

    Despite what people may think the technology is getting better. But slowly. You can barely see it from model to model. GP 3000 to GP 3500, not much difference, right? Now sit a Minelab SD2000 next to a GPX 5000. World of difference, but it happened a little at a time. Every once in a rare while though the underlying technology takes a jump. It is not a tweak on the last thing, but something new.

    I figure I spent around 500 hours metal detecting last summer. Not only did I invest a lot of time, but quite a bit of food and gas, etc. into the effort. For me at least I would not want to be investing all that time and money using anything other than what I thought worked best for me. For me, mind you, not anyone else.

    For me, that has pretty much meant jumping on whatever Minelab offers next just as soon as I can lay hands on it. If it turns out to be better, great. If not, I can live with that. So far not once, ever, have I regretted making the upgrade. Say whatever you want about Minelab, they are the ones driving the technology. Everyone else is just playing catch up.

    Anyway, those that want to stay pat with their current hand, more power to you. Me, I have been waiting overtime for this machine. I even had a false start fall of 2012 when I sold my GPX 5000 speculating it was about time for a new machine. Only to have to get a new GPX 5000 spring of 2013. Nope, all I can say is, forgive me my Australian friends - about bloody time!

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  12. Well, I guess I got my wish. Here is a copy of my post from October 17, 2012 at http://www.findmall.com/read.php?27,1795744

    "I have a Minelab GPX 5000 and a Minelab CTX 3030. I am a firm believer at this point that the GPX 5000 has taken PI nugget detecting technology about as far as it can go, with only better ferrous discrimination the only thing to offer me. And I am not holding my breath for that. So where to go from here?

    Pretty obvious I would say. Cram the GPX 5000 into the CTX 3030 package. I see no reason why it can't be done. The only limitation would likely be battery time per charge but if a CTX style battery could get me just a half day operation I am fine with changing batteries at lunch. A GPX 5000 is a single package with built-in speaker and GPS and waterproof to 10 feet would be killer. A new coil set mimicing the CTX set would be great as new waterproof coils would be a must. 8" mono, 11" (or 12") mono and 11" (or 12") DD and 18" mono would be all I would ever need. People are already using the GPX for beach and relic hunting and this would put it over the top. I would be using it for almost any detecting at all except where discrimination is a must, like turf hunting in a park.

    Minelab GPX 5000 MSRP of $6995 (MAP $5795). You want to get another grand out of me Minelab? MSRP $7995? Give me a CTX 5000 or GPX 6000 or GPX 8030, whatever you want to call it and you got it."

  13. Here is a little more I picked up in the last few days at another location. Some extremely hot ground, serpentine bedrock with bright red soil. Looks to be 50% magnetite based on what my magnet dragged up. Worst stuff I have been in with the SDC and it handled it well. It would want to groan if moved too fast as the ground balance and autotune struggled to keep up. Answer - just slow down! I still had no problem running at sensitivity three. Anyway, long story short 11.2 grams or 7.1 pennyweight. Largest nugget about 3 grams.


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