Listen, we all had to start form nothing...I started with a simple pan , sluicing, drywashing, sniping ..and invested in a dredge or 2. Eventually some of us joined a club or two to be around others who enjoyed looking for gold. I know I did all of the above. In time...you get to meet some cool people...some of those will show you how to reduce your learning curve by offering great advice. If you are nice fellow some will actually show you where they found gold !! Bingo !Believe it or not...a phone call, a text, or private message usually won't get you what you want. But if you take the time and network.and allow people to get to know you ..you will be on gold I can guarantee you that 100%. Bill offers group outings...many members here on the forum attend and have a great time, unfortunately for me I can't leave as I have many obligations . But if you are hungry enough to find gold, you would have found the way my friend. Detecting for gold is the most difficult way to find gold and probably not suitable for 90% . Some are diggers....give em a shovel, pick and sluice and they will find gold. Some like many on this forum ..can wander for hours swinging that detector as if they're in a trance...digging trash and more trash and hoping that the next target will be gold, and if its not that day or the next if they keep on swinging that coil they will find it. Unfortunately success builds confidence, you have had no success...so you have no confidence. Here is some free advice..sell all your vlf's and buy a Minelab sdc from Bill...go to areas gold was previous found before and swing that coil and dig all targets. Good luck and may the gold gods shine upon you !