LukeJ

The stench is powerfull.

If you had read the article..... You'd know that Dr. Mikovits was arrested in 2012. Those events had nothing to do with Covid19. Weird things do happen to people in Communist countries. Especially when you try to 'get the word out'. Are you somehow linking the United States with China and Russia? Are the three countries the same? Or do they deserve different levels of scrutiny? Dr. Mikovits is a criminal and most likely has a personal vendetta. Doesn't breaking the law reduce or damage one's credibility? Or is that just for certain laws? I find it weird that some w

So these events didn't happen? A few months after that, Mikovits was arrested in southern California “on an ‘out of county warrant’ from Washoe County, Nevada, for allegedly taking lab notebooks, a computer, and other material from the Whittemore Peterson Institute in Reno, Nevada, after the WPI fired her.” The arrest came in conjunction with a lawsuit from WPI that sought a restraining order to block Mikovits’ destruction of data which they maintained belonged to the institute:

Couldn't the same be said for any high ranking military officer?

Maintain it for your use only? Once you do 'decommission' it, what can they do if you just let nature take it's course?

I think it has a lot to do with making sure there are no unintended effects, beyond actual effectiveness. Just because they are doing human trials, doesn't mean those will be effective. Not to try to put a damper on the excitement. Then there is dosing.... How much is enough? What's the least amount that is 'effective'? What are side effects as the dosage increases? There's just a lot of testing and it takes time to have the immune response or lack thereof, and collect the data. I suppose they could get 'lucky' and just have everything go forward perfectly. It's just

At least a year before something becomes commercially available.

It's a good step in the right direction. It seems they still have some obstacles to overcome. Gary McLean, professor in Molecular Immunology at London Metropolitan University, said: "Because it is not done in people and the antibody is not even found in people as far as we know there are limitations. However it is a nicely done study that could provide a potential biotherapeutic that could be used to treat COVID-19.

Knowing you might be 'immune' would certainly bring peace of mind. Then your parents will be able to 'get back out there' and get this economy rolling.

No word yet on the test. Should be tomorrow. We are still going to self-quarantine for a while no matter what. Our main focus, besides self preservation, is our daughter who was hospitalized 3 times when she was an infant with 'reactive airway disease'. It's like 'low grade' asthma. She doesn't have asthma attacks, more like she over produces phlegm when her air way is irritated. Which is what happens when she gets sick. She's been good for a few years now, but she's still on maintenance inhaler. We didn't know how 'far gone' things were going to get and if she would need to

That's why I asked. And now that I think of it.... Have you tried cutting down on your 'ten cups of coffee per day' to try to help the heartburn? I'm no doc, but I'd bet they have something to do with each other.

You get heartburn Slim?

My mother-in-law makes this bitter melon soup. I didn't care for it much at first. But I've 'acquired' the taste for it now. Often when I'm eating some 'strange' food at her house I wonder about all the unknown benefits from foods whose names don't have an English translation. https://www.vickypham.com/blog/stuffed-bitter-melon-soup

Just a word of 'warning' with regards to taking supplements. Remember that your liver and kidneys have to filter all that stuff out at some point. If you are taking a lot of supplements, make sure you are drinking enough water. None of us drink enough water.

It's been great chatting with you Weaver. I'm going to go outside and work on my suntan. Have a good one !!

.....And that's where we get back to the point that more could have been done sooner. Should have been done sooner. It's almost like it was 'allowed to fester' to create a situation where 'they' would have leverage over 'us'. Who's in charge right now? The most powerful country in the world was 'powerless' to stop this virus from wrecking it's economy. Even if we had stopped it in America, how would the rest of the world be fairing? The global economy would still be hurting.

No more than you would get from eating 'healthy food'. I've been drinking more whiskey than I was before. One theory that was presented 'early on' was the reasoning of why this virus doesn't seem to have the same effect on kids. It was theorized that kids are constantly bombarded with 'germs' at school and their immune response is already 'amped up'. Even though they are 'less susceptible', they can be the main carriers and that's why shutting the schools down was such a good idea.

WITTES: He was writing about a tax dispute between the Pennsylvania General Assembly and the family of the Penns, the proprietary family of the Pennsylvania colony who ruled it from afar. And the legislature was trying to tax the Penn family lands to pay for frontier defense during the French and Indian War. And the Penn family kept instructing the governor to veto. Franklin felt that this was a great affront to the ability of the legislature to govern. And so he actually meant purchase a little temporary safety very literally. The Penn family was trying to give a lump sum of money in exchange

So it's only your sources that are acceptable? Why don't you try to decipher the words in your link and tell us in 'layman's terms' how this quote applies to this situation. Take your time. I've got plenty.

I agree with not being the guinea pig. But someone has to. Any volunteers? My wife just got back from going to get tested. She has had a nagging cough for the last month and a half. Usually it's 'seasonal' and could be allergy related. Our family has been here 'locked down' since March 16th when I got back from Gold Basin (skunked). We have been observing the 'rules' and I have been the one to leave the house to go pick up groceries we ordered online. As far as I can tell there is no way my wife's test could come up positive for Covid19. Unless.... The week before I

So then you're ready to 'step outside', roll the dice and see how they fall? You know, for the sake of the economy. Here's a meme that my wife and I were crackin' up about a few weeks ago. It still makes me laugh. Maybe you'll laugh too? Sorry to those who are sensitive to 'bad words'.

Nature has a way of working things out. Should we 'step out of the way' and let nature take it's course?

All the advantages of a DNA vaccine look good. I was waiting for the disadvantages, and I guess the lack of immune response is still the hurdle they are tripping over. Hopefully they get it worked out soon.

Did you just make that up? Edit: Oh, very clever Weaver. You quoted Ben Franklin. I'm sorry but 'your' quote is out of context. https://www.npr.org/2015/03/02/390245038/ben-franklins-famous-liberty-safety-quote-lost-its-context-in-21st-century