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  1. 17 hours ago, Morlock said:

    Would they be mining for the agate nodules or something else? Given the expense of mechanical repairs, I just can't picture the nodules would be profitable enough to justify using heavy equipment. Could be wrong though. 

    Agate isn’t typically considered a locatable mineral so claims for it are typically denied. Claims for agate can be granted if the agate is unique and highly desirable, but most agate just isn’t.

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  2. 11 hours ago, clay said:

    The ash hills there are private property. It's not a mining claim. All of Section 9 has been private property since it was patented in 1924.

    It looks like a sand and gravel operation. Just a guess but the are probably mining cinders and/or boulders for ornamental desert landscaping material.


    Nothing I’ve ever read mentioned the land was patented. This is excellent info to have. Thanks Clay.

     And I’d guess you’re probably right. it’s probably cinders.

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  3. Nearly all of the rockhounding books about California list a place to pick up agate nodules near Newberry Springs, off old Route 66. It’s a place I always wanted to go, but never felt comfortable without a 4 wheel drive. They make it sound so simple in the books — climb the hill, dig in the ash blowouts, and find some nice agate nodules.

    It’s gone back and forth between an active mining claim and public land many times over the years, and it appears as though it is an active claim once again. I’ve heard reports that the gate at the bottom of the hill is closed and locked, and there’s a no trespassing sign mentioning an open pit mine. I looked on my map app on my phone, and sure enough, there is mining equipment at the end of the road.

    I hope no one here was planning a trip out there, but if anyone was, I hope that this will save them a trip. 


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  4. 7 hours ago, Jimale said:

    Mike ,

    you are circumnavigating the issue. The discussion is based on the physical characteristics of meteorites, photo identification, and a constructive debate on the same.

    Why did the debate move to an evidence base, meteorites don't fall from space while classified.

    It's only done after a collector obtains the material from the founder. What a disgrace man! 

    Disgrace? You claim the item pictured is a meteorite. Mike, a very experienced meteorite hunter, says based on what he can see that it is not a meteorite. So, he’s a disgrace for stating  his opinion?

    But see, here’s the thing. You, as the person claiming the item is a meteorite, have the burden of proof. You say it’s a meteorite. Prove it. Go get it classified and make us eat our words. Until then, it’s just a piece of vesicular  basalt.

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  5. 47 minutes ago, PhilanthroPest said:

    Here's another video... Hope this is better...  My pics aren't as good 

    Clearly shows fusion crust...  

    (i don't believe it is a meteorite... but that Nastapoka Arc was certainly created by some cataclysmic event

    Hope to hear back!




    Only meteorites have a fusion crust. You don’t believe it's a meteorite, so you probably shouldn’t say it’s got a fusion crust.

    I very rarely am certain about a stone’s ID just from looking at pics or video, but I’m going to say this is 100% a broken concretion. 

  6. 3 hours ago, PhilanthroPest said:

    I've scratched, hammered meal filed... only the darker rock 'left  a whitish mark  (which is also  a dark green)  Drill bit did noting except scratch darker rock


    Well, if a drill bit or a file doesn’t scratch it then it’s far too hard to be serpentine, though if I were going based on appearance alone that’s exactly why I would say it was. At this point I think it’s most likely to be either glaucophane or zoisite.

  7. 24 minutes ago, CGR said:

    Thanks! I believe thats what it is after looking them up. I am in Arkansas and trying to figure out how it got on my property as it seems from what I read they are pretty much native to Utah? 

    Gonna research it some more and thanks to all that have commented, much appreciated!

    Moqui marble is a name for hematite concretions from a specific location. Hematite concretions are quite common all over the world, and are known to be found in Arkansas. 

    Something else found in Arkansas are spherical pyrite nodules. Over time, pyrite can oxidize into hematite. I suspect that might be what you have here. 

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  8. 6 hours ago, PhilanthroPest said:

    Any  tesitng i can do from home?   Any chance it is nephrite jade?  So MANY thanks for your help


    A hardness  test will give you the most bang for the buck. I wouldn’t bother trying to test the darker areas as those areas appear to be composed of multiple minerals. The lighter areas look like a singular mineral so testing there should get you closer to a correct ID. 

    Here’s a link to a site that will get you in the ballpark with stuff you have at home. Once you’ve tested your stone let us know the results and we’ll be able get you closer to an actual ID. I would also suggest a specific gravity test, but being that your stone doesn’t have a singular composition it’s not going to be accurate. 


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