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  1. You are so right! Fishing and Hunting teaches patience for sure, and technique.  Prospecting is a lot like that. Trying to figure out where to go, what to look for. The "signs" that you learn to read, gradually reduces that feeling of being overwhelmed. I went out nugget hunting with a newby guy not too long ago and after we got to a good spot with geological indicators all over the place he looked around and said, "Gee it's all so random"  We were standing in in the middle of a contact zone with small pieces of gnarly rusty quartz laying on top of a red soil layer 20 feet across, and a few feet away in the side of a wash was a foot wide vertical igneous slab of intrusive rock with triangular shaped rock pieces scattered around the base. I finally spotted the claim marker high up on the side of the ridge so we didn't detect but it was a good place to discuss gold indicators and to stress the importance of being able to read "sign" 

    As a kid,  while out with my Dad deer hunting, he would stress looking for fresh sign; mostly tracks and pellets. He would say, "If the signs are there, the deer are there, so don't just look for a deer, closely observe and study each bush and hiding place for an ear twitch or a slight color pattern that may faintly stand out, and other subtleties which can give away a deer's hiding place. He also insisted, If the signs are there and you are not seeing any, you're missing them. Believe in the fact that they are there, SLOW DOWN AND HUNT"

    Once you start picking up the "signs" you should notice a big boost in confidence. Then it becomes much less overwhelming, and more of a matter of finding the hiding places. :)

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  2. 2 hours ago, brownb56 said:

    Thank you for the info, heard a few second hand stories but you know how that goes. From what I understood at the last meeting they traded that claim away. But are supposed to be getting it back. I've been told if a person wants to find a lot of gold they would be better off going to Nevada or California. But we have a decent amount for the amount of people picking over it. Trying to squeeze in a couple more trips before hunting season kicks off, then the ground freezes up shortly after.

    Well, of course when you are new at the game, "The Grass is always Greener" and at some time or another, most of us have "Left Gold to Find Gold" but eventually learned better. That frozen ground thing however, is a good reason to try other places . . . Nevada for sure, and don't forget Arizona.

    If you are not yet into Geology of the Origination and Deposition of Gold, you might consider learning as much as you can about gold indicators. I found it to be a big confidence builder that helps keep you motivated in your search, and believing in your ability to find gold.  Like in the words of the old folk song from the 60's, " You've got to Prime the Pump, You must have Faith and Believe"  If you keep at it, the learning curve will ultimately cross paths with your persistent efforts and you will see results.

    I have no doubts about it.

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  3. On 9/22/2021 at 6:15 PM, brownb56 said:

    Already picked up on a few things. I'm in southwest Wyoming. Been running around up by South Pass in that gold district. There is a place near there that the description is very similar to Australia. Weathered in place deposits with very little water movement. That's why I was hoping a metal detector would be useful. But I'll definitely give a dry washer a go. Think I have an idea on a couple places to start.

    Took me a few years but that old saying about having two ears and one mouth, so listen twice as much as I speak is finally sinking in.

          Hey Brown, As you may already know, a few of the guys in the WPA club has found some good gold on the club claims, and in the general vicinity.  I was a club member and last up there several months ago for a few days. I was hunting with a guy who found a half oz specie about 4" deep on the top of a 10-15 ft tall pile at a dredge tailing pile in Big Atlantic Gulch. If you have the club claim maps it's the Bridge Buster claim. There's a lot of tailing piles from that point North that look unworked and somewhat difficult to access due to thick brush and beaver ponds, but I'm told that they have been relatively untouched since the time of the war order shut down in 1942. Might be worth checking out. Here's a pic of a nugget I found at 6" in a smaller tailing pile a few years back in Crow's Nest Gulch (GPS Coords: 42.5032901-108.6356649) When I was there more recently, a few tailings piles still hadn't been worked or not raked down at least. You might want to take a look and give it a try. Also attached is a pic of some glacer nuggets taken off of a ranch property East of Crows Nest in a non-mineralized area.

    Mac

     

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  4. I'm surprised that we get to see as many photos of gold as we do, especially pics of larger more valuable nuggets and specimens. The desire for secrecy, and confidentiality to avoid tax liability, among other things, (alimony etc.), cause some people to be extremely cautious about publicity. And rightfully so IMO.  

  5. "Man Walks Among Us"

    Marty Robbins Take On "Land Matters"


    Warm are the winds on the desert, A whirlwind is dancing around, I stop to survey all the beauty that's here
    When a shadow moves out 'cross the ground.
    It's an eagle that circles above me, And he screams to his friends on the hill: "Stay close together, move not a feather
    Man walks among us, be still, be still, Man walks among us, be still"
    Everything hides, but I see them, I've spotted an old mother quail, I look close and see, looking right back at me
    The eyes of a young cottontail. I see a coyote sneaking
    As he crawls through the brush on the hill, And the eagle screams down, "Stay close to the ground, Man walks among us, be still, be still, Man walks among us, be still."
    Twenty feet high in the side of a cactus, I see a hole where the butcher bird stays,If mortals could choose, and if heaven should ask us, Here's where I'd want to spend all of my days.
    Soon will be gone all the desert, Cities will cover each hill
    Today will just be a fond memory, Man walks among us, be still, be still.
    Man walks among us, be . . . still.
     

  6. 11 minutes ago, Mike C... said:

    I tried bedliner in the rattle can years ago and it will just wear off very easy its to soft-You need to buy the good stuff which is 2 part-one part resin one part hardener-it will dry way harder than the one part stuff-Im getting ready to do my whole truck in raptor bedliner-tuff stuff-No more AZ pin stripping on my truck :brows: :200:

    Dog gone it Mike,  You'll be taking all the prestige out of that scratchy, AZ Pin Striping look! :)

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  7. I may be sticking my neck out a little but I don't look at the GM 1000 as an entry level detector although I know that many folks have started out that way. I don't own one and haven't used one, but I have hunted with several guys that used them. They are gold getters without a doubt. But, I have only seen them used in conjunction with a PI or as a choice of alternative detectors to nugget hunt with, not as a solitary unit. It is often said that a single detector is a tool in the tool box that fills a niche for a specific purpose and at certain locations, not all. I have found that to be pretty much the case. IMO, the problem(s) that you most likely will run into in AZ while detecting for gold will be dealing with mineralization (hot ground), hot rocks, and, as you mentioned, perhaps, ground balance. You might consider a good used PI which, in general, could go a long way in solving these issues for you. Until I started using the Equinox, I found more old coins and relics by far with a PI, since that what I usually was hunting gold with.

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  8. 13 hours ago, Dakota Slim said:

    I'd say that all the quartz & schist outcroppings have been beeped repeatedly with every machine you can imagine. You have to think outside the box.
    Montana always said that gold doesn't go far in the desert and that is especially true in much of the NV outback. BUT, nobody knows what that desert looked like a million years ago. The area that looks flat today might not have been flat eons ago when the gold formed. I have no doubt that there are many very rich pockets out there that have never seen a detector.  

    :shhhhh:  There's got to be.  And in places you might least expect . . . (Jungo's still a comparative sleeper I believe)  I remember Dick Bailey telling me several times that most big gold hunters in the Eugene's concentrated on detecting too high on the slope. His find was way lower down than I would have thought. AZ Nugget Bob said that T-Bone's nugget was 10 feet off the road! (which kind of matches Bud Young's version, that they were detecting a couple of hundred yards from their truck when it started to sprinkle rain. T-Bone was jogging along back to the vehicle while swinging his coil when he got a booming hit that he expected to be a coke can or something similar) The nugget was flat and shallow, only a few inches down. Smokey Baird said he found a 6 oz nugget right on top of the ground with just a thin layer of dust covering it! He found it in the sagebrush flats by the side of a jeep trail when he stopped to take a leak! 

    I am definitely convinced that, if there is life on other planets with all that random vastness and open space, surely there still has to be a few lunkers and nugget patches waiting to be discovered in the vastness of Pershing and Humboldt counties. :shhhhh:

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  9. 7 hours ago, Dakota Slim said:

    I always said just throw a dart at the map, turn on your beeper and keep it on the ground. 
    I know that some people have become protective of their active claims and you have to respect that but the locals have gone wherever they want whenever they want for a long time. 
    I'm not sure of the current status but the land west of Sawtooth all the way to the Hycroft Mine (Sulfur Mining District) was blanket claimed by Allied and they didn't care if anyone was out there beeping unless it was where they were actively working. 

    Here's a little eye candy...

     

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    Outstanding Slim! I just knew we would draw you in eventually . . . :) 

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  10. 8 minutes ago, Nugget Shooter said:

    Ahhhhh the good old days and used to hang out at the gold nugget cafe in Wickenburg so many years back and met T Bone and Tony Pancake along with Jim Straight. Terry showed me some good areas in the Kirkland area. I still hunt some of those patches with claim owners permission.

    wS a sad day when we lost George when his loader crushed him back there

     Very sad and tragic event the way it played out. 

    I was in JW's store one day when Bud Young came in with a film canister of nuggets he had just found, and after being introduced, Bud asked me if I wanted to go out detecting the next day. I had just bought an SD 2200d from JW and we all agreed to go together. Bud then invited me outside to to take a look at his new truck. It was a white Dodge with a green ATV in the back. He motioned for me to open the glove box and hand him the mason quart jar that was about 3/4 full of good sized nuggets which he proceeded to dump his canister gold into. We talked a few minutes and when I went back inside, JW told me he was surprised that Bud was going detecting since he had been spooked about what had happened to George, then T-Bone who was killed at Pronto crossing, and another member of the group who had been killed in a vehicle accident. Three out of five killed in a short time. He said Bud hadn't gone out hardly at all in over 2 years and another friend of theirs (I won't mention the name), hadn't left his ranch either, for the same reason. 

    Many, if not most of the amazing Gold stories, where pounds of nuggets were picked up sometimes in minutes, never got written down, or recorded, and the locations mostly lost except to the those who were around to be a part of them. T-Bone's legacy continues to inspire though, mainly due to people like Jim Straight and web sites like this.

      

     

     

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  11. 2 hours ago, Morlock said:

    Back in the 90's a friend of mine found a 17 ouncer and a 23 ouncer with a detector at Blue Mountain. I was with two other people that excavated one of the main washes coming off that mountain. But we never reached bedrock so we don't know if there was anything in the wash or not. It was a worthwhile gamble but didn't pay off in the end..at least not for us.

    Boy Steve, I can't help but getting fired up everytime these stories come back around again. I always found it interesting that the location where those monster nuggets were found, varied, depending on who you talked to. That's only natural I suppose, given the reluctance to pinpoint where something that valuable came from.  The first story I heard was an "eyewitness" account that placed T-Bone's big find near Blue Mt., which I believe to be credible.

     Bud Young, who lived in Meyer told me he was hunting with a group of guys, including Terry near Blue Mt., when the find was made. The story was interesting, funny and instructive.  But there are a few other accounts from reputable people that refer to, "The Eugene's" as the location. Again, I think that's understandable, not only due to secrecy, but between those two areas, as you know, is Jungo Rd., and depending on which side of the road you are on, there might be a slightly different reference point, IMO. 

    I thought I would post some photographs of big nuggets from that area for anyone that hadn't already seen them. The first photo is a 23 oz nugget found by Richard (2lb Dick), Bailey, in 1999 The second photo is the famous 27 oz nugget found by Terry Bone (T-Bone) in 1996, I believe.

    I nugget hunted with Dick Bailey at the location where his nugget was found at the North end of the Eugene's and his dig hole (or someone's), was still visible. He gave me the photo of the nugget, which he sold for $15,000.00 and bought a mobile home which he was living in the last time I saw him, there in Imlay. He found quite a few other nice nuggets in that same area. I had pizza and beer with him at a friends house in Imlay the day before he hit the big one. I was supposed to have gone out with him the next day but I took off for Wyoming since it was starting to get hot in NV. I found gold in WY, but nothing like that. 

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  12. TAPS

    To Honor the 12 Marines, and Navy Corpsman KIA while serving in Afghanistan August 26, 2021, "So Others Might Live" TAPS is a Bugle call used to signal, "Lights Out" 

    At a traditional military funeral it is the last sound heard by family members when a service member is laid to rest.  This version is performed in the field, " With Echo"

    LYRICS:
    Day is Done, Gone the Sun,
    From the Lakes, from the Hills, from the Sky.
    All is Well, Safely Rest, God is Nigh.


     

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  13. 48 minutes ago, nugget108 said:

    Great stories of Northern Nevada Max, keep them coming!! Pegleg John was the crystal hunters name. My little brother and i met him for the first time around 1998 or so. Could be off a year or two. But man did he have the crystal collection! It took several hours for him to show us his collection and he was proud of it. We would stop by and visit him every time we went to Majuba after that. Very nice feller. Then we met another ol feller up at Willow Creek named Ken. Never got his last name unfortunately. My brother and i camped on the other side of the creek from him while waiting for my dad to come up the next morning. We were just sleeping in the back of the truck when the rain and lightning came in super bad. Ken waved us over to hang out in his trailer until it stopped. While in there he showed us pounds and pounds of nuggets!! He has been digging up above the old Thacker ranch for years and years and kept all of his gold in cigar tubes. I was still a senior  in high school and just starting out prospecting. Seeing all of those nuggets was amazing!! Then we moved on to his mineral collection that he had collected over the years. Out came the blacklight to check them all out haha. It was so cool. The next day, he took my brother my dad and i up and showed us where to dig up there. We all dug some amazing gold that day. Those were the days for sure. I truly miss some of the old timers that roamed the Nevada desert back then. It would be amazing to have those times back again.

    Very Cool Dan! Looks like you've been sandbagging us on the story telling! :)

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  14. Hey Max,

    Last I heard, maybe 3 years ago, NV Chris was still up in the Rye Patch area and had been working at First Gold's relief canyon mine. He may be living in the Lovelock area. Reno Chris (Chris Ralph,) Bill's compadre, would likely know where he is these days if anybody does, since they used to connect on the forums and by telephone.

     Just FYI, Hard to say how old the information is. Good luck.

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  15. 12 minutes ago, pairadiceau said:

    Nice work Bill,

    I rekon BMc is just yankin your chain.  Keep up the great work and yes this is still a wonderful forum.  Thank yu for providing this place.

    Jeff

     Actually Jeff, I wasn't trying to yank Bill's chain at all, nor would I ever presume to do so. I was commenting on the GB2 in a sarcastic and facetious manner, in response to what I considered to be bombastic comments and offensive, unjust, and insulting insinuations, (IM0), that were being hurled at Bill. If anyone got the impression that I was attacking Minelab or Bill's presentation, I assure you that was not the case. We communicated on the subject and both got a chuckle out of it.

    Criticizing Minelab is one thing. But if someone obviously doesn't know what they are talking about, has never used the GPX 6000, and appears to have an axe to grind on top of the personal disrespect that was shown, I may have a bit of a hard time sitting still for it without saying something. Personally, I thought the video was informative and thought provoking. It's the first one I've seen that showed both an increase in depth of detection and a significant increase in the size of the gold. I believe that this type of information is what a lot of people are looking for. Myself included. 

     

     

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  16. 1 hour ago, Nugget Shooter said:

     

    That looks pretty impressive for a Minelab, but it's been said that any 'ol Radio Shack detector or even a GB2 with a 9 Volt battery, could go deeper and give you back 8 Volts change! :rolleyes:

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