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Gentlemen, . . . Really? Methinks Thou Do Protest Too Much! I merely tried to present the author's material and to render my opinon that his descriptions and correlations made sense to me, based on the information in his writings, and on my observation of the rock formations themselves. That's all. Any statements I made were supported by the book. I never said it was gospel and I wasn't trying to convince anyone of an exclusive viewpoint or disuade opposing opinions. My intention was to simply point out that figures similar to the ones in Kenworthy's book do exist and where they were loca

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I'm pretty sure that most of the Soap Creek area of Black Canyon City is under claim by now, but if anyone happens to be in that area and takes the jeep trail North after ascending the access road up the hill (I haven't been there in about 15 years), the " Spanish mine trail monuments" should be visible after passing Soap Creek. The "Indian Heads" are on the left and the "Poodles" are beyond the commercial? fenced off mining area straight ahead. The area may be accessible by jeep trails from the North as well. In '90's, during my first trip, the "Poodle" area had an open mine audit and a very

Fair Dinkum Terry. I base my convictions mainly on what I considered his being able to connect the dots in his book on mine monuments and trail markers. His photographs and narratives of rock formations in various shapes, sizes, and purposes, along with his descriptive methods as to how the Spanish positioned the figures, the eye catchers they used, the "open hole" and mortared foundation and support systems they used to stabilize the rock formations, (and to confirm that the structures were man made and not natural features), all made sense to me. The objects in his book are real. Someone mad

I believe the feedback and discussion has been interesting and stimulating. The topic is controversial, just as the subject of Spanish signs and symbols, lost mines etc has always been, I suppose: Much debated with diverse opinions and interpretations. Many books written on the subject, lots of conflicting viewpoints, even by "experts" in the field. On the subject of civil engineering, I expect there is more than a dozen reasons that the great pyramids of Egypt should not exist too, but I can't imagine the modification of rock formations like those in question would present that much of an i

LipCa: The Kenworthy book is available on line, but I would expect that it may also be found in some local libraries. I plan to bring my copy to the outing in Nov. if anyone happens to be interested in taking a look at it.

LipCa, Now you've gone and done it! Stop while you still can. They might think the craziness is catching. Yep, looks like a pack mule monument all right. Have you researched Kenworthy's material at all? I would hope before the skeptics write us off as total wacko's, that they would review a copy of Kenworthy's book and at least examine the basis for our reasoning.

I get the drift, and the point would be well taken if it were about Indian slave labor. History doesn't appear to have restricted the Spanish to an approach quite that simplistic. They did have highly skilled tradesmen, including carpenters, masons and the like and it was the King who was the authority behind the practices and procedures involving the issue of trail markers, mine monuments and so on. I agree that the Indios would most likely have been relegated to the mines, climbing chicken ladders down into the pozos etc. But there were also mexican miners and laborers, well diggers, cooks,

Hey ArticDave, Just F.Y.I if it might be a little easier for you . . . when I get in a hurry to store up some more long green, like say toward the end of the season before it starts turning red on us, you might try rinsing off a few pods, then lay them flat in a gal plastic bag and nuke them for a couple of minutes of so and then turn the bag over and repeat. Another way is to moisten paper towels and layer the pods between them, then microwave as above. That way your bag won't wilt on you . . . Once they blanch, you can bag and freeze them, and they turn out very good. Nothing beats flame r

Perceptions and opinions may vary (for differing reasons), of course. That's what makes a horse race, or so they tell me. My observation of the rock structures in the field, even though they are crumbling somewhat, and the resemblance of the figures to those as described by Kenworthy, along with his voluminous pages of research results, leads me to a similar conclusion as he has postulated. My view is that these rock structures I observed were worked by hand, and up close you can see tool marks, cuts, grooves and striations in the stone similar by example, as what is most noticeable when exa

Has anyone noticed these Spanish Mine Monuments, (in the heart of gold country), in the Bradshaw Mts? I first ran across these huge stone figures in the 1990's while out nugget hunting, and went back a few years later to take some photographs. I was 4-wheeling along a jeep trail, crossing one creek and hill after another, and as I topped a rise and started down toward the next creek, the Indian Head Monument (my profile photo), jumped out at me. It looked amazingly real and detailed and was near the trail so you couldn't miss it. I got out and examined it close up to confirm that it had been

According to documented news accounts, (and treasure story lore), the Butterfield Stage Station, located several miles N/W of Stein's Ghost town on I-10, was the site of numerous attack(s) by Apaches, as were the stagecoaches themselves, as they passed through "Doubtful Canyon" shown in the distance (photo attached), at the base of the Peloncillo Mts. near the AZ/NM border. The Lordsburg, NM "Western Liberal" newspaper referenced a $200,000 missing army payroll that had been destined for Fort San Simon, a few miles to the West of the stage stop. I was able to access the private property in the

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