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  1. ECONOMIC GEOLOGY OF THE SIERRA ESTRELLA, MARICOPA AND PINAL COUNTIES, ARIZONA OPEN-FILE REPORT 93-12 September, 1993 Gold and Silver Pegmatites of the Sierra Estrella contain an average of 15 to 40 parts per billion (Ppb) gold with one pegmatite reportedly containing up to 23 ppm gold and 13.5 ppm silver (Korzeb, 1988). While most of the pegmatites are not presently an economically feasible source of gold or silver, they do provide a possible source for gold placer deposits. Since 1980 there have been over 75 placer claims located in the alluvium on the western side of the Sierra Estrella. These claims have not been worked beyond a few exploration trenches (as of 1991). Fool's Gold and Real Gold - How to tell the difference - Geology.com Gold Mineral Properties geology.com › minerals › gold Tests for Gold: How to Test a Rock for Gold - Sciencing sciencing.com › Science › Geology › Minerals & Rocks A small magnet, piece of glass and a bit of unglazed tile can help you identify real gold in a flash. ‎How to Identify Raw Gold · ‎Placer-Deposits-Arizona-Maureen-Johnson Googleology: Many more leads out there ...
  2. Do you live in a gold field or in an area where gold has been found before?
  3. You might consider a walking cast, which should help take the pressure off your ankle. Those type of injuries can take a long time to heal, and are prone to re-injury. I had a torn tendon and ligaments in my left ankle which took two years before it stabilized and still bothers me decades later. Hope the therapy does it for you.
  4. Max, Looks like one I saw out around Atlantic City, East of the Cemetery last summer when I was up there. Still a few old cabin remains hidden in the trees. Very wet winter last year and heavy runoff in all the creeks. Flat tails had a lot of them damned up and most of the good tailing piles were under water.
  5. Wow Max, I just reviewed that story yesterday while researching Forrest Fenn. That one rates right up there with Mel Fisher's finds and the Great Britain Hordes. Probably exceeds both in monetary value even!
  6. Won't it make the Elk meat too blood shot?
  7. Out of the frying pan into the fire . . .
  8. Hi Tom, Thanks for the tip! Actually, I did look at that magnetic sweeper and a couple of others before I found the picnic site and since I already had the basic component parts on hand, decided to cobble one together myself. I used an industrial strength bar magnet that does a good job of sucking up bottle caps, nails, rusty metal debris etc. It doesn't have a release mechanism other than manually scraping stuff off, but that's not hard to do and it's narrow enough to get into tight spots between rocks.
  9. Aug 18, 2009 "STEALING THE PAST: The haul included everything from arrowheads to pots and pendants. There were woven sandals and ceramic figures. There was even a rare turkey-feather blanket and a female loin cloth. All told, undercover investigators purchased 256 artifacts worth more than $335,000. All were illegal. Using an undercover source, agents from the FBI and the US Bureau of Land Management had spent since November 2006 infiltrating a tight-knit community of looters in the Four Corners area who dig up graves and pillage archaeological sites on public lands, then sell the items they find to dealers and collectors. But it wasn't until early June of this year that agents announced their take: Thus far, a total of 24 people have been indicted, 23 arrested and 12 homes searched—including four in Santa Fe. On June 12, federal agents searched the homes of collectors Forrest Fenn, Thomas Cavaliere, Bill Schenck and Christopher Selser, seeking artifacts their undercover source had learned about during the course of the investigation. Although agents seized certain items—as well as computers, business records and photographs—they have yet to file charges against the four Santa Fe residents (most of the arrestees live in Blanding, Utah). While recent daily newspaper coverage has focused on those particular raids, Santa Fe figures heavily into the story of archaeological looting for reasons that go beyond the handful of local dealers whose homes were searched. According to Phil Young, an archaeologist and retired National Park Service special agent, Santa Fe is the "hub of the wheel of the black-market trade" when it comes to illegal artifacts. Young should know: He has been tracking looters since the early 1990s and has seen their methods and networks evolve and expand. Of late, looters have become increasingly sophisticated, Young says, using GPS units and Google Earth to locate archaeological sites, and employing front-end loaders and backhoes to unearth remains. Such focused efforts in some ways reflect another important factor when it comes to archaeological looting. "Historically, the trend has usually been that the amount of looting and vandalism goes up at times when the economy has gone down and, in good economic times, the amount of vandalism and theft goes down," Young says. That trend seems to be holding true right now. "Even here in the Galisteo Basin, within the last year and a half, we've had an unauthorized hole put in a place that hadn't had any holes in 15 years," he says. "We've got that occurring at a historic and prehistoric turquoise mine in the Cerrillos Hills—when times get tough, people get very creative and, a lot of times, the ethical considerations get ignored." The issue of ethics can sometimes be a tricky one, especially considering the different views scientists, Native Americans and collectors take when it comes to the value of what lies beneath the soil. But the laws themselves are clear. Federal and New Mexico state laws protect sites, dictate who may excavate them and how, and ensure that no one can turn a profit on the bones—or sacred items—of someone else's ancestors. That said, the black market in illegal Native American artifacts is an increasingly complex network, one that sometimes overlaps with the drug trade and other crimes—and it's one that federal investigators are trying to wrestle under control. Beginning in the early '90s, a task force convened to clamp down on the theft of sacred objects, artifacts looted from public or tribal lands and human burials. Over coffee and a hash breakfast approximately a month after the Four Corners arrests, Young recalls the variety of criminals apprehended during earlier investigations: In 1994, federal agents confiscated 11 objects considered sacred by the Mescalero Apache Tribe from Santa Fe's East-West Trading Company. In another instance, an energy worker would scout northwestern New Mexico's oil and gas fields for archaeological sites, then return to loot them. After he was charged, he even admitted to using a concrete saw to slice Navajo pictographs from the sandstone bluffs on which they were painted. "Fifteen minutes per panel, he told us," Young says, "to steal those." Then, in the late '90s, an operation in the Farmington area yielded indictments of a dozen looters. That particular ring was also involved in the drug trade: "The guy who was the methamphetamine dealer was trading with meth heads for artifacts," Young says. "They would get high, work off their buzz—their high—doing destructive things to the scientific record, trying to recover these artifacts so they could go get high again." The US is just now catching up to the rest of the world in treating looting and artifact theft as serious crimes. Ten years ago, just three federal agents nationwide dealt full-time with the issue. Now, the FBI alone has 20 agents assigned to the arts and artifacts crimes unit—and one of them is stationed in Santa Fe. Collectors here appreciate—and can afford—rare items. But New Mexico is also a state in which looters are wreaking destruction. With a sweet, easy smile that somehow doesn't distract from the serious issue at hand, archaeologist Norman Nelson breaks down the enormity of New Mexico's looting problem. A native New Mexican and second-generation archaeologist, Nelson has worked in archaeology for three decades. "If you were to take the southwestern part of the state, we conservatively estimate that 95 percent of those sites have been damaged—and that's [by] everything from a shovel to a bulldozer," Nelson, who now works at the state Historic Preservation Division and is acting coordinator of the state's SiteWatch program, says. The prehistoric pottery found in that part of the state—Mimbres-style pottery has distinctive black-on-white geometric designs and, oftentimes, human or animal figures—is a high-end item, he says, that appeals to collectors, particularly those in places such as Scandinavia, Sweden, Germany, Japan and China. The black-market trade in artifacts is a $5 billion to $6 billion a year business, Nelson says—and it makes up a significant chunk of the illegal global market. "Arms is first, illegal drugs is second and artifacts is third." For complete review and additional details on how Fenn made his money (legally): https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjyj53RofPpAhUaIDQIHXjACMAQFjAAegQIBBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sfreporter.com%2Fnews%2Fcoverstories%2F2009%2F08%2F19%2Fstealing-the-past%2F&usg=AOvVaw1LZ0-EdIYD1oahT0zLZWEF
  10. 10/17/2018 "A Pennsylvania man arrested for burglarizing Forrest Fenn's New Mexico house told police he believed the famed art and antiquities collector's treasure would be there. Robert Miller, of Pine Grove, Pennsylvania, was arrested Friday and charged with residential burglary, breaking and entering and criminal damage to property after he used an ax to break into Fenn's Old Santa Fe Trail home. Miller told a Santa Fe police officer that he flew to Santa Fe because he believed the treasure chest that Fenn says he's stashed somewhere in the Rocky Mountain region, said to be filled with gold coins and other valuables worth more than $1 million, was at the house" Maybe Fenn wisely decided to try and avoid further incidents of this nature . . .
  11. I agree. Not only that, the find predates the discovery of gold in NV by over a 100 years. That's what makes it even more of a mystery.
  12. Forrest Fenn’s treasure found in Rocky Mountains “The guy who found it does not want his name mentioned. He’s from back East,” Forrest Fenn said. A perfect ending to the story . . .
  13. Lots of German immigrant miners back in the day. Did you happen to find any old rusted pieces of metal around where the coin was found that could have been part of a Bratwurst cart? Nice find!
  14. "Forrest Fenn was an art, antique dealer and author from Santa Fe, New Mexico, and before the treasure hunt, Fenn conflicted with authorities over Federal antiquities law. FBI agents raided his home in 2009 as part of an investigation into artifact looting in the Four Corners area and seized items, but he was not charged. Two people targeted in the case committed suicide, and Fenn has blamed the FBI for their deaths" Fenn's gallery sold a variety of American Indian artifacts, paintings, bronze sculptures, and other art, including forged copies of works by Modigliani, Monet, Degas, and other artists. The gallery reportedly grossed $6 million a year" We all tend to look at this story from different perspectives, depending upon our own background and experience. The fact that Fenn was an art and antique dealer tends to place him in a special category of "believably" in my experience as a Fraud Investigator. Fenn, being Irish, might share a figurative genetic connection to Darby o'gill, and have story telling in his DNA. But I wonder what kind of story a reliable polygraph might tell? And I would love to know what his insurance claim history looks like.
  15. I like his biopic introspection and expressive poetry. Wouldn't be surprised if the motivational emphasis in his mind was the sharing of the thrill of the hunt with others. That rings true to me more so than his explanation about "giving people hope". Also wouldn't be surprised if he actually was involved in setting up the recovery. More to this than meets the eye perhaps.
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