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  1. Guys this is no longer a stream, only hit water when I reach water table. There is a bigger stream on the property where I also prospect and I have stocked it a couple of times in the past with rainbow trout. I have a place higher up in the mtns. that is regularly stocked with rainbow & sometimes brown thats where I do most of my fishing. Fly fishing & surf fishing when I get to the coast are my two favorite types of fishing. Just went deep sea fishing last week for the first time in 40+ years at Calabash, NC and water was rough probably something to do with the tropical storm Debby, any way got sick after about 1 hr and had to stay out for another 2 1/2 - 3 hrs. never was so glad to hear the Capt. say bring em in we're heading back in.

  2. Thanks guys thought the answers might be what you said, just thought I would find something before reaching bedrock, plus the fact that gold is not everywhere in a stream bed but don't have the privilege of reading the stream now to see where it may have fell out.

  3. Located a previous underground stream bed (which is now underground & mostly dry) on my property where gold mining was carried on in the past, however not in this exact location. Have done some testing in one spot and have not come up with any gold yet. My question is where would the gold most likely be ? There is 3-4 ft over burden then 3+ ft of stream gravel then yellowish material and then bedrock which I haven't reached it is possibly another 3 ft or so. Since I haven't found anything yet should I continue to bedrock or try another spot, there are trees grown over the stream bed and very few spots without trees to test ? Any one with experience on this ? Located in Western NC in South Mtn. gold belt.

  4. Didn't know whether to post this here or in Rocks & Minerals, decided here since there is more activity here.

    My parents had some testing done for possible sand & gravel operation on the family farm some 20+ years ago by a company from Minnesota, we're in Western North Carolina. When the company finished testing they gave our family a description of two fields near creek where they tested and results from different test holes. In one of the fields which is 5 acres I notice that most of the test holes indicate gravel or sand/gravel over blue clay. However in a couple of places it shows gravel under the blue clay, for example: 5' dirt, 2' blue clay, & 2' gravel. Is there any significance to this related to gold and/or gemstones ? Company is no longer in business so can't talk to them.

    Some of you are probably geologists or have geological experience, would appreciate your views & thoughts.

    PS Have a pair of 10' post hole diggers on order so maybe I can verify if it there is need to and if that don't work can always get a trackhoe, these test hole are not that close to the current creek.

  5. Thanks all for the responses, it about what I thought (UNCERTAIN). I'm always on the lookout for gems & gold, one reason I asked the question was there was testing done along the area of the stream back in the 80's however all was done near the stream some on both sides which indicated bedrock at from 8-10 ft on the average, but none was done on the hillside. I've found rubies & sapphires in a small feeder stream and was going to try and find their source which I think will lead be towards the hillside. I'm looking at purchasing 10 ft split handle post hole diggers so I can test in areas not easily accessible. I borrowed a pair of 8 ft diggers from a utility worker and was pretty satisfied with the depth but would like to get a little deeper with my testing. Thanks again

  6. If Bedrock is at 8-10 ft at the level of the stream on my farm and I go up the ridge 50 ft elevation would bedrock be 58-60 ft or would it still be closer to 8-10 ft. Are there any variances for type soil location, etc. I'm in Western North Carolina in South Mtn. gold belt. Any experienced in this area ? If so would appreciate your thoughts.

  7. Bob & All: Was not considering crushing rock for REE's only for possibility of gold, all monazite that I've found, which was not been a lot was in the sands of the stream. Have been told by a amateur geologist who is familiar with the property that there had also been some Xenotime found on it in the past. Back to the rock crushing, I don't think the local rock crusher can get the rock small enough to release the gold, I have a good size John Deere tractor with front end loader and a small 4-wheel drive Ford F-350 v-8 460 cu inch dump truck with a 8' X 8' bed on it which does come in handy from time to time and is small enough to get into some pretty tight places. The gold mine tailing are old and have overgrown, some even have small trees in them so it's not like you can look and pick without digging and uncovering pretty much manually without cutting some trees to get a machine to the tailings. May put this on hold also for the time being and possibly save some sands this spring to have analyzed here locally if they are familiar with REE's. Thanks

  8. Thanks all for the info: Will try to answer some questions and make some additional comments. There is no water in the pegmatite which is on the side of a gulch or gulley, however at the base of the pegmatite in the gulch just a few feet below the peg a stream begins and flows and gets bigger and is the source of water for a horse pasture and then flows into a larger creek on the property. There so far has been no gold from the vein, have panned a couple of times. The most unusual thing so far is a couple of larger pieces of feldspar that I took home and soaked in Super Iron Out overnight and the feldspar then became really white and had a beautiful green band around both pieces, I rinsed it and left it out and it went back to the way I found it and you couldn't hardly seen the green at all. I took it over to the local NC Geological Survey and showed it to them ( 4 guys looked at it) and got no definitive answer as to what the green material was. I have repeated the process and it does the same way. I'm not as smart as you folks on minerals, so I don't know what any of the other materials may be. I recognize quartz, feldspar, mica but the black, pink, yellow material I don't know. Will keep you posted, am leaving the vein temporarily to test some gravel where the larger creek has ran in the past, hopefully for gold, rubies, and other gemstones. I am pretty good at identifying corundum, especially ruby and pink sapphire, as well as garnets. If anything different happens on the peg vein will let you know.

  9. Have a lot of old gold mine tailings on farm from 1800-1900's was wondering if it might be profitable to haul some to local rock crusher ? If anyone has experience would like to hear from you. How small would it need to be crushed, etc. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Located in Western North Carolina Gold Belt. Some would be easily accessible and some I would have to remove trees to get to.

    Thanks,

    Buckshot

  10. Hopefully I will attach pictures of pegmatite vein, smaller pictures were early on and larger ones from yesterday, after quite a bit of digging. Have found no gems but it really is educational and interesting seeing how the minerals form lines and then interact with each other. Worried about overhang above head so have backed out a little for safety and digging down instead of up. Did start finding small quartz pieces inside of feldspar.

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  11. Thanks Guys, Rockhunter 1620 there is an ultramafic body show on a geological map in the immediate vicinity and I think this may be why I have so many different minerals on the property, not too far from this vein is a big rock outcrop which is covered with small red garnets, largest maybe the size of a pea. Deer season will end here Sat. and some hunters have the adjoining property leased and this is not too far from the property line so I will possibly dig in it some after that.

    Gilaoro I haven't seen any water seep from this vein but I've not been there much yet, there is a smaller vein in a different location that I may or may not have posted some pictures of months ago that I'm not sure if it is a quartz vein or a pegmatite vein it is in a sidewall where apparently they hydraulic mined and in wet weather it will seep water. I've dug some in it but haven't found any gold yet. I know for a fact it contains quartz & feldspar and some mica but it's appearance is not as obvious as the other pegmatite and it has such a dip, I would probably need a machine to follow it.

  12. I've located a pegmatite vein on the farm this summer and it a little hard to get to, my question is to you who have experience in finding pockets in veins. Is there any clue as to whether a Pegmatite may have a pocket with gems before you spend a lot of time digging ? This particular vein is very weathered and soft in a red clay bank. If you have knowledge that would help, let me know before I shift my emphasis away from looking for rubies, I would like to find an emerald, I'm under the impression that they are sometimes found in pockets in pegmatite as welll as other gems, if I'm wrong on this thinking, tell me.

    Thanks,

    Buckshot

  13. Well I find in my old age that I tend to share or give away things that where given to me as secrets. one of them is the growth of trees.

    Long before I got into gold prospecting I was full time R/V living and did a lot of research on crystals but I was just following the guide books.

    Someone had told me about the Smokey Quartz at Lolo Pass MT. Well i went there and spent weeks searching and digging where others had dug, this was before the internet so you had to go to a large town with a college library to find geologic publications.

    Fortunately at Lolo Pass I met a fellow named Fred Gribler who gave me some tips on locating Pegmatites by size of the crystals in the decomposed granite of lolo and more importantly he gave me the name of a fellow in Republic , Wash who Fred said knew more about finding crystal pockets than anyone he had ever met.

    Well I proceeded to Republic and gave Andy Beckman a call and arranged to meet with him after he got off work, he lead me out to some old silver mine dumps where there where crystals in the tailings and showed me a mountain side where he said he would show us how to locate pockets, not only on this mt but anywhere you go that you can tell one tree from another.

    True to his word I met up Saturday Am with him and his digging pardners and as we sat by the road side Andy told me to just look at the mt side, well I looked and saw nothing unusual about it.

    He then pointed out a line of trees in sort of a line going up the mt, there where other trees but these where just a little different.

    He said that they had a preliminary start on a pocket that looked as if it would be big enough to walk inside of. He showed me then through the binoculars that the trees where much bigger in certain spots and that was where there where pockets of crystals and the trees and penetrated into the pockets and got more water and nutrients that caused them to thrive.

    He pointed out a spot for me to open up from scratch that would not be to deep for the time I had to dig.

    After several hours of digging his group opened a pocket the was big enough to stand in and they where bringing out huge clear quartz crystals , later at his home he showed me crystals that equaled in size anything i later saw in Arkansas.

    I broke into a small pocket in the hole he started me in and they where like sewing needles.

    Over the years I never got back to Republic or ran into Fred or Andy again but I have never forgot the technique and have used it many times to locate pockets, once at Dismal Swamp in Idaho it was my first visit there with friends and we camped high on a hill and they pointed out the area far below where we would be digging the next day, I looked around where we camped and saw a rusty stain bleeding from the granite and took my hammer and chisel and opened a hand size pocket filled with the most perfect double terminated smokey Quartz crystals, they said they had never found crystals like that in Dismal Swamp, i worked the mt side while they fought the mosquito's in the swamp. It don't work as well for gold but its something to keep in mind, those trees are that way for a reason.

    Max

    Gilaoro: Thanks for sharing that wisdom with us, it appears that not all wisdom is located in libraries but sometimes in the most unlikely places.
  14. There is not so many that it is catastrophic, the trees are mostly oak some of the older ones that are down I'm not sure since they have rottened some. In our area we do have the wooly adgelid or however it is spelled which attacks primarily hemlock trees but none of these are hemlocks, the terrain is not steep and elevation is 1350-1400 ft. The trees do turn up a pretty good size ball when they fall, maybe I need to dig under where the ball was and possibly see if bedrock is that shallow there and possibly run a metal detector also and possibly pan some of the material.

    GlennM, trying to live in peace with the deer hunters they have a lease on the adjoining property. I did find an old blind and a plastic crate for a seat about 10 ft or so on my property while marking the lines.

    Thanks all for the input.

  15. GlennM, the soil is not loose, plenty of ground cover and not really steep, these are pretty good size trees, have not prospected in this particular area, maybe I should though. Our deer gun season opens today and yesterday I was posting property lines when I noticed this area, will have to wait til deer season ends or go on Sunday Evenings after church since you can't gun hunt on Sundays in NC.

  16. In the woodlands on my farm there seems to be one area where there are more downed trees than the rest of woodlands, I'm not talking about a freak wind storm, some are freshly uprooted and others are from earlier period. Just curious if this might be an indicator of any thing mineralogically in that particular area. The property is located in Western North Carolina in one of the gold belts and there is gold on the farm which was mined in the 1800's & 1900's, however they did not mine in this particular area of the farm. Would like some input from more knowledgeable people than myself, thanks for any help.

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