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  1. Kanji are Japanese characters Chris. The OP is seeing Chinese. I see Greek writing but what it spells is too naughty to post on a public forum.
  2. As you guessed Edge Covid crap has made working with government offices worse. I don't know of a single County Recorders office in the west that's open to walk ins or over the counter at this point. That wasn't true at most Arizona recorders until the last two months or so. At one county recorder in California recently I couldn't find a record I needed so I requested a search. All county recorders will search their records for you. It's what they are elected to do - keep the public record and make it available to the public on request. All of the County Recorders I have encountered charge for the in house search service so to keep client costs down I try to avoid searches. This particular County Recorder refused to do a search. I asked why and the answer was "because Covid". I asked if they were fully staffed at full pay and the answer was yes. I got some attitude and no answer when I asked again why the County Recorder couldn't do the job they were elected for if all the needed resources were available to them. I'm getting lot's of "because Covid" excuses in fully staffed and paid government offices these days. Restaurants, banks and dope stores are open but most government offices are on fully paid in office Covid vacation. We do live in interesting times.
  3. That probably why they call it REsearch Chris. One search rarely gives you the whole picture. I have spent many hours, days and months in dark dank records basements staring at microfiche machines before the public records were digitized. I spent two weeks in Prescott researching just one location near Cherry. I have to laugh sometimes when I hear complaints about how hard this type of research is. The work hasn't gotten much easier or different but being able to do it from the comfort of my office instead of traveling many miles each day to dig through county records sure makes it more comfortable and efficient.
  4. Congratulations. Sounds like you are making progress Chris. Claim size reductions are properly accomplished as amendments to the original location. There is no need to make a new claim location to reduce a claim's size. In Maricopa County Claim Amendment records are grouped under "MINING CLAIM AND/OR LOCATION". You are probably better off to search for claim amendments by the claim name. Not all recordings are always categorized correctly in Maricopa. Sure would be a lot easier if they would just follow the law and organize their records by TRS. A word of caution regarding claim amendments. Claim amendments are most commonly the result of improperly filed claims at the BLM state office. The locator is sent a notice by the BLM to amend their claim or have their claim case file closed. Usually those notices will occur within the first three years of location. Once a notice to amend is received the claimant needs to stake the modified claim location on the ground, make a claim amendment with map if needed, record that amendment with the county and file a copy with the BLM state office. Usually they only have 30 days to accomplish all that. Most claimants just skip the staking and county recording. That's bad for the claim validity and stupid because the public has no other way of knowing where the claim is now located. Often you will reach a dead end with claim amendments. How you deal with that is problematic. The amended map filed at the BLM has no legal existence until the staking and county recording are accomplished. It may show what the claim owner intended but it legally amounts to nothing more than wishes and dreams. Without a public record and stakes the claim essentially is in limbo. The BLM won't recognize the validity of the original location but there is no legally required public record of the amended location. No stakes on the ground and no public record made means the amended claim has no definable location. If the location isn't definable then it isn't really a location at all is it? As you know I deal with this stuff daily. I'll help you with what I can but if locators and claimants don't maintain a public record there is nothing you or I can do to know where or if a valid claim exists. Welcome to my world.
  5. You are welcome Chris. It's not new. Government records are available by request. You can order any filings in a BLM case file unless it proprietary information like assay results or claim minerals maps. Getting the right ones sent to you in a timely manner is a different story. I haven't ordered many from Arizona but in California I have and they get about 70% of them right the first time. In California the price per page varies by day and who you talk to. Generally it's about 15 cents a page + mailing. I suggest you call first, get a name and a price, and then fax or email the person you spoke to a list of what filings you want. Be specific sometimes I have not received the location map because I didn't ask specifically.
  6. Glad I could help Chris. Land Matters has always provided the County Book and Page for the Location Notice IF the BLM provides it. The BLM only adds the county info to their database if the locator filed a copy of their county record. If the locator files with the BLM first there will never be a Book and Page reference in the BLM files. That's one of the reasons we suggest the Public Record at the County should be made before the informational filing with the BLM. The Maricopa County Records search has some very basic problems with the way the database is searched. Searching by name may not work at all but the record can sometimes be found by date or visa versa. Just because you can't find a record with their search don't assume the claim was never recorded. Try different searches until you get a result - or not. I don't have that problem in other Arizona counties. You can order a copy of the location notice and map filed with the BLM. It's just a few cents a page plus actual mailing costs. The problem with that, as you noticed, is that many claims and claim amendments are never recorded by the claimants. Technically these claims don't legally exist and you can rely on that but only if you are willing to go to court. The BLM filing means nothing in court because the BLM can't certify their files or testify in court about ownership in a mining claim case. I've gotten a lot of docs from the Maricopa County Recorder. I'm sure if I kept after them to bring their systems up to par I would have gotten more attitude than docs. It's a cranky place, more so than any other recorder in Arizona. It might be good to remember that the County Recorder is an elected official on par with the Sheriff. Around election time you might have better luck.
  7. You can search for claim names at the Maricopa County Recorder. Just put the claim name in the "Business Name" box. If there is more than one claim by that name a list will drop down and allow you to pick which one you want. If you are not sure just don't pick one from the list and you will get all documents related to what you typed. To narrow your search even more you can select a date range as you pointed out but you can also select the type of document under the "Document Code" dropdown. Choose "Mining Claim or Location" if you are looking for the location notice, choose "Assignment of Mining Claim" if you are looking for a Quit Claim etc. Leave the "Document Code" field blank if you want everything recorded for that claim. You can use the same features with names so you can see all the mining docs for a claimant. I have complained to the Maricopa County Recorder because under Arizona law 27-203 they are supposed to index mining claims by Township Range and Section. I have never received a reply. Maybe you will if you ask nicely. Sure would make things a lot easier. Most other counties in Arizona are much more accommodating. Hope that helps you Chris.
  8. Very cool. I love sciencey things. What do you do with the moon(s) you catch? Seems like they might have a commercial value - being rare and all. Also with the laws of conservation of energy doesn't the energy exchange wind up with lunar heating? Is the moon going to catch fire if everyone does this? (also cool)
  9. I've used these for years Tom. https://www.amazon.com/UltraFire-Flashlights-Adjustable-Tactical-Flashlight/dp/B07BDGD8KR Single mode on/off, bright, small, tough, waterproof and run forever on a single AAA. I've found about 1 in three of them have a weak cree 5 chip but at the price I just give the weak ones to children and keep the good ones for friends.
  10. Ah ... I misunderstood. Smelting is the process of heating ore to extract the free metals contained in those ores. I think you are not so much smelting as melting your gold. Is your intent to remove the other metals from your gold to make a 24K (pure) gold bar?
  11. Cuprite is an oxide of Copper Jim. The flame testing green shows the presence of copper. You can't convert an oxide of a metallic element to the pure element by heating it in air. That just oxidizes the mineral form being heated. Since Cuprite is already fully oxidized copper the best you can hope for from heating in air would be melted Cuprite - not copper metal. Cuprite melts at about 300 degrees higher than copper so heating the sample to red won't melt the Cuprite. More heat would be needed. To get metallic copper from Cuprite you will need to heat it to about 2,400 degrees F in a reducing atmosphere to free the copper from it's oxidized state. Lots more heat with no oxygen. Then you can extract copper from Cuprite or other copper oxides. That reducing atmosphere and heat and a fair amount of an appropriate flux should allow the copper prill to form on the bottom of the crucible. No flux and you end up with little copper prills trapped throughout the resulting slag. ___________________________________ Now for some pure speculation. What you have may not be Cuprite or a natural mineral. When copper sulfides are processed the basic process is to heat the ore in the presence of oxygen to convert the sulfide to an oxide. At that point you have created a copper oxide. That roasted and oxidized result is known as matte. To continue the processing to extract the copper the matte is heated further in a reducing atmosphere. The resulting product from reducing the matte is known as slag. Free copper will be found in little prills inside the slag mass if no appropriate flux was used in that last step. Now if the matte was created in a small batch with minimal heat control small portions of the inside of the matte can become oxygen deficient and be reduced to slag with the trapped copper prills intact. Mostly oxidized matte (no free copper) with some slag (free copper). Imagine a prospector was doing some quick roasting in the field for analysis and the oxidized matte produced was left behind after investigation. The copper in the matte would continue to convert to Azurite as it was exposed to the carbon dioxide in rain water. As you know this happens fairly quickly when copper rich minerals are left exposed on the surface. Far fetched? I've seen stranger things in mining areas and I'm sure you have also. Just a possibility to consider.
  12. Cuprite streaks metallic red - brown. Although Cuprite is dark red it often looks black or dark brown. Look with good magnification for dark red crystals in the matrix. My guess is Cuprite.
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