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    Meteorite hunting, astronomy-observing transient phenomena, Christian apologetics, China, linguistics expert, world traveler

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  1. billpeters

    Incoming!

    Hey Tom, Report your observation at www.amsmeteors.org please. There is one other report by Allison M. from Tucson about the same event date and time. If enough people report this triangulation is possible. Thanks, billpeters P.S. I have a lifetime observation count of 20,200 meteors with dozens of bollides. P.S.S. Mortlock, I have never heard a bollide ablate (detonate). I would like to. All have been too far away. The delayed sound would normally be 2-5 minutes later. Much, much longer than thunder following lightning, which normally cannot be heard after 25 seconds (5 miles).
  2. Here, https://www.amsmeteors.org/members/imo_view/browse_events?country=-1&year=2018&num_report_select=-99&event=&event_id=&event_year=&num_report=-99 billpeters
  3. Markzymark, The stone has gas-like vestibules, sharp angular surfaces, a terrestrially weathered surface, surface inclusions the same as internal break surfaces, and a uniform molten appearance;. None, of which, are typical of meteorites. The stone completely lacks a meteoritic crust, no chrondrules observed, no visible metal flecks. It has the appearance and characteristics of a terrestrial iron rich stone lacking characteristics of a typical meteorite. Read O Richard Norton's "Rocks from Space" and visit a meteorite-themed collection, such as; Arizona State University's 'Meteorite Center" or similar venue. You may want to purchase confirmed meteorites from reputable dealers for you collection and study. Keep looking down. They're out there. billpeters
  4. Authentic Man Made Martian Dirt for Sale $20/Km, NASA is buying 1/2 ton of authentic man made Martian dirt made by the University of Central Florida. and UCF is now selling it to the general public for about $20/km. See article: https://interestingengineering.com/you-can-now-buy-martian-dirt-for-just-20-a-kilogram Hey! That's not fair. I started making authentic man made Martian rocks first! I should of patented it. Drats! billpeters
  5. No, it's water worn and the matrix is typical of terrestrial stones and atypical of meteorites. Take a look at your rock. If it glistens like a crystal structure (ie: quartz) at any point in the rock it can’t be a meteorite. If it has layers, it can’t be a meteorite, it’s sedimentary. If it has small gas bubbles in it, it can’t be a meteorite. It’s basalt. If it is moderately magnetic it is not a meteorite. If there is a thick crust on it, it can’t be a meteorite. File off a corner or cut it. It won’t diminish it’s value. If there is all bright silvery metal it can’t be a meteorite. If it is all grey metal it can’t be a meteorite. If there is black crust as thin as a fingernail, and crazing on the outside of the rock, it might be a meteorite. If there are small silver specks visible in the filed off section, it might be meteorite. There are billions of magnetic rocks in the US, none of which are meteorites. Anyone can find magnetic earth stones nearly everywhere. Just take a strong magnet and drop into sand and you will see what I mean. Check our O Richard Norton’s, “Rocks from Space” or visit the ASU Meteorite Center or similar center. billpeters
  6. That's a pretty cool water worn, terrestrial rock. The rectangular off-gray nose might help ID the rock. It has no characteristics of a meteorite. Good luck IDing it. billpeters
  7. billpeters

    Meteorite Hunting With A Twist

    Hey Rocky, Go make your own lunars. I already gave you the tutorial. billpeters
  8. billpeters

    Meteorite Hunting With A Twist

    I will milk that cow just as long as I can until at last it becomes an utter failure. billpeters
  9. billpeters

    Meteorite Hunting With A Twist

    Hey! That's not fair. I make authentic Moon rocks myself and provide a tutorial. Look at my thread post, "How to make Authentic Man Made Lunars". The government has no right to take away my right to buy, sell or trade my Moon rocks. Just check out all of my NWA 5000s being constantly sold and resold on eBay. billpeters
  10. billpeters

    Meteorite?

    DRP, Yes, there are categorized exceptions to nearly everything I have written above, but they are not the norm. The rock above is terrestrial. However, that marble may be out of this world. Cheers! billpeters
  11. billpeters

    Meteorite?

    No, it is iron slag. Take a look at your rock(s). If it glistens like a crystal structure (ie: quartz) at any point in the rock it can’t be a meteorite. If it has layers, it can’t be a meteorite, it’s sedimentary. If it has small gas bubbles in it, it can’t be a meteorite. It’s basalt. If it is moderately magnetic it is not a meteorite. If there is a thick crust on it, it can’t be a meteorite. File off a corner or cut it. It won’t diminish it’s value. If there is all bright silvery metal it can’t be a meteorite. If it is all grey metal it can’t be a meteorite. If there is black crust as thin as a fingernail, and crazing on the outside of the rock, it might be a meteorite. If there are small silver specks visible in the filed off section, it might be meteorite. There are billions of magnetic rocks in the US, none of which are meteorites. Anyone can find magnetic earth stones nearly everywhere. Just take a strong magnet and drop into sand and you will see what I mean. Check our O Richard Norton’s, “Rocks from Space” or visit the ASU Meteorite Center or similar center. billpeters
  12. billpeters

    Rather be lucky than good!

    DRP, Almost no one lives near a smelter. However, those rocks are found almost everywhere. I had found them in my front yard every spring when I used to live in Bedford, Ohio. They would use cinder slag on the roads for ice traction every winter. Inevitably, there would be uncrushed slag rocks by the curb in the grass. Dense slag is used in all kinds of construction projects, primarily of road beds. You will always 'notice' a rock for the 'first time', but that doesn't mean that it hasn't been there a long time. It may have been buried in dust or dirt and kicked up by a tire or washed clean by rain. Who knows? I would rate your rock as more likely to have fallen off of the Space Station than to be an actual meteorite. Blessings, billpeters
  13. Authentic man made lunars always make the best lunars, but buyer beware, there are a lot of poor quality fakes out there. In this tutorial, I present my first serious attempt at making an authentic lunar rock. I tend to do things the hard way, but also consider everything a learning experience, an experiment, if you will. I have since learned there are other methods to follow, but again, this is my first dedicated attempt. My eventual goal is to make a quality lunar for display. Eventually, I will be able to build variations of lunar highland features and basaltic mares using the techniques, and improvements I have learned, and save a ton of money on the rocks. Let’s proceed: Step 1: Gather Necessary Materials and Tools To make a lunar rock you need the highest grade customized concrete and sand blends possible. The ingredients make the rock. You need to have a highly specialized blend containing Mg-bearing ilmenite, Ti-bearing chromite, silica polymorph, K-feldspar, kamacite, and troilite, igneous gabbro sand, olivine, iron oxide, nickel, with a touch of zirconolite in the coarse grained sand matrix. This sounds difficult to obtain but I was able to order just such a specialty blend from Jamalito Enterprises, a Nairobi, Kenyan based firm. I started with a small corrugated cardboard box. I used lots of cardboard, so have a good supply on hand as well. Old newspapers for wrap, some chicken wire, industrial blended cement, specialized mortar and of course cement tools such as; spreaders, trowels, buckets, access to water, cement, sand and mortar mix. Step 2: Design and Start Construction Thinking I could make a shape with cardboard as well, I made extensions out of cardboard that were glued onto the box with regular white glue. I let these sit over night to ensure that the glue was dried, and the bond was strong. It's sometimes easier to do these type of projects in stages, no hurry, no rush. Step 3: Roughout Seen in this picture is the rough rock, and the spaces in between the extensions are filled with newspaper. I even used some styrofoam as a mold as well. It doesn't matter, you just want to make some support for your cement mix. Step 4: Wrap Form With Chicken Wire After enough newspaper and or styrofoam has been added to the "rock" form, it is all wrapped with chicken wire. I used the 2 inch size as it was cheaper, but 1 inch might be preferred. I made two layers of wire, thinking hole sizes would help hold the mortar frame inside better. Step 5: Mix Customized Cement Mortar Following manufacturer’s guidelines, I use a mix of 3 parts silica sand to 1 part cement, with enough water to make a "stiff" mix of mortar. Using this basic formula (it can be as much as 4 parts sand to 1 part cement) other variations can be tried. For example, you can add a latex polymer tile set product as one part of the sand allotment. It then becomes: 2 parts sand, 1 part polymer, 1 part cement, plus the water. This adds some sticking power to the mortar mix, and makes it easier to control, I believe. Step 6: Add Mortar Mix to Rock Now take off the outer cardboard-styroform or wire mesh form. Using a 3 inch spreader knife (drywall), I spread the mixture over the rock form. I started at the bottom edge of the form so that any loose mortar could be picked up and added to the rock before moving on. I set my form on a lazy susan turntable, covered in waste cardboard to make it easier to work around the form, and of course the cardboard caught the inevitable drips of mortar. Step 7: Carving the Rock Before the mixture hardens, but after the form has taken hold, begin carving the rock with a trowel, a spreader and a knife. You have to make it look natural. I will need indents and pock marks. Try to imitate images of other meteorites. In the working picture above I have partially shaped the rock to take away the ‘meatloaf’ look and make it more natural. After the mortar was set enough I could see if I had any missed spots. To fill in these areas, I mixed some fresh polymer tile set, colored with cement colorant in a buff tone. This went on very easily, and towards the end, I added a little bit of water to the mix, and using an old brush, covered the entire rock with the colored and diluted tile set. This dried very quickly, and I could stop here! To further experiment, I added various weathering techniques, using acrylic paints to make "washes" of color, spattering with various colored paint, and so on. Step 8: Cook the Rock in the Oven 6-8 Hours Most of us do not have access to a kiln to cure a rock under a very high temperature, but an oven will work just fine. You need to first let your rock cure overnight at room temperature to let it set properly. Otherwise, the rock may fracture when placed in the oven. It takes at least six to eight hours to cook the rock properly depending on the size, twice as long as a turkey. The purpose of the cooking is to remove as much water as possible from the rock, blacken the outside, add a patina, and cause surface crazing. Remember the Moon is very dry. Think of a burnt pot roast – the longer it cooks the blacker and crustier and drier it gets. That is what you want. I started at 350 degrees for three hours. Then I increased the temperate to 450 for three hours. Finally, I turned it up to broil for the final two hours. Then, I left it in the oven overnight to cool down and completely set. Don’t touch it too soon as the rock stays hot for a very long time. The next morning it was still warm, but cool enough to give it a final brushing and cleansing to knock off any burrs. Step 9: Final Rock Here is a picture of my friend, Greg Hupe, holding up the final product. I have decided to call this one the New World Authenticated lunar and give it the number 5000 or NWA 5000 for short. I believe that everyone should have a sample of an authenticated NWA 5000 in their collections. It is such a beautiful rock! I have made slices and chips available to various dealers and individuals and on ebay©. Enjoy, Next, I will teach you how to make carbons. billpeters
  14. billpeters

    In his yard...?

    What a beautiful meteorite. Lawrence Garvie, ASU Meteorite Center, knows his stuff. I think I'll go visit neighboring Glendale, AZ and have a look around. billpeters
  15. billpeters

    Ghubara L5 Chondrite

    That is not Ghubara, This is Ghubara as published in the Meteoritical Bulletin. billpeters
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