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  1. That's awesome Ron! Now all you need to find is my wedding band. Kinda funny that detectorists loose stuff and can't find it too. :tisc-tisc: Later...Jim P.
  2. Hi all, good news Ron :cool04: I don't know where it is now, but I passed on info on a good area near Trilby when I left the claims director post. I raised a question with the BLM about Ted's claim on the area at the time (map didn't match the description) but never heard what they were going to do about it. Hopefully, it will be included in the vacated areas and we can claim it. I'll pass it on to Gene and keep an eye on it. Later...Jim P.
  3. Hi all, just another quick update. I had a somewhat lengthy discussion with two of the architects of this bill. Both are heavily involved in the Arizona offroading community. My take is that they have the correct intentions, but are missing the mark when it come to preserving our rights. They are convinced that their bill " closes absolutely NO TRAILS OR ROADS". I'm convinced otherwise. I hope I'm wrong. Here's a link to the discussion on the Arizona Virtual jeep club forum. Later...Jim P. AZVJC forum
  4. Finally, someone down there is doing their job. :whoopie: I hope it sticks. Later...Jim P.
  5. Hi all, as I predicted in an earlier post, the OHV bill HB 2573 has been brought back to life. It was reincarnated as Senate Bill 1167. http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/48leg/2r/adop...167-se-nrps.pdf Same wording, different number. Please check it out and let you opinions be heard. Check out these posts if you have no idea what I'm talking about. Later...Jim P. http://www.nuggetshooter.ipbhost.com/index...showtopic=12622http://www.nuggetshooter.ipbhost.com/index...showtopic=12622 http://www.nuggetshooter.ipbhost.com/index...showtopic=12693http://www.nuggetshooter.ipbhost.com/index...showtopic=12693
  6. Glad to see you are feeling better Roger, have a great time and be safe. Later...Jim P.
  7. Congrats Grandpa, hard work and sitcktoitivness pay off. Keep em' coming. Later...Jim P.
  8. Hi all, just a quick update to let you know that this Bill was voted down (tie vote)by the Natural Resources and Rural affairs committee. But be certain, it's not dead, and probably never will be until they pass something. Sen. Robert Blendu from Litchfield Park is the leader of the opposition. if you would like to offer support or thanks here's his contact info. rblendu@azleg.gov 602-926-5955 Sen. Jake Flake jflake@azleg.gov 602-926-5219 was the only Republican on the panel to vote for the Bill, he is also the Chairman. I'd say he needs to hear from those of you who oppose this bill. Please offer your reasons for opposition and maybe some alternatives, not attacks for his support of the bill. The next stop for the Bill was to be the Transportation Committee. Sen. Ron Gould, rgould@azleg.gov 602-926-4138 is that panel's Chairman. I believe he is opposed to the bill, but an email or a phone call might help confirm that stance. Again, I believe this Bill, in some form or another will pass. We just need to make sure we aren't paying too high a price in terms of our right to access. Thanks for your help and support. Later...Jim P.
  9. HI all, one more thing I forgot to bring up. I find no provision in this bill for the state to collect the funds. Take a look at this from the bill. "Any governmental agency, corporation or other individual that 16 conducts a training and OR educational course, OR BOTH, that is approved by 17 the ARIZONA GAME AND FISH department, THE UNITED STATES BUREAU OF LAND 18 MANAGEMENT OR THE UNITED STATES FOREST SERVICE OR THAT IS APPROVED OR 19 ACCEPTED BY THE ALL-TERRAIN VEHICLE SAFETY INSTITUTE OR THE NATIONAL 20 OFF-HIGHWAY VEHICLE CONSERVATION COUNCIL may collect a fee FROM THE 21 PARTICIPANT that is reasonable and commensurate for the training and that 22 IS DETERMINED BY THE DIRECTOR OF THE ARIZONA 23 GAME AND FISH DEPARTMENT BY RULE." Anyone can give the training and collect the money. Are they doing it out of the goodness of their hearts and turning the money over to the state? I doubt it. Take a look at all the letters of support form OHV dealers. Do you think money could be the motivator? What a great deal for them, they guaranty their customers will continue to have a place to use their products plus they get to charge them for the government mandated training. Now that's the American way. I'm sure the G&F or state would charge a licensing fee to the instructors, but most of the money would stay in their hands. Rob, Bill and Chris, maybe you could get in on the action. Lobby the legislature for a prospector's permit that requires a training course for all prospecting, approved equipment, and designated areas to prospect. Sound like a win-win if I ever heard one. I'm being sarcastic of course, please don't take that as a swipe in any way. I don't want to distract attention from the threat to our rights to access by bringing this up, but I thought it might help explain why so many dealers support the bill. Later...Jim P.
  10. Hi all, I received a reply from one of my Representatives, Bob Stump. He writes: "Sen. Jake Flake's committee is this bill's next stop. You might drop him a line to share your thoughts. The bill goes to Transportation after that. Sen. Ron Gould is that committee's chairman. Thanks again. Best, Bob Stump" So, if you would like to offer your opinion Here's Senator Flakes email. jflake@azleg.gov Uncle Ron already posted Senator Gould's info but here it is again. rgould@azleg.gov Here are a few more thoughts on the subject. What can we offer as an alternative to this Bill? My fear is if we stop this bill from becoming law, something worse will follow, like a voter initiative. I can only think of a few groups who are organized and funded well enough to get an initiative on the ballot and it's not prospectors or ATVers. How do we stop the destruction of our public lands without giving up our freedom? The Game and Fish department has "Operation Game Thief" for poachers, why not try something like that for trail-blazers?For me, it's not so much about the fees or permits as it is about language like this; "A person to SHALL NOT drive an off-highway vehicle... ON ROADS, TRAILS, ROUTES OR AREAS CLOSED AS INDICATED IN RULES OR REGULATIONS OF A FEDERAL AGENCY, THIS STATE, A COUNTY OR A MUNICIPALITY OR BY PROPER POSTING IF THE LAND IS PRIVATE LAND. 4. OVER UNIMPROVED ROADS, TRAILS, ROUTES OR AREAS UNLESS DRIVING ON ROADS, TRAILS, ROUTES OR AREAS WHERE SUCH DRIVING IS ALLOWED BY RULE OR REGULATION. B. A PERSON SHALL DRIVE AN OFF-HIGHWAY VEHICLE ONLY ON ROADS, TRAILS, ROUTES OR AREAS THAT ARE OPENED AS INDICATED IN RULES OR REGULATIONS OF A FEDERAL AGENCY, THIS STATE, A COUNTY OR A MUNICIPALITY." As long as I follow the existing law, why should my access by whatever means I chose be denied? If we give in to this language, we are at the mercy of our government. I'm tired and thinking about this makes me too angry to think straight right now, but I know there is a better solution. Please offer any ideas here or to our legislators. Thanks. Later...Jim P.
  11. Persistence pays off. :icon_mrgreen: Congrats Frank. Later...Jim P.
  12. Just a spelling error Bill, but it looks like it miraculously fixed itself. :innocent0009: Thanks...Jim
  13. Hi Guy's thanks for the support. Ron, thanks for posting this here. Your link doesn't work for me. Try this one. http://www.azleg.gov/MembersPage.asp?Membe...;Legislature=48 Roger, Rep. Gould sounds like a real good man, I was reading his sponsored and co-sponsored bills and liked what I saw. I wasn't sure what to think about the " I didn't pay enough" Bill though. Later...Jim P.
  14. Thank you, everyone! If more people would act like you guys, there would never be this sort of legislation to worry about. Here's a prime example of the mentality of our "Representatives" "David, This bill is necessary to protect the privledge. To many people are abusing our lands and this tool is necessary to deal with the growing problem. Sincerely, Representative Ulmer " Privilege??? According to the Mining laws and the Fifth Amendment according to some scholars, We have the RIGHT to access our public lands. If our elected officials don't know the difference, what hope do we have? Later...Jim P.
  15. Hey! I know that guy. But what's all that green stuff on the ground? :hmmmmmm: He didn't give up any info did he? :shrug: Later...Jim P.
  16. Hi Mike, glad everything turned out OK. I'll leave the jokes to the profesionals. "A doctor operated on a person for a hernia. He opened his testis and took the balls out and kept it on the table. At the end of the operation he wanted to put his balls back into the pouch of testis. He searched operation theatre but could not find the balls of the patient. Lastly he told nurse to get two small onions from his lunch box as he cannot keep his testis pouch empty.After that operation he met the same patient in a garden for morning walk. Being a good doc, he asked his patient how he is feeling now. He said "Doc everything is fine, life is very cool except that whenever I scratch my balls, my eyes start watering." " Later...Jim P.
  17. Hi Bill and all, Please click the link below. Then click Read an overview of House Bill 2573. House Bill 2573 imposes a fee and other requirements for driving "off road" in AZ :grrr01: Once again, we have to pay for someone else's stupidity! Don't think it will end here, this is just the tip of the ice burg. It won't be long before OHVs are only allowed in designated areas. It looks like there might be a run on burros again :icon1: Thanks for checking it out. Later...Jim P. PS. Bill, how do I correct my post header? AZG&F offroad legislatoin
  18. Great gesture guys. :yourock: You don't need our approval for that amount, but thanks for asking. It's a YES from me. Later...Jim P.
  19. Good one Bill :Huh_anim]: Good luck. Later...Jim P.
  20. You have our sympathy George. My family and I will be praying for you. God bless and God speed...Jim P.
  21. Hi all, I guess this is one of those issues that should have been talked about before we started marking claims. I don't see a problem with erecting our own poles on leased claims. As long as we aren't removing the existing marker (if it exists) and we take them down when we drop a claim. Similar to a business leasing a commercial building and putting up their own sign. For what it's worth, I think we should adopt an official color scheme for our poles and then add which claim (name and AMC #) and which corner in the field with a tag or marker. Less work for Gene or whom ever is making the poles and still gives our members a universal way to ID the claim. Later...Jim P.
  22. darn Bill! First your wife and now you? Too bad it screwed up your weekend but it could have been worse. I hope there's a 1+ ozer waiting under that rock for you. Later...Jim P.
  23. Hi Leigh, good to see you posting again. Sounds like a great adventure you were on.Congrats on the nugget. Later...Jim P.
  24. Hi all, what a blast! Literally. It was good to meet/see all of you. A word to the wise, anyone meeting this crew in the future; be on time :smrt1: We arrived at 9:02, and by the time we caught up with the gang, half the job was done. Sepacial thanks and cudos to Gene for making very profesional looking posts and to Blake for suggesting/settin this one up. :yourock: No gold for us, but my boys won't soon forget this trip. Besides the explosions and full auto gunfire, we found one of the biggest desert tortises I've seen. I'd suggest that we get some of those metal "federal mining claim" signs to put up next to the road into the claim. Our corner posts are all but invisible from the road. Maybe we could rivet or screw them to the rock outcrops so they last a little longer. Later...Jim P.
  25. Six hours total spent marking claim corners with about an hour and a half detecting. No gold found. Later...Jim P.
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