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  1. Very little water in Big bug, haven't been to Wolf recently. Lynx might have better water. Later...Jim P.
  2. Thanks for the reminder Clay! Also worth mentioning is that it's mail only, no walking it in this year until further notice due to Covid concerns. Get them in the mail and make sure you track it! Later...Jim P.
  3. They might need a gentile reminder that you are mining under the 1872 mining law and have right to access. From the forest service's own manual https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/fseprd533980.pdf 2813.14 - Right of Access to Claim The right of reasonable access for purposes of prospecting, locating, and mining is provided by statute. Such access must be in accordance with the rules and regulations of the Forest Service. However, the rules and regulations may not be applied so as to prevent lawful mineral activities or to cause undue hardship on bona fide prospectors and miners. Don;t know if this applies to your road, but if it existed before 1976, they aren't supposed to close it per https://www.azleg.gov/ars/37/00931.htm Good luck, and keep us informed if you would. Later...Jim P.
  4. Sad news for sure, most helpful guy around, RIP my friend.
  5. Sorry for your loss Chris, I saw of his passing in the latest Roadrunner's newsletter. Great memories. Later...Jim P.
  6. Sorry to hear this Rick, You'll be in my prayers. Later...Jim P.
  7. Snakejim is correct, I'll just add that any association placer claim of up to 160 acres still counts as a single claim under the small miner exemption. Later...Jim P.
  8. Volunteer or nominate someone to be a voice for miners and prospectors in the Prescott National Forest https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/prescott/news-events/?cid=FSEPRD640442
  9. I detected and dug up a desert iguana buried in the sand of a wash back in my VLF days, scared the crap out of me. Keep digging and good luck. Later...Jim P.
  10. I replied to Les with the following excerpt from CFR 3809.5 describing no notice level "casual use"; "it may include the use of small portable suction dredges" This is the current standard so I don't know why the AZ BLM gets to claiming otherwise. I can't seem to paste here, just Google CFR 3809.5 and CFR 3715 which deals with occupancy. Later...Jim P.
  11. I've not felt the need to respond to a post or thread here for a long time, but this one got my ire up a little. While I believe Wyoprospector is beyond help, I'd say a conservative estimate of those who have been helped by Bill and the members on this forum is in the multiple thousands, myself included. While Bill and I have not always seen eye to eye on everything over the years, he's always had my respect and appreciation for his wiliness to share both time and knowledge. In fact it's all Bill's fault; if he hadn't been so generous, I'd probably still be poking around with my Tesoro Diablo, finding a nugget one in a blue moon. Bill and I met up for a hunt many moons ago at the LSD. Right off the bat he offered good info on the area's geology and gold production. He then offered a practical stranger his Minelab 2100 to try out.(keep in mind this was 20 plus years ago and the minelab was an incredibly expensive machine, especially compared to my budget breaking Tesor that I bought for $100 at a pawn shop) He gave me a quick rundown of the detector and then made himself scarce. I was hooked from the first moment I held that machine and heard the tone. I could finally hunt like I always wanted to without all the squawking and popping of the VLF. I was forever ruined when it came to detectors and started saving immediately for a minelab of my own. I think the most important part of this story is the fact that Bill had nothing to gain from this other than satisfaction and friendship, this was many years before he became a dealer of any kind. I don't think much has changed since then, Bill is still out there giving people help, inspiration and hope, and yes, hopefully gaining a few $$ along the way. So, for those newcomers reading this thread; beware. Beware naysayers who claim that there's no help, no hope and only profiteers looking to take your money. Later...Jim P.
  12. This might be worth looking into if you have the time. The BLM has an advisory board with members that represent interests outside of the BLM and they have vacancies here in AZ. Later...Jim P. https://www.blm.gov/get-involved/resource-advisory-council/near-you/arizona Update: just found the deadline for nominations this year, it's today, June 4th. Start working on next years application.
  13. Chrisski, I applaud your willingness to get involved. I'll help if I can, but I must warn you that my efforts in this area go back 15+ years and I'm weary and jaded. For many years, I've attempted and failed to get the off-road crowd, hikers, bikers and even some miners to realize the importance of the 1872 and related mining laws as the only way to gain a "right" to access. If we find a better communicator than I, (you maybe?) maybe we can have success in forming an alliance of sorts with some of the other interested parties. PM me if I can help. Later...Jim P.
  14. I based my statement on a recent post on facebook by the NMRA referring to them speaking at a GPAA chapter meeting at the request of Kevin Hogland. American Mining Rights Association May 11 at 7:42am · Currently proposed Arizona road closures by BLM and what to do about them: We are currently in Arizona and spoke at the GPAA Gold Fever West Valley Chapter last night about a new proposal by the BLM to close 505 miles of of public land roads under their Travel Management Plan. Most of these lands are used by miners, recreationalists, hikers, campers, hunters and off-roaders. What BLM is doing is proposing changes these currently accessible roads, or basically........restricts your access to your lands. Here is the link to their plan: https://eplanning.blm.gov/…/eplanning/planAndProjectSite.do… Kevin Hoagland asked us to speak last night at the Chapter meeting and when Jere and I were preparing for the discussion, we decided to do a little research on the computer about RS2477 roads in Arizona and whoa did we find a gem. First of all, RS2477 (revised statute 2477) is a part of the original 1872 mining grant. In a nutshell, it states the roads and travel routes must remain open for exploration, mining and usage. In 1976, Congress passed FLPMA, the Federal Lands Policy Management Act and claim they now can close all the roads willy-nilly at their discretion. Well, not so fast BLM and USFS. Under 2477, they cannot close any roads which predate 1976. If it is a road "created" after 1976, they can, prior to that, no they can't, it's really that simple. Just two years ago, Utah took this issue all the way to their Supreme Court and the court ruled unanimously that RS2477 is valid and their roads must remain open and accessible for public use and for mining. So back to Arizona and our research........ On a whim, I typed in "Arizona RS2477" just to see if there was anything out there Arizona had done on keeping the roads open to the mining community and the public at large. What we found is, like Utah, the Arizona Congress and politic body decided to protect their roads that the public uses and took it a step further than Utah did. They passed a bill telling the Federal Government they cannot close roads under RS2477. So in clear language, Arizona told the United States government, any roads in the state which predate 1976, they will not allow the Federal Government under FLPMA to close them period. End of story Arizona House Bill 2175 passed in April of 2015 and signed by Arizona's Governor states just that. Gotta love Arizona and these politicians who told the Federal Government if you aren't going to recognize RS2477, we will and will not allow you to close our roads. (link below) https://www.azleg.gov/legtext/52leg/1r/bills/hb2175h.pdf So what does all this mean? It means the Federal Government (BLM) has just given the middle finger to the state of Arizona, the residents, claim owners and folks who like to use these roads and is saying we don't care what you say, that you passed a bill and we are going to ignore a "grant" passed by Congress in 1872 and are proposing to close your roads anyway. So what do the folks in Arizona do? Call the sponsors of HB2175, the bill which was passed telling the BLM they can't close these roads and ask these Congress folks what they are going to do about it. Make them stand up for you again. I would assume these politicians are going to be pretty upset the BLM is ignoring their laws they pass in this great state. Here are the sponsors of HB2175 (the good guys who passed the bill on your behalf), call them today: Rep Mark Finchem District 11 (602) 926-3122 Rep Bob Thorpe District 6 (602) 926-5219 Rep Brenda Barton District 6 (602) 926-4129 Senator Sonny Borelli District 5 (602) 926-5051 Rep Regina Cobb District 5 (602) 926-3126 Rep Vince Leach District 11 (602) 926-3106 Senator Steve Smith District 11 (602) 926-5685 Also as a part of our research, Jere found this statement put out by the Arizona Attorney General in which he reasserts these roads will remain open. It's a great read and goes further than any other state we have ever seen in protecting your public lands and road access. Man do we love this state. https://www.azag.gov/sgo-op…/revised-statute-2477-rights-way So here it is folks. Arizona passed a law saying the roads must be kept open, BLM is thumbing their nose at you and it is now up to you to call these politicians and first of all thank them for passing HR2175, and then tell them to make the BLM back off. There it is.............don't sit there and be silent, CALL. We will absolutely be calling the Attorney General on your behalf and will be calling each and every one of these politicians, we just ask you do the same.
  15. Hi Gary, option C would eliminate one of two motorized route from our claims. We have a third that stops short of the claims and becomes a hiking trail already. The BLM closed the third route to motorized travel around 10 years ago without any notice or public input. I was able to get it re-opened by simply sticking to my guns and pointing out the same parts of the law as I did in my most recent letter, minus the recent ARS dealing with RS 2477. It took some time and effort, and they lied to me at every opportunity, from needing a notice of intent or plan of operation to maintain access to telling me they weren't the ones who placed the boulders in the road, but they did finally agree to move the boulders. Mike Rice and Roy Draper were the two I was dealing with back then. My suspicion is that these new BLM agents know little of theses laws and probably couldn't care less to know about them. I'm with the Roadrunners as well and we also gave input with over 300 members signatures. I read about the State GPAA and a few other groups rallying the troops as well. There are some off-road groups opposing the changes as well. Never count out the silent majority, The roadrunners and several other groups and citizens were able to stop the Agua Fria Nation monument from claiming all the land west of I17 all the way to the Prescott NF a few years back. They would have effectively taken all granted rights of way (and escape routes from the valley) and eliminated mining claims by attrition if they had succeeded. Later...Jim P.
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