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  1. I will disagree here. Right now, on FS land in order for me to carry out my small scale mining operation Nothing, NADA zero paperwork is required wirth the exception of a Dredge permit. If this passes they will want to know evertything period via a notice wich will then require a Plan of Operations and a reclamation bond at a minimum. Hre is copied direct from the FS proposals and you can se for yourself what will now be required. Mind you the FS is currently not approving any P.O.O. at least in CA for small scale miners. While this may seem like it is not much is is really huge. Anyway the comment period is over, but here are some of their proposed changes: Please not the bold (by me)


    Title: Locatable Minerals.

    OMB Number: 0596-0022.

    Expiration Date of Approval: June 30, 2008.

    Type of Request: Extension of a currently approved collection.

    Abstract: This collection of information is necessary to ensure minimal environmental impacts associated with lo-catable mineral operations on National Forest System (NFS) lands to the extent practicable. Forest Service regulations at 36 CFR 228.5 require mining operators, with some exceptions, to notify the authorized Forest Service officer of the intent to conduct a locatable mineral operation on NFS lands by filing a Notice of Intent or Plan of Operations. Title 36 CFR 228.10 requires mining operators to submit a Cessation of Operation when mining operations temporarily cease for other than seasonal closure.

    There is not a required format for the information collection, but all information identified in 36 CFR part 228 must be included. Form FS-2800-5, Plan of Operations for Mining Activities on National Forest System Lands, is available for use by mining operators to simplify this process.

    The information required in a Plan of Operations, detailed in 36 CFR 228.4©, (d), and (e), includes:

    1. The name and legal mailing address of operators (and claimants if they are not the same) and their lessees, as-signs, or designees

    2. A map or sketch showing information sufficient to locate:

    a. The proposed area of operations on the ground,

    b. Existing and/or proposed roads or access routes to be used in connection with the operation as set forth in 36 CFR 228.12 on access, and

    c. The approximate location and size of areas where surface resources will be disturbed

    3. Information sufficient to describe:

    a. The type of operations proposed and how they would be conducted,

    b. The type and standard of existing and proposed roads or access routes,

    c. The means of transportation used or to be used as set forth in 36 CFR 228.12,

    d. The period during which the proposed activity will take place, and

    e. Measures to be taken to meet the requirements for environmental protection in 36 CFR 228.8.

    A Notice of Intent is required, as detailed in 36 CFR 228.4(a)(2), to include information sufficient to identify the area involved, the nature of the proposed operation, the route of access to the area of operations, and the method of transport.

    A Cessation of Operations is required, as detailed in 36 CFR 228.10, to include verification of intent to maintain structures, equipment, and other facilities, expected reopening date, and an estimate of extended durations of operations.

    These collections of information are crucial to protecting surface resources, including plants, animals, and their habitat, as well as public safety on NFS lands. The authorized Forest Service official will use the collected information to ensure that the exploration, development, and production of mineral resources are conducted in an environmentally sensitive manner that these mineral operations are integrated with the planning and management of other resources using the principles of ecosystem management and that lands disturbed by mineral operations are reclaimed using the best scientific knowledge and returned to other productive uses. Without this information, the Forest Service would not comply with Federal Regulations and locatable mineral operations could result in undue damage to surface resources.

    Estimate of Annual Burden: 12 hours (10 hours--Plans of Operation 1 hour--Notice of Intent 1 hour--Cessation of Operations).

    Type of Respondents: Mining operators.

    Estimated Annual Number of Respondents: 3,255 (750--Plans of Operations 2,500--Notices of Intent 5--Cessation of Operations).

    Estimated Annual Number of Responses per Respondent: 1.

    Estimated Total Annual Burden on Respondents: 10,005 hours (10 hours x 750 Plans of Operations = 7,500 1 hour x 2,500 Notices of Intent = 2,500 1 hour x 5 Cessation of Operations = 5 7,500 + 2,500 + 5 = 10,005).

    Comment is invited on: (1) Whether this collection of information is necessary for the stated purposes and the proper performance of the functions of the Agency, including whether the information will have practical or scientific utility (2) the accuracy of the Agency's estimate of the burden of the collection of information, including the validity of the methodology and *69644 assumptions used (3) ways to enhance the quality, utility, and clarity of the informa-tion to be collected and (4) ways to minimize the burden of the collection of information on respondents, including the use of automated, electronic, mechanical, or other technological collection techniques or other forms of information technology.

    All comments received in response to this notice, including names and addresses when provided, will be a matter of public record. Comments will be summarized and included in the request for Office of Management and Budget ap-proval.

    Dated: November 26, 2007.

    Gloria Manning,

    Associate Deputy Chief, National Forest System.

    FR Doc. E7-23834 Filed 12-7-07 8:45 am

    Here also for your information is an agrument about proposed changes that would also require a NOI just to camp longer than 14 days, mind you just leaving any kind of equipment constitutes occupancy. Pretty much would limit my mining to 14 days per 60 days in any one ranger district.


    Here is also an agrument by PLP as to why the proposed changes are unconstitutional.


  2. Today is a day to remember our Vets. I am flying the TLS Flag today. I thank all our Vets that made this possible. Especially the Special Forces Soldiers that took on the Taliban with a thousand to one odds, JayRay for his service and for making this flag available and to all those Vets that are right now as I post this..in harms way. And most of all, to l those that have given all since the Revolutionary War to the present.


  3. Everyone needs to stop whining here and put that effort into sending in your comment about how this will effectivly ruin your constitutional rights. No mor life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.....................This is the most serious threat so far in our continual battle and the Forest Circus wants to ban all of us from what we love.......... Here is where you can send comments by snail mail or fax or email, make sure you referance 36CFR228;

    Forest Service


    Minerals and Geology Management (MGM)

    Staff (2810)

    Mail Stop 1126

    Washington, DC 20250-1125


    Fax No.: (703) 605-1575

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