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Rock and Mineral Forum Guidelines

There are just a few rules here and yup I do enforce them and keep an eye on things as best I can. Here are a few guidelines I'd like you to follow if you will be participating here. This forum is not moderated as heavily as the other sections so please do not enter or open a topic if you think you will be offended. If you are at least respond like an adult or we will remove your post as soon as brought to our attention.

Vulgar and abusive language is not welcome here! Heck a cuss word to get a point across is not so bad, but I think you know what I mean.

I will not host public arguments and pissing matches between individuals here so please just don't do it. When it happens the post most times will simply vanish into cyber space.

Political or Religious posts belong in "Off Topic" but surly you can find other forums that host those discussions if it is your thing, I don't think anyone cares if you are Conservative or Liberal when we are out hunting gold nuggets.

You may not use this forum to advertise any other dealer, store, or product without written permission by owner at any time. Used items are allowed in the classified section.

This forum is not responsible for anything said by it's members at any time. This is a public forum and will remain so and although I can and will occasionally zap "bad content" I don't do it often and so far have never permanently banned a person. Also opinions expressed here do not always represent the opinion of the forum's owner!

Guests are welcome to browse the forum and use the information provided by registered members, but you can not post yourself until you are a registered member.

That is pretty much it my fellow Nugget Shooters so enjoy the forum, keep it clean and play nice.


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    • TO become a member, you can click the top right of the page https://nuggetshooter.ipbhost.com/.  I’m not sure there’s claims for prospecting.  That helps Bill keep the lights on for this page.   TheRe’s many different clubs,  The GPAA is nationally, and the website is here: https://www.goldprospectors.org/.  Depending on your state, there’s others available.  ROadrunners is one for Arizona, https://www.roadrunnergold.com/.  There’s other local ones, like Big Bug Prospecting club for the Bradshaw mountains in AZ: http://www.bigbugminingdistrict.com/home.html.
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    • You have stated this opinion (belief?) before Bob. United States law says the opposite as I already demonstrated in the linked Federal Law USC 16 above. The Fish and Wildlife Service regulations that control the administration of National Wildlife Refuges also disagree with your belief. 50 CFR § 32.1 Opening of wildlife refuge areas to hunting. The opening of a wildlife refuge area to hunting will be dependent upon the provisions of law applicable to the area and upon a determination by the Secretary that the opening of the area to the hunting of migratory game birds, upland game, or big game will be compatible with the principles of sound wildlife management and will other-wise be in the public interest. The opening or closing of wildlife refuge areas to hunting shall be in accordance with the rulemaking requirements of the Administrative Procedure Act (5 U.S.C. 553)   If the Secretary of Interior doesn't make a determination to be open to hunting/fishing (after notice and public comment periods) it's not going to happen. If the Secretary of Interior doesn't make a determination to be closed to hunting/fishing (after notice and public comment periods) it's not going to happen. That's the law and the regulation.   Of course each National Wildlife Reserve gets to add comments or requests just as the public and State/local governments do if they want during the required comment period before it becomes a regulation. In the end though it's the Secretary of Interior's determination that makes it happen no matter what comments or suggestions are received. The whole purpose of the Administrative Procedures Act (APA) is to create an open process with public input thus eliminating overreach and hidden agendas by local agency managers. Generally the whole notice/comment/determination process required by the Administrative Procedure Act (law) takes the better part of a year and often as long as several years. After the notice, comment and final Secretary determination is all finished the whole shebang is printed under 50 CFR regulations to inform the public that certain types of game/methods of hunting/fishing will be allowed at certain times and in certain places. You can see the individual rules/regs/times/game/places determined by the Secretary printed there. For example here is the current published determination of the Secretary regarding big game hunting regulations for the Bosque del Apache National Wildlife Refuge. From the Fish and Wildlife Code of Federal Regulations 50 CFR § 32.50. As you can see it covers what can be hunted, where it can be hunted, how it can be hunted and when it can be hunted. We allow hunting of mule deer, javelina, oryx, and bearded Rio Grande turkey on designated areas of the refuge in accordance with State regulations subject to the following conditions: 1. Refer to the refuge map for designated areas. (linked to in my previous post) 2. Hunting hours are from 1/2 hour before legal sunrise to 1/2 after legal sunset. 3. We allow the use of dogs when hunting. 4. Hunting on the eastside of the Rio Grande is by foot or horseback only. 5. We allow oryx hunting from the east bank of the Rio Grande and east to the refuge boundary. We will allow hunters possessing a valid State special off-range permit to hunt oryx on the refuge during the concurrent State deer season. 6. We allow incidental take of feral hog by those legally licensed for, and participating in, other big game hunting activities. You may take feral hog only with a method allowed within each refuge hunt unit. We prohibit the use of dogs for this activity. (mmmmm Oryx are good eating!  As I'm sure you know Bob the Bosque has been fighting an Oryx infestation for many years and in the past has opened up the entire Reserve to off-season Oryx hunting permits to try to eradicate the herds.) If there is to be a material change in the published Fish and Wildlife 50 CFR regulations the entire notice, comment and determination process has to take place all over again. That process has already been completed for the Trump administration opening of refuges for hunting but it's still just beginning the process for the Biden Administration opening of more refuges to hunting. I hope that clears things up for those who may be confused.
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