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Morlock thanks for the post but I have to say there are several things in it I disagree with.
To start with I strongly disagree with this statement. "the stars are not foretelling our doom!"
They are.
We are watching stars explode all around us. and then there are the asteroids, wiping out entire planets and moons! asteroids don't stay in their orbit, they randomly get knocked out. " Random chaos is normal" I've been saying that for years.,
We already know that stars have a life-cycle. they burn out ,explode or get ripped apart as they are sucked into black holes. this would guarantee in our demise or reformation. we are really a fragile life form. we are already confident we may go the way of the dinosaurs if we don't do something about it soon. and that in itself proves that intelligent life can form,evolve enough to leave its own planet or become extinguished in a reasonably short amount of space time. I'm confident history will repeat itself.
"Round and round"
Do I think we are unique in the universe as the only intelligent life form?, No!
Many of the theories in that post are based on 1960's technology or older.
We all know how far we have come from the sixties and as we know, theories based on old technology get proven wrong all the time.
We now know after Hubble's straw hole view of deep space that there are millions of galaxies out there and more than likely billions if not trillions of stars with planets rotating around in them.
We also now know that there are different types of galaxies. some similar to ours and many that are not. we don't even have a clue as to what types of astrophysics are going on in them.
The odds that there are other galaxies with planets out there with the similar elements in them and a similar distance from its star as ours, are good in my opinion.
I really think the only thing keeping us apart from other life forms is the distance,random chaos and "time", at least as we understand time at present. based primarily on our own existence and the rotation of the planets in our solar system. rather than space time.
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Well, Bob;

it is hard enough to live on Earth-time...we would need much longer lives and broader view to live on Universe-time...

I am 68 and very well remember the scientists screaming there could not be other planets or life elsewhere...all that has changed.

The fiction of today is tomorrows facts...I hope this post fits in, I am not going to read 34 pages to find out...

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I guess I'm a little late posting to this thread to talk about "Earth wobble." A number of years ago I ran into a novel by Allan W. Eckert titled "The HAB Theory". I thoroughly enjoyed it and remember that I was quite impressed with the accuracy of the science.

I thought you might enjoy some "different" reading if you can locate a copy.

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On 6/25/2018 at 10:32 AM, fredmason said:

Well, Bob;

it is hard enough to live on Earth-time...we would need much longer lives and broader view to live on Universe-time...

I am 68 and very well remember the scientists screaming there could not be other planets or life elsewhere...all that has changed.

The fiction of today is tomorrows facts...I hope this post fits in, I am not going to read 34 pages to find out...

fred

fred
I always try and look at the big picture. I think it has helped me in nugget hunting as well and I agree with you. Times are a changing fast. Technology is changing in leaps and bounds. we are able to read some types of minerals on planets, asteroids and on earth with remote sensing from satellites. now that's what I call a long range metal detector. its only a matter time and we will be doing beeping fly-by's. I'm thinking probably the asteroid belt. easier to recover and tow them home with robotic satellites, no humans necessary. Its a lot harder to fly humans through space than satellites. I'm still waiting for Minelab to come out with a detector that not only finds them,it digs the holes too. :thumbsupanim
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On 6/25/2018 at 12:21 PM, Roger P said:

I guess I'm a little late posting to this thread to talk about "Earth wobble." A number of years ago I ran into a novel by Allan W. Eckert titled "The HAB Theory". I thoroughly enjoyed it and remember that I was quite impressed with the accuracy of the science.

I thought you might enjoy some "different" reading if you can locate a copy.

Roger P.

 

 

 

 

Roger
I haven't read the book. I did some checking and Its a little bit sci-fi and I can get it. I'll take a look at it. I'm always open to new ideas. Thanks
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I agree Morlock
But I'm not as subtle as Carl Sagan.
Where already well on our way to morphing into robots. we are right on the edge of being able to derive and store the information directly from our brains into a digital world. I would think that any alien interstellar life forms or robots would be searching for minerals or elements to survive and replicate and what they are looking for may not even exist on earth. they may not even require eating like humans do. so we may be basically nothing but parasites to them. with our planet and the things that also live on it being (our host). Enough to make you want to go Vegan, but in technical terms even if we did we may still be a parasite to the earth from their point of view. maybe they fear us eating or annihilating them over a minor differences of opinion or unfounded fears. we probably have the ability to do it now with weapons of self destruction. It wasn't that long ago we where eating and enslaving each other. maybe they dont want to jump into this mess we call civilization just yet. when you stop and think about it, it doesn't sound like we are (as a whole)very intelligent yet, does it.
but
Based on how far some of us have progressed in the last 100 years, just Imagine how far we could be ahead in another 200 years as compared to the last 2000.
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On 6/28/2018 at 5:23 PM, AzNuggetBob said:

Based on how far some of us have progressed in the last 100 years, just Imagine how far we could be ahead in another 200 years as compared to the last 2000.
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Our progress has been phenomenal and it continues to build speed. I stood in line at a computer store in 1995 to MS Windows 95 when it first came out and it was at that point when I was first able to access the internet. There was nothing on the internet at that point, but the groundwork had been laid. The opportunity was there. Advances in productivity followed along with the sharing of information. Technology in all forms began to advance at a faster and faster pace. Gold continued to disappear at a faster and faster pace as internet prospecting forums opened up (Thank you Bill Southern!) and advances in metal detectors enabled miners to be more productive.  
There is no doubt that space is the new frontier, and about the only thing that could stop progress here on Earth is an asteroid. Is there intelligent life on other planets that is similar to humans? At the rate we are going there will be answers very soon and it won't be long and we will have the ability to send humans to habitable planets inside or outside our solar system.

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