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  1. Bedrock Bob

    Meteroite in situ

    These are fecolites from Uranus coming in at cosmic velocity! Probably lunars with iron sulphide inclusions and partial fusion crust!
  2. Bedrock Bob

    Bill Southern Cameo steals new GPAA VID!

    You hit the nail on the head Bill. For a greenhorn the GPAA is the first logical step. The young cuernoverdes that want to be gold miners join the GPAA just long enough to figure out how to separate gold from dirt. Then they look over the hill at some spot and decide for themselves whether they are going to ask permission or forgiveness. By the time their new GPAA hat is sweaty they are in another placer around the campfire with someone more experienced. The next thing you know they are living in a sweaty little camper eating Bush's Beans and lunch meat. They see little specks of yellow metal when they close their eyes. Suddenly they wake up. 30 years has gone by and they are us! But not everyone takes prospecting so seriously. Sometimes it is more than prospecting and access to a spot. A lot of folks like the fellowship of local GPAA clubs and outings. Lots of older guys that don't get around too good, lots of families that like outdoor activities. What a great crowd! I used to take the El Paso GPAA on outings way back in the day. I had claims in Hillsboro where I offered weekend gold outings and several people from that club were regulars. As a group we hit the Caballos often and found lots of good gold. There were always a dozen excited people and everyone enjoyed themselves. I helped their founder locate the claims in Orogrande and had a ball out there too! It is easy to be critical of the GPAA sometimes. And it is often well founded. But I always had a lot of fun with the GPAA crowd around here.
  3. Bedrock Bob

    Found a interesting stone

    Just a note about that XRF... Environmental testing outfits generally have XRF capabilities for a reasonable cost. They do a lot of analysis on construction materials for industry. They shoot tiles, residue from industrial processes, cleanup and abatement monitoring, highway accidents, crime scenes, etc. etc. XRF analysis of materials is a fairly common step in any facilities demolition. Materials testing outfits that provide XRF analysis are fairly common in most areas. Around Southern New Mexico and West Texas there are plenty of guys that offer XRF analysis. Most use full spectrum equipment. I use an environmental consulting company out of Sunland Park, New Mexico. I can get a full spectrum XRF analysis for $50 on the spot. A single shot like nickel is $10. I must take the specimen to the guys office when it is convenient for him and it takes him about fifteen seconds. Otherwise he charges a consultation and trip fee. He hands me a printed readout and can offer charts and graphs at additional cost. You can usually find one of these companies by searching for "Environmental Consultants" or "Construction Materials Testing". Every Hazardous Materials Cleanup outfit or abatement contractor has access to XRF. So if you look in that direction you will find professional, competitive XRF services near you.
  4. Bedrock Bob

    Meteroite in situ

    Jimale - This rock obviously came outta Uranus at cosmic speeds. I will pretend it is real and discuss it with you! It'll be a hoot! Does it have iron sulfide inclusions? Are they soft? Are those vessicles and quartz inclusions or are you just happy to see me? I will offer 50 Dinar per kilo! Final offer. Otherwise the Bedouins can sell it to the middleman. All the best, Bedrock Bob
  5. Bedrock Bob

    Meteroite in situ

    Actually it is a chunk of basalt laid in THREE places on the ground and photographed. This "in-situ" fecolite clearly has three different backdrops.
  6. Bedrock Bob

    Found a interesting stone

    Clay, I am going bowfishing for a few days and I am going to bed now. Leve Freckles alone while I am gone. Focus on the differing formulations of thermite and try to keep it all nailed down around the edges. If things get freaky just list all of the individual occurrences of telluric iron and graph their distance from Cape Cod. Ill be back in a few days and we can discuss some other rock.
  7. Bedrock Bob

    Found a interesting stone

    Nobody ever liked Disko and that aint telluric iron. We can fantasize and speculate but the job at hand is identifying Freckles. Stop trying to force your expectations on her! I don't know what "micron mixed thermite" is but most brands of incendiary welds have published their weld metal profiles. It would be very easy to compare XRF profiles with the published info just like comparing a meteorite profile. Once again I cant post a link but Cadweld has theirs available on the internet. You would think most formulas would be very similar and the presence of combustion products and flux material in the metal would tell the tale. Yes it could be refractory clay from a weld mold that went south. That may explain why Freckles wound up as a blob of slag rolling around in the hold of a ship instead of a piece of basalt containing telluric iron in the Labrador Trough or a meteorite coming straight outta Uranus at cosmic speeds. Whatever that spot is proves that Freckles is not a fan of Disko and is not an illegal alien. We need to stop pretending that Freckles is someone else and accept her for who she is... A sweet little ball of industrial metal with a beauty mark.
  8. Bedrock Bob

    Found a interesting stone

    It is an awesome object. IMHO every bit as beautiful as any meteorite. It created discussion and opened minds. And it has a wonderful beauty mark. You will always wonder at this spotted rascal. If someone told you it was definitely a meteorite you would be satisfied and stop wondering about it. That would not be half as much fun as this one. I collect rocks with unique shapes. I am drawn to hematite and sandstone concretions and any other object that is naturally sculpted. This one has a magnificent shape that screams motion. It has been in motion and is still dizzy from all of it. Now it is breaking the internet with the flecks and the freckles and the silky smooth skin. What a powerful object! I like it! I will offer you 50 dinar per kilo for the stone. If you ever decide to sell it just contact me. Otherwise you can tell folks that it is a valuable stone and a famous prospector tried to buy it but you refused. That means no one really knows how much the spotted one is worth but it is a hell of a lot more than 50 dinar per kilo. So at least we know that now. I have truly enjoyed looking at this little freckled rock and discussing it with you. Thanks for posting it!
  9. Bedrock Bob

    Found a interesting stone

    Thanks Fred! I missed your intelligent and logical banter as well. It is always a pleasure! This is the same old road we travel every single time we see metal flecks in a matrix. There are only three options and two are very rare and highly unlikely. Even if we find nickel we have not eliminated any options. Most artifacts are going to have nickel. We can only eliminate the possibility of a meteorite if we don't have nickel. So it is quite the conundrum. That red dot and the composition of the matrix will tell more about the provenance of this item than the presence (or not) of nickel IMHO. I think that dot is the ceramic flux on one of those high tech incendiary weld connections. No matter what this thing is or isn't I think we can easily rule out anything from space or from the earth. We can rule out meteorites with that funky red dot. We can rule out earth with those groovy metal flakes. That leaves us with a far out artifact. Just exactly where we have always wound up every time we have ever gone down this road. The shape and finish indicates tumbling by a mechanical and probably not natural means. A sandy beach does not provide enough weathering and abrasion to keep iron flecks bright on the surface in a coastal environment. The shape and finish strongly suggest that this item has been mechanically tumbled and the unoxidized flecks suggest that it was fairly recent. That puts a little more distance between this spotted rascal and a space rock. And supports the theory it is an artifact. IMHO the only exercise here is to find out what kind of slag it is and what it was rolling around in that shaped and smoothed it. At least that is where my observation and logic is taking me. I honestly do not see any indication that it could be any other way. I don't see where streak, fracture, hardness or any other test (besides bulk density) would offer any useful info on identifying this rock. With the meager information we have we can rule out almost every other possibility. Looking for silica, ceramics, products of combustion and other metals specific to welding processes would be the shortest route to identification. Using the XRF you could probably prove it is slag a lot easier than you could prove it was not a meteorite. Use that XRF to look for stuff that slag has and meteorites don't and I bet it is a short trip. Not trying to be a huge dick and monopolize the conversation. Just trying to spur a little thought on the processes of identification. Hopefully it is not to heavy for all you hip and groovy cats.
  10. Bedrock Bob

    Found a interesting stone

    Clay, I respectfully disagree and I would like to explain why. I think we can safely rule out sedimentary metamorphic because of the metal flecks. Nor do I see it as telluric iron in basalt simply because of the astronomical odds of it being telluric iron. (That is the very same reasoning that makes it safe to say it is not a meteorite!) That narrows the probability way down from "anyone's guess" and completely eliminates Venusian Jellybeans.There is but one possibility left and it is by far the most likely... nearly 100%! The overwhelming odds are that this object is an artifact of some kind. Most likely a product of industry in the Cape Cod area. By every indication (composition, shape and finish) it is man made. Running with those assumptions and knowing a bit about industry I would say it is some sort of metallic slag. Being familiar with thermite welds I recognize this material as very similar. Thus my deduction. I would bet I am damned close. I am aware that sedimentary metamorphic rocks weather unevenly as well as the only telluric iron on the planet being in Greenland. I did not consider either to be a determining factor in my identification. I did not see these facts as relevant to the identification at all. That is just my opinion and the logic behind why I think that. I am not trying to argue with you just pointing out our completely different approaches to problem solving and identification. How two guys using the same set of facts and familiar with the same processes can come to two radically different conclusions. And after all the process of identification is what we are posting about here, right? Thanks for the discussion Clay!
  11. Bedrock Bob

    Found a interesting stone

    Sorry Clay. I didn't realize you were having a party nor was I aware I pooped on it. Just keepin' it real in a world where there is way too much BS. The only thing I am sure of is that this rock wont cause burns or blindness. I guess my reply was a bit instinctive. Sorry if I spoiled your fun. Do you have any speculation on how metal flakes got into the matrix like that? What forces shaped that stone and resulted in the surface finish? Any solutions or insights into what this stone may be? Good to be back Clay!
  12. Bedrock Bob

    Found a interesting stone

    It would be the remnants of a thermite weld Clay. I am obviously not suggesting that it is thermite powder. Thermite is a very common weld and the remnants of these welds are in no way flammable. They are in many cases however, dead ringers for a meteorite wrong. I cant post the link but just google thermite welding or Cadweld. It will give you a clear idea of what I am talking about.
  13. Bedrock Bob

    Found a interesting stone

    A very interesting find and some great photos! I have no idea what that is. It looks like it has been mechanically tumbled. It also looks like it has a bit of rainbow patina in the matrix. Is that just the photo or does the matrix seem semi metallic or sub metallic? It looks rather porous on the surface... would you agree? My wild guess is a thermite slug that tumbled around in a piece of machinery or a boat. Lots of strange blobs of thermite around boats and heavy construction. It has a dark, brassy matrix and iron flecks. It often has other colored inclusions of flux, similar to that red dot. A thermite slug would not have the specific gravity to be a meteorite. If I were investigating this rock I would consider specific gravity very important based on what I see in the photos. Just my two cents and I am not sure my opinion is worth that much.
  14. Bedrock Bob

    Your opinion welcomed

    Thanks Jeff! Leaverite is a terrestrial rock. The term "fecolite" is the proper term for space rocks that turn out to be sh!t. Some have partial fusion crust and others have soft iron sulphide inclusions. Many are obviously volcanic extrusives that look exactly like unetched iron "meteroites". Any stone with a corner broken off is also classified as a fecolite. They are often oriented with the blunt end forward and tapered at the rear due to the fact that fecolites come straight outta Uranus at cosmic speeds. The rocks in this post are genuine fecolites. A wise investor would snap them up for their collection before the Bedouins get their hands on them and sell them to the middlemen.
  15. Bedrock Bob

    Your opinion welcomed

    In an area where terrestrial rocks are hardly found you are batting a thousand. Congrats! An audience is what you desired and exactly what you got. So what more do you want? If you are searching for someone who actually thinks these are meteorites you probably need to keep looking. Otherwise we can pretend some more. I am down with whatever game you want to play.